Hoyling ENIGMA for WR

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 13 Aug 2009, 13:36

Im really trying to get WR in enigma... I have desided to use bounce on my 19.38 record as the hoylable one, but if its not going to be acepted as a real bounce there is no use for me of hoyling it... Thats why i want your appinion if it is a bug bounce or a real bounce... I manage to get that bounce alot, stronger speed and so on...
What do you people think???

My rec is not the greatest speed and i can do it faster up to flower... My backwheel doesn`t shoot to a side like a real bug would

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 13 Aug 2009, 13:56

I think that's less bugy than Stini's wr, though a bit faster. Stini's bounce is strange. Go for WR !

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 13 Aug 2009, 14:07

Thanx

Dont forget to vote

roope · Post by **roope** » 13 Aug 2009, 14:09

Can't vote. But ye, that bounce is ez legit.

ap · Post by ap » 13 Aug 2009, 14:32

you are asking the wrong question.
you should ask: is it buggier than wr bounce?

to answer your question:yes.
to answer my question:dunno,they are both buggy as hell.

anpdad · Post by **anpdad** » 13 Aug 2009, 15:30

Agree with ap, especially on "they are both buggy as hell". And i don't want to see neither this nor stini's bounce on the wr table. Personally, i hate enigma and px's politics about accepting bugbounces, so i really don't know what to suggest here. The only proper way imho is to get a 0,2 faster copy of 47z1934.rec and stop all these bug-not-bug talks. C'mon, you can do it, grant us a relief of nonbuggy table!

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 13 Aug 2009, 15:32

i agree with anp

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 13 Aug 2009, 16:45

just set a speed limit on the end bounce with Smibu's program and.. that's it.

jaytea · Post by **jaytea** » 13 Aug 2009, 17:19

do zweq style and take wr FFS GO

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 13 Aug 2009, 18:01

(do style that zweq did in his rec) i have never invented any stylz to enigma

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 13 Aug 2009, 18:42

Thanx for answering people... But the problem is that its impossible to get a new WR without any kind of bug... Tried many different ways and without bug bounce there is only possible to do around 19.25-26 and that is max... So then i say that enigma WR is max hoyled at 19.16 and its going to stand to the year 2100...

FinMan · Post by **FinMan** » 13 Aug 2009, 18:47

Xiphias wrote:just set a speed limit on the end bounce with Smibu's program and.. that's it.

Maybe better to set speed difference limit before bounce and after the bounce. Quite unfair if your speed is already big.

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 13 Aug 2009, 18:49

I am pretty sure this is not bug at all. Really. But does my opinion count?

Fredrik · Post by **Fredrik** » 13 Aug 2009, 20:32

I think FinMan's idea is the best in this thread so far. And I agree with Bismuth, that rec doesn't look like much of a bug (if my opinion counts).

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 13 Aug 2009, 20:55

nah 19.19-19.21ish is quite possible if can reproduce bounce which i got. then just little more power on the bounce and thats it

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 13 Aug 2009, 22:03

quit bitching about bugs and hoyl the fucking thing

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 24 Aug 2009, 02:06

Well long time since i startet hoyling enigma now so time to set out my top ten for the moment

00:19:16 Thunder
00:19:34 Thunder
00:19:38 Thunder
00:19:51 Thunder
00:19:52 Thunder
00:19:52 Thunder
00:19:52 Thunder
00:19:53 Thunder
00:19:55 Thunder
00:19:55 Thunder

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 24 Aug 2009, 14:46

wow, how bad you must've felt when doing that time ;o

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 24 Aug 2009, 15:41

feel free to upload rec
there is no reason not to, it's not a new style, it's simply 'lucky' run
noone will beat it only because they see your rec

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 24 Aug 2009, 18:09

I succeeded in getting all top10 times under 20, but still haven't got rid of 19.48 ugly bug bounce pr.

