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PostPosted: 26 May 2011, 00:23 
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Target list is not in wr page anymore and couldn't find it anywhere. Where can I find it?


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Target list is not in wr page anymore and couldn't find it anywhere. Where can I find it?


I've always been looking here http://www.elmasite.com/kingtimes,action-targets,levelpack-0.htm

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Target list is not in wr page anymore and couldn't find it anywhere. Where can I find it?


I've always been looking here http://www.elmasite.com/kingtimes,action-targets,levelpack-0.htm


Ok, thanks.


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I recommend this awesome program for checking target times. http://up.k10x.net/umipfvarsguku/STATS_ ... _Final.EXE

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It's cool indeed :)


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2 WC
27 Pro
25 Good


Freefall: Good -> Pro
Animal Farm: OK -> Pro last ok

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7 Pro
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PostPosted: 7 Aug 2011, 12:32 
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1 world class
10 good
34 ok
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shitty :(

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Lukazz wrote:
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7 Pro
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PostPosted: 9 Aug 2011, 01:53 
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Some of these (probably most) target times could use an update, or maybe I'm just stupid


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These are very bad target lists indeed, you are not stupid.
I agree with what mila once said, world top10 equals world class =D
Nah but I haven't followed these for years because they are so much out of date!
I think this: halve your amount of world class times you got from this list and you are about right, the same goes for professional times =)

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Nah but I haven't followed these for years because they are so much out of date!
Same, but it's still fun to have targets to reach. I guess one thing you could use as a target nowadays would be to get above position xx on the EOL table. That would also be easily accessible in EOl so no need for alt-tabbing. That would work well with the idea that WC is top10 in the world. A nab for instance could aim for like top30 or sach (but remind me again, how long are the shift+f5 EOL tables? Do they end at like 20 or 25 or so, or do they display all times?)

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and the noob point of view: some even ok times are very hard, like bowling, fruit in the den, hill legend etc

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John wrote:
WC should in my opinion be times so close to the WR that a little extra hoyling could get you the actual WR. You don't achieve WC by making semigood runs with best styles, you have to hoyl those styles or be lucky and finish with good time early ;o
Some suggestions for WC:

01. 14.07
02. 15.20
03. 17.85
04. 30.00
05. 20.00
06. 31.00
07. 31.00
08. 20.90
09. 55.50
10. 10.90
11. 23.30
12. 20.90
13. 14.20
14. 17.70
15. 53.00
16. 1.24.50
17. 54.30
18. 44.65
19. 36.60
20. 59.00
21. 14.50
22. 39.00
23. 37.00
24. 43.00
25. 24.50
26. 22.20
27. 34.60
28. 50.20
29. 43.70
30. 33.00
31. 1.13.50
32. 42.90
33. 56.50
34. 36.90
35. 2.16.50
36. 58.00
37. 54.50
38. 29.50
39. 39.50
40. 1.23.00
41. 39.00
42. 48.30
43. 56.80
44. 11.60
45. 32.70
46. 53.00
47. 19.50
48. 46.50
49. 38.30
50. 54.00
51. 43.00
52. 24.80
53. 17.25
54. 1.19.00

Some are probably too hard and some are probably too easy according to my definition at top.


45wc, pipe 33.00 is quite lol though. with that logic some levs wc time should be better than wr, like gravity ride 23.00 or something

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I think that the only problem is related to system of target "naming". It is just not flexible, it can't follow time improvements. Yesterday some time was incredible, but new style was invented and every nab now can ride pro or WC...
Maybe targets can be renamed in some way like this:
Beginner - Level 0 (or Stage 0)
OK - Level 1
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Current "World Class" - Level 4
New John's target - Level 5 etc...

This approach has its own disadvantages, but I'm sure that it can be more useful and interesting for everyone)

P.S. sorry for my English 8)


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There's no logic in using any predetermined target times, just look at top100 for each lev and see how good your time is in comparison with others.

If you wanna some targets, here you go:
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Top10: WC
Top20: Pro
Top50: Good
Top100: OK
Worse than Top100: Beg


Anyway it might be a bit hard to check since there's no source where you can see all the times...

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Madness wrote:
There's no logic in using any predetermined target times, just look at top100 for each lev and see how good your time is in comparison with others.

If you wanna some targets, here you go:
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Top10: WC
Top20: Pro
Top50: Good
Top100: OK
Worse than Top100: Beg


Anyway it might be a bit hard to check since there's no source where you can see all the times...


That's top10,20,50 and 100 in eol I guess.

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The times in EOL are just a little fraction, it can't be objective at all. Please don't quote if you're responding to the previous post.

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you kill me with that time in int26

edit: just did wc 24.44. nab end

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edit: just did wc 24.44. nab end


World class is 24.20

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Anyway it might be a bit hard to check since there's no source where you can see all the times...


congarsultsions you have found teh essence of the problem. elastomania community does not have a community website. put yourself in noobs byxors that wants to find about this old cool game he played 6 years ago, he might find moposite. what will he find there? definitely not a word about eol. definitely not a word about anything that makes 99% of the community today.

or maybe it's a good thing we're like a hiding community? do we need more of these björns and sach?

records-wise, ppl could just upload their states on moposites more often, but I for one am pretty lazy doing that if I got my times on eol db already. And then we can discuss about the incredible speed of the eol website

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records-wise, ppl could just upload their states on moposites more often
This should be automatic. And yes, moposite should definitely be updated.

