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Henkjan

I didn't say I don't believe. I believe in myself. i said SOME people, not you. and everyone believes in himself, you only have to look in the mirror. some people just think there is something greater, and they might want to know something about it. and i'm free to tell my believe and how it has ch...

Henkjan

I didn't say I don't believe. I believe in myself. i said SOME people, not you. and everyone believes in himself, you only have to look in the mirror. some people just think there is something greater, and they might want to know something about it. and i'm free to tell my believe and how it has ch...

Henkjan

some people don't have a belief, i'm just spreadin the word, nothing more. if i see someone with a diffrend riligion, i could talk to him about what the bible says, and what it has done in my life. and i won't do anything more then that. he can tell me the same, it won't bother me. but let me say th...

Henkjan

people give freely, they are not forced to do anything.
the church i go to we drink coffee afterwords.
and we eat there alsow. and that costs money too. preachers need to live on something too. the church has to pay that alsow.

Henkjan

yeah those were the bad churches. it was in the time the bible was only written in ONE language. the church said things like if you don't do what we say you will go to hell etc etc etc. and people were scared and believed it. then came some man who disagread with it and he translated it to german.. ...

Henkjan

yeah the church does need monet alsow (duh)
but they give some away to good things.

about that priests in africa thing, i dunno.

Henkjan

people think church wants power, but church gives alot of money to good things. for people in war and stuff..

Henkjan

i must be an idiot cause it's hard to believe what religion has done to people, and what it has done to me.

Henkjan

me too.
not many religious people on this forum.

Henkjan

Hm, I think the devil always gave good things. God is just boring. but with the devil you will be when you die, and you know where he is. if you follow the right path in this life, you will go to heaven when you leave this place. this life is the journey to what comes after this. in this life you h...

Henkjan

What if I say 'god is evil', does that affect you? no it wouldnd. God is good. the Devil is evil. he's the one doing all the the bad things to you. the Devil used to be an angel. but then he wanted God's power and he turned evil. you can't understand that God gave his son to die for you so that you...

Henkjan

You keep saying "He has done soO much for me" and "Give it a try" but maybe Maybe he hasn't done anything for us, maybe he has done nothing but bad things? think about it, he might have given you all you need and life, but what has he done to for example me? I believe that he ha...

Henkjan

well, if that's what you think. but it's not like that at all. i'm not the only person on earth that believes in god. sometimes i go to church and it is filled with 3000 people. you think all those people are poor people who have a bad life? i know plenty of people that are rich and go to church and...

Henkjan

tijsjoris wrote:How do you conclude that I am afraid of life out of what I said?
I don't get why I should be afraid of life when I got more ups than downs.

well maybe you don't get any downs because you don't whant to do things that may have downs or have things that may have downs or whatever

Henkjan

who said i was affraid? i have a girlfriend.. and we both are having a hard time.
so yes i can't make it without God. who cares.
i'm not bothering anyone.
and if i'm with God my whole life, then so be it. i want nothing more then that

Henkjan

tijsjoris wrote:Well, for me there are more ups than downs really. If for a lot of people this is not true, than it must be the fault of religion...

maybe you are affraid of life.

Henkjan

what i can't explain is that i feel god alsow, i feel him inside me. when i go to church, when i listen to religious music.. i can feel it in my spine. it's a feeling you can't discribe.. happyness.. thankfull.. Can you accept that other people can get that similar feeling of happiness from other t...

Henkjan

religion doesn't hurt anyone.
there was a time i saw no meaning in life.
i have to go eat first cause i just woke up.
memphis, well said

Henkjan

yeah. they do. but i'm not a preacher.
i'm a 16 year old boy who has to think about his future, but knows his future is allright with god.
i am not a very bright person. but i know i will get a job and that everything will be allright

Henkjan

maybe he would not do it. but i am doing what he wants me to do. i am spreading the word of god. but.. cmon. if Jesus came here to earth and he did some mirracle that is impossible for humans then he wouldnd need to do this. people would believe him. but if Jesus came on earth and did no miracle, he...

Henkjan

If you really want to spread the word of god, why didn't you copy paste the whole bible in this topic? Perhaps you could supply me with a bible? why do you think there are preachers? the bible is hard to read if you have not read it for a long time. when i first read the bible i just read it.... bu...