Level 47, Enigma:
00:19:48 Flair
00:19:51 Flair
00:19:60 Flair
00:19:72 Flair
00:19:72 Flair
00:19:75 Flair
00:19:76 Flair
00:19:82 Flair
00:19:85 Flair
00:19:95 Flair

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 24 Aug 2009, 18:16

milagros wrote:feel free to upload rec
there is no reason not to, it's not a new style, it's simply 'lucky' run
noone will beat it only because they see your rec

Wrong, I will.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 24 Aug 2009, 19:52

Yeah i was a little pist of at that moment

if i only had press right volt before i had hit flower it would been on 19.15...
Now im trying to press the right volt before flower and that had make me loose a couple of 19.19-19.25...
The bounce im using is so easy that i cant share rec, its the rest that is pretty impsy since it has to be a perfect run and over the killer to the landing... My best time is 19.161 and it drive me crazy

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 25 Aug 2009, 09:11

Thunder, you're a fucking maniac. Just be sure to make it in a week, because these other fuckers are gonna try as hard now.

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 25 Aug 2009, 12:15

What is shit is that Thunder deserves that WR but Zweq can cruise 2 min and get 19.12. I wouldn't find it nice for Thunder if some pro drove 19.1x low in the next week. However, maybe Thunder already has it though. If he does, I believe he will have the decency to keep it secret. Let's see in table 300.

By the way, I feel like Jarkko could add this to his hoyl-levs?

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 25 Aug 2009, 21:06

hmmz.. perhaps.. maybe zweq doesn't control the bounce properly - to make it legal.

Memphis · Post by **Memphis** » 25 Aug 2009, 21:21

zweq already post the time somewhere and I just missed it? I don't care who does it I would just like to see that time beaten. No offence stini. Keep going thunder and zweq if you guys haven't beaten it.

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 25 Aug 2009, 21:49

i have played enigma singleplayer maybe 1hour in the last 5 years so wattefak?

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 25 Aug 2009, 22:28

LAYER

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 25 Aug 2009, 23:09

Memphis wrote:zweq

You could do it.

And for that "no offence stini", he does want that time to go too since it was a bug and he is tired of the "legal or nat" debate over the years, as he told me:

Stini wrote:I don't mind, my elma days are pretty much over and, to be honest, now that I look back, this WR has mostly brough me misery because of constant arguments about its legality. It's not fun to have such controversial WRs, which is one reason I haven't played for the Pipe bounce either even though the style is easier to me than most difficult styles. I'm happy to see that this WR has finally motived someone to play instead of just feeling utterly discouraged, I'm really looking forward to the WR break

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 26 Aug 2009, 14:46

I think stini bounce is one of the best WR in the table... If you look at the run its is so clean and pro... Many other could do the same or even better if they tried to take World record...
Im trying to do a bug bounce like talli rec and so on but i fxxxxxx cant do it... Would like to have a bug rec that is better than 19.16 just to have it but im in need of help???

Else my bounce is almost the same in my 26 best record so waiting to get all togheter in a good run but its so hard...

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 26 Aug 2009, 15:13

actually it's the crappiest ride on the table so I have no idea what you're talking about. it's very hard to lead a wr by 0,1 in a lev shorter than 20 secs but in enigma it happens every 10th ride at least, it's just one damn badly ruined lev

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 26 Aug 2009, 22:37

Yeah the level is one of a cind of the internal once

Strange but fun level...

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 26 Aug 2009, 23:26

this is sach attention whore topic

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 27 Aug 2009, 00:02

i join

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 4 Sep 2009, 14:29

What, Xiphass has more posts than myself?

Hosp · Post by **Hosp** » 13 Sep 2009, 01:02

That's just a normal bounce. o.o I do that all the time.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 13 Sep 2009, 11:34

holy crap, youre the best kuski in the world

time? 19.10?

FinMan · Post by **FinMan** » 13 Sep 2009, 14:23

Recs or didnt happen, Thorze.

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 13 Sep 2009, 14:50

Thorze wrote:That's just a normal bounce. o.o I do that all the time.

That's why you have 1:20,80 on Enigma ?! rofl

Is it a bugbounce