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 Post subject: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 21 Mar 2015, 21:31 
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Hi, new site: http://www.recsource.tv.

This tries to be/become the youtube of replays. It isn't complete but oke to start using.

Features:
  • login/register
  • upload replay
  • upload level if the script can't find it in eol db
  • comment replay
  • rate replay
  • replay view count
  • replay information: length/kuski/description
  • new replays list
  • your uploaded replays list
  • max's awesome replay player

Bugs:
  • when you register, the page redirects you to front page but you still need to login
  • multi replays don't work as expected (max)
  • when you download a level a proper filename is not given
  • `remember me` in login does not work

To-do:
  • most-watched/popular/best-rated replays lists
  • edit/delete own replays
  • edit/delete own comments (?)
  • timed comments / youtube style (max)
  • playlists
  • replay tagging
  • merge two or more replays
  • user page (?)
  • search
  • download replay link
  • player controls: seekbar/pause/zoom (max)
  • replay thumbnails

Tickets with (max) are up to max and those might or might not come ever. The rest of the features I am able to do and those might or might not come ever. Tickets with (?) are questionable features. If you have some nice suggestions and ideas, please post.

So far I have uploaded the best replays from my old recsource site and a few random ones. Please contribute and upload wr replays at least.

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space = play/pause
[ (or \ next to backspace) = slower speed
] (or å or whatever your keyboard has in spot below to left of \) = faster speed
backspace = norm speedz
w = zoom out
e = zoom in
r = reverse or un
p = pictures on/off
g = grass on/off
G (shift+g) = enable both pics and grass
right arrow = seek forward
left = seek backwards

ctrl-click on replay link under the recommendations section will append replay to the current playing replay (merge)

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 21 Mar 2015, 21:58 
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truly beautiful! nice work dude.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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This is the best ever :o great work

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2015, 00:01 
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max site!
pls consider an edit: when watching rec, theres a line like this:

Length: 00:26,36 Kuski: Zweq Level: QWQUU007.lev

Plx make the kuski nick lead to elmaonline stats of him and link to level - not to download level but to level stats at elmaonlinik!
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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2015, 04:14 
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awesome! love the idea of the YouTube of elma!

for main page, could sort by categories, but still include newest rec uploaded
and by categories, i mean like internal, finished, crippled, designer, player, uploader

but great as it is right as well, good job

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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and by categories, i mean like internal, finished, crippled, designer, player, uploader


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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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what about prev - next buttons at the sides of the replay being watched. maybe)

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Best site for forever!
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1. Somehow seperate uploader/player.
2. Link on player/uploader so you can see all videos of that player/uploader.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2015, 20:24 
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Not bad ideas, keep em coming and discussing which of the features are the most important ones so I can get them done in sensible order.

The player has now been updated, if you are having problems playing recs you should check that your browser loads the newest javascript files (e.g. clear browser cache). You can seek replays by dragging on the seekbar (yellow bar on the top of the player), you can also see pause/zoom buttons while hovering the player.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2015, 22:05 
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Awesome, works well for the slacker in me too lazy to download replay to rec folder and open EOL. Most important feature right now would be a search imo, and maybe some sort of directory. Also would be nice if you could download the actual replay.

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PostPosted: 23 Mar 2015, 22:07 
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should be possible to add levelmaker also

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PostPosted: 24 Mar 2015, 12:36 
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Hmm, today the player stopped working in Chrome, there is some red circle on top of kuski and nothing is playing.
In IE it can play but the bike looks like it's going on ecstacy, jumping up and down front and back on the track like a maniac xD and no it's not one of Deaths replays.

Tried delete all cookies and stuff in IE but no difference.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 24 Mar 2015, 17:28 
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That is exactly what happens if your browser loads some old files from the cache. You must clear your browser cache, not browsing history/cookies. There is a separate checkbox for clearing cached images and files in Chrome.

Oh and seems to run nicely on my IE 11.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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awesome contribution ville_j and maxdamantus. Thank's all programer's for continuous effort's=)

offtopic: maby one day we could hav buton to press nxt to wrs in wr table to view the reclay on browser

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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Sick site. At this moment IMO the most needed feature is browsing/searching replays, which I'm sure you're working on.
Some kind of loose categories like internal / external / battle would be nice, and then could sort the most-watched/popular/best-rated replays within those categories.

And I agree with danielj, putting levmaker should be made possible. Not a big thing to add but it would give levmaker some nice easy credit if there's a nice replay in a cool lev made by him.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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Ville_J wrote:
That is exactly what happens if your browser loads some old files from the cache. You must clear your browser cache, not browsing history/cookies. There is a separate checkbox for clearing cached images and files in Chrome.

Oh and seems to run nicely on my IE 11.

Yes I run IE11 too, and I check every box when deleting history and restart browser afterwards. Still this weird ecstacy shit =D
This works great on my phone btw, very cool)

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 25 Mar 2015, 21:35 
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Yeah not bad idea that level designer, too bad can't fetch that information from eol while getting the .lev file. Added a search bar now, currently it searches with the exact given string from replay filename, level filename and level name. There is probably a lot to do to improve and add syntax for the search but for now it is what it is. Next maybe redesign the home page and add some a-z browse feature. Categories is a good idea, but I was planning to cover that with tags once the tagging of replays comes possible.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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yeah this is awesome probably will take over zworqy cause more convenient :)

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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This is like pornhub but with elma replays! Amazing!