Henkjan

jaytea wrote:no, youre saying the same thing over and over because you havent studied christianity, you appear to have little experience with life, and have nothing else to say

conclude what you want, it's making no diffrence.. nomatter what you say

Henkjan

bible's are cheap..
they are not hard to find. probably in a book store or something..

Henkjan

i'm saying the same things over again because you ask me questions that all have the same answer.
i just wanna do what Jesus would do..

Henkjan

you can call me anything you like. it doesn't make me warm or cold.

Henkjan

i'm not saying this because i wanna atack people. i am saying this because it's my mission to do this. this is what God wants from me.
this is what Jezus would do.

Henkjan

you won't believe in god till you get proved that he exists. and i will allways believe in god cause no one can prove he doesn't. people believe it, not just because of the story. because they see a happyness in people that they want alsow. happyness you can ony get from God. if you want prove that ...

Henkjan

yeah, that's what he wants.
i don't smoke weed, i can be happy and have fun without it.

Henkjan

Henkjan, there's a major difference between you and me. You have put your faith in a god. A god that leads you, advises you and will bring salvation. That's a pretty safe world. Whatever happens to you, it doesn't mind, because you have dedicated yourself to god. You lead your life with advise of g...

Henkjan

smoking weed and stuff like that is a sin Now you just went too far. Go and ask your God why he did put these plants in nature, tell me? If you could just bring back here one scientific truth about the possible harm of a wise use of natural entheogenic substances (like Salvia divinorum), then let m...

Henkjan

if you don't want to hear what i say, then don't. if you are interested then read on. it's all your own choice.

Henkjan

if you believe in god, then will you not believe his word?

Henkjan

you do have to believe in god and his son and that he gave his life for your sin to get into heaven. if you don't believe in god, you won't go to heaven. it is written in the bible.. can you show me where paules wrote that? i will say again: if you are not with god, then you are with the devil. it's...

Henkjan

then how can i explain.. the way he helps me? what i ask him.. he gives me. I CANNOT SAY HE DIDN'T!!!!!!! i must believe. everything i asked him he gave me. and i am not talking about money or anything. i am rich in love.. i am rich in god's love. i am rich in my love for other people.. i just want ...

Henkjan

it's the truth.

Henkjan

NOTHING. not after i truly got the holy spirit. when you say yes to God, your old life get barried. and your new life will be with God. then.. you want nothing more then to do what the god wants you to do. but we are humans.. god will not hate you if you sin. that's why he gave his son to die for yo...

Henkjan

hehe no i'm not

i'm just someone who played elma and desided to spread the word of god on the internet.

Henkjan

i'm a christian, tell me, that i can't go to the bios with my girlfriend. that i can't have fun without drinking bear. that i have to have sex befor i get married. i am the most fun person of my school. people like me. but do YOU like you? do you feel you have chosen a path that you truly believe? ...

Henkjan

SveinR wrote:What's interesting is that it can be read, from some of Paulus's writings, that you don't even need to believe to reach salvation and get into heaven. That simply all human beings will achieve salvation because of what Jesus did.

yeah if you believe in him. and if you ask him to forgive your sins.

Henkjan

i think this: in everyones life there will be a moment that he will be touched by god. if you then say no, he will say no when you die. well atleast you can't say that you never heard anything of god. but still my point is. (for all the people that think i'm boring and live a terrible life with rule...

Henkjan

if you follow the narrow way with god, you will folow the right way.

Henkjan

being a good person doesn't get you in heaven. that's what the bible says. if you don't believe in god and in Jezus and that he give his live for you, you won't go to heaven. if you truly believe this then there is a place for you. WHEN you truly believe this, your life will change. EDIT: and if you...

Henkjan

nothing.
but i don't have to do it for him.
he died for me so my sins could be forgiven.

Henkjan

if god would ask me, i would do it.
if Jezus came to earth and asked me to do for him what he did for me
i would do it.

Henkjan

i'm a christian, tell me, that i can't go to the bios with my girlfriend. that i can't have fun without drinking bear. that i have to have sex befor i get married.
i am the most fun person of my school. people like me.

Henkjan

Henkjan

no... you are a sinner when you have sex with a male when you are a male yourself.

Henkjan

niN wrote:why would they kill you?
and are You against homosexualls just because the bible is?

no, i'm not.

Henkjan

i'm not saying i can't live with it

Henkjan

yes the bible is against homosexuals.
the diffrence is, if i go to pakistan and say: i'm a christian!
i will be dead.
when a moslim tells me that he's a moslim, i won't hurt him.

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