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Out of sheer curiosity, is there generally a lack of interest regarding updating moposite, or are said moderators, webmasters and whatnot simply too busy with irl/other stuff? Are there no suitable people with knowledge of php/html etc that are willing to update records and perhaps do some of the things discussed above and bringing eol statistics onto moposite?

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Kejebra wrote:
Out of sheer curiosity, is there generally a lack of interest regarding updating moposite, or are said moderators, webmasters and whatnot simply too busy with irl/other stuff? Are there no suitable people with knowledge of php/html etc that are willing to update records and perhaps do some of the things discussed above and bringing eol statistics onto moposite?

Sorry for going of topic, just trying to figure shit out, been gone a long time from the scene

Welcome back Thundr =)
Statistics are on beta.elmaonline.net, world records are updated on moposite and moposite has been plenty updated with stuff in the recent half year? and is now only one site (no more paprika).

I don't think EOL stats will be on moposite. Maybe someone else can answer this better anyway ;P
Kopaja has done pretty much I believe

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Kejebra wrote:
Out of sheer curiosity, is there generally a lack of interest regarding updating moposite, or are said moderators, webmasters and whatnot simply too busy with irl/other stuff? Are there no suitable people with knowledge of php/html etc that are willing to update records and perhaps do some of the things discussed above and bringing eol statistics onto moposite?

Sorry for going of topic, just trying to figure shit out, been gone a long time from the scene


A bit of everything probably, but in the end it's more or less up to me. Getting times from eol has been talked about since first day I talked with abula about the new records system, which was released last january with state upload. And since saveload spread it has become a bigger priority (and state upload disabled it seems). I have been focusing on another project lately which is why I haven't done anything about it yet. Anyway this is the wrong topic to discuss this, if you or anyone has any ideas how exactly it should work when copying times from eol to mopo feel free to tell here viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4507&p=206899#p206899

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Thanks Björn :D

Okay I see whats going on now, and I understand what Zweq meant with elma not having a community website, because its spread out over many sites that may be hard to find. But thx for clarifying.

And Pab I'll hoyl that lev later, just wait :D


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Lukazz wrote:
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7 Pro
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Is there any target list for EOL level pack?

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It's a lot of work coming up with reasonable targets at this point. Will be easier after a couple of tables.

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Lukazz wrote:
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Lukazz wrote:
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7 Pro
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6 pro

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Morgan wrote:
38 wc
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no more 'good' target times :beer:

42 wc
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Impossible Lukazz. Gimme some of that motivation juice.

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yea impsy stepping o,o 0 tomorow? ;) can align it with 36tt? :P congrats for the to-date achievements already :)

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yea impsy stepping o,o 0 tomorow? ;) can align it with 36tt? :P congrats for the to-date achievements already :)

yep, it's going to happen together with 36 tt. i'm going for wr syle on hi flyer atm and then i'll go for my last WC time (serpents tale). but this could take a while, i don't like both levs/styles, dont expect anything in the next week or so :P

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Well I feel it's going to be tomorow! ;)

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impsy, read what Lukazz wants to do in order (or you dont know how fu**ing hard it is? :))

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Hi there guys, it's been some time...

IMO, top 100 should be Pro targets, while top 10 (or maybe top 20) should be World Class.

At least until someone with a thorough understanding of most of/all of the internal styles puts in the amount of work Luther and co (I believe) laid down all those years ago... It's no easy task

Until then, I have currently 3 "pros" (13, 28, 31) :wink:

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Hi there guys, it's been some time...

IMO, top 100 should be Pro targets, while top 10 (or maybe top 20) should be World Class.

At least until someone with a thorough understanding of most of/all of the internal styles puts in the amount of work Luther and co (I believe) laid down all those years ago... It's no easy task

Until then, I have currently 3 "pros" (13, 28, 31) :wink:


Hey H8 :D How are you? Been such a long time.

CG no longer exists :(

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Hi H8. :)

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Hi Haruhi and Lukazz, nice to see you're still active here :beer: (you've gotten a pretty sick TT btw Lukazz)

I'm fine, been playing all kinds of games since elma, but I just got back to it to take up where I left...
My big goal is getting in the 39 min club, but I'm gonna get there in my own tempo, pretty rusty by now :blushes:

My main concern is that I've lost my old stat file (luckily found most of my old replays (TT = 41:53) on an ancient team CG site http://www.teamcg.wz.cz/), so I'm gonna start off by improving my time on every single level,
should be quite doable (Warm Up (14.24 -> 14.23) down already :lol: ).

And I've had a lot of fun watching the new styles, especially on Hi Flyer, Ramp Frenzy and Animal Farm, who would've thought TTs ever gonna cross the 36 min border 8O

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MY god that site is old. Lee and Honza both 41mins club ^^

H8 i'll hoyl ints with you a bit, will probably get me a little bit closer to 39tt :D

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Well i made my first target improvement in ages:

Hangman: Professional -> World Class

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Well i made my first target improvement in ages:

Hangman: Professional -> World Class

3 world class times
26 professional times
25 good times


Steep Corner: Good -> Professional
Bumpy Journey: Good -> Professional

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