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Unlisted feature like youtube has. So you can upload a rec and link it to anpdad without rec being listed for public on website.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 26 Mar 2015, 17:57 
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sweet mother of jebedesus very nice :D link on eol asap!!

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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This replay player is amazing, best one ever imo. And amazing u can watch replays without having to download replay from one source and the level from some other obscure source and then either opening elma to watch the recplay or using some other replay viewer.
Now I wish you could play elma in the browser :P live u can play QuakeLive


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maybe add info for when the recplay was uploaded

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2015, 13:43 
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Yes, this is great! I don't see why people would still prefer beisik upload sites like Kopasite and Zworqy over this.

For multi recs there should be buttons for dis-/enabling splitscreening and changing the focused rec.

Rec listings should include uploader and/or kuski name. Maybe also a tick indicating legitimacy vs. TAS gak?

An bit wild idea for convenience: a simple desktop program that uploads the newest file from your rec folder with a hotkey.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2015, 19:47 
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OKay here some updates: recplayer update, multirec and fullscreen support, also behaves better in mobile devices on orientation change. Replay uploader and kuski information visible on replay lists. Users can edit their own upped replay information. Search searches from replay description and kuski name too.

I have thought about that private/unlisted replays, but the conclusion was that I don't want to make it because I would ofc still have access to such replays. But if more mans really want it, maybe I will make it and resist watching them myself =)

Replay upload date should ofc be displayed, maybe even in the listings. It's just already getting a bit messy because should display so much data, gotta figure it out.

Maybe jonsykkel could code a malware to scan and observe mans rec folder and auto upload all new replays on the server.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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It works on the phone? HOLY SHIT BALLS. :beer:

btw is there a bug or a naming issue with the recommendations here? same rec file but different times :S
http://www.recsource.tv/r/vkcsoyzqhp

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It is not a bug, ofc there can be multiple replays with same filename ???

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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Ville_J wrote:
It is not a bug, ofc there can be multiple replays with same filename ???

im idiat :D

but somehow i imagined something like this happening hard to pick the correct video you wanted to check your comments on lol

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This looks cool! :o

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
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Detail request:
-Replay control: x2/x4/x8 speed
-When "r" reverse button is activated, the left and right arrow skip buttons also switch directions (try it in a video). I think it's confusing and it's better to make it so that even when "r" reverse is activated, the left button goes back in time and the right button goes forward in time.

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Detail request:
-Replay control: x2/x4/x8 speed
-When "r" reverse button is activated, the left and right arrow skip buttons also switch directions (try it in a video). I think it's confusing and it's better to make it so that even when "r" reverse is activated, the left button goes back in time and the right button goes forward in time.

Awesome website thanks

You can currently control the speed with `[`, `]` and backspace (to reset), though it might be worth ville adding them to the bar at the bottom (people with the Finnish keyboard layout seem to have trouble with those keys anyway). I can easily change the reverse speed seek behaviour if other people want it—seems like an arbitrary preference .. I get confused trying to scroll on Macbooks because it's configured by default to be the inverse of what's on other systems.


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It would be nice if they were remapped to basic letters or something! [ ] and backspace don't seem to work (I'm using a non-international keyboard)

I agree that the reverse speed seek behaviour is an arbitrary preference - I was just thinking that changing it to the way I mentioned in the other post would be more intuitive.

Cheers :beer:

PS: Also mans should post more videos; I've already watched them all

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Maybe old idea but could you make it so the rec is in a paused state when you open its page and you have to click on it to start playing? Because what happens is that I open a few interesting looking recs with a mousewheel click, then open any tab and see that it's already playing = annoying. And would be cool if recs stopped at end too instead of replaying imo.


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Okay it has been a while since I posted here so here some updates and new features:

I have added a notification feature: when someone comments a replay you have uploaded you will receive a notification on the top right corner next to your nick. This feature will be expanded so that you will also receive notifications on replays you have commented (and possibly on replays where you have been marked as kuski, this ofc needs your recsource nickname to match replay info). Also now on replay page, if you ctrl-click on a replay on Recommendations-list the replay will be merged to the current one (you can merge as many recs as you want). This behavior does not work on mobile devices so I should come up with some better ui thing for this merging action.

Then on another issue: ever since tagging feature was introduced people have used it to tag replays with more or less bongo tags which has resulted in feature not being as useful as it could be (in fact, it's almost useless atm). It has raised a discussion that maybe there should be some predefined list of tags where user could select the most fitting ones. Generally I wouldn't like this idea because that's not how tags work in any service (that I know of), but in this case it seems to be a good way to go because after all replays do not have that many useful and describing tag possibilities. Predefined list could include tags like battle, afterbattle, pipe, bounce, wr... feel free to suggest and discuss about these. It is worth mentioning that it always was my intention to implement a feature where internal level replays would get internal-tag and external level replays an external-tag automatically so those maybe don't need to be selectable on the list. Also the search function searches from level filename, level name, description and kuski information too, so you can take advantage on these fields if you feel like predefined tags wouldn't be enough. Here I should mention that internal level names are not yet extracted in the database so if you search for example 'warm up' you won't see any results, but I will try to fix this in the near future. For all battle levels and other uploads the level names should be extracted correctly.

So.. post if you got any input or thoughts on these things!

And to kuchi, that could possibly be some user definable setting if I get around implementing such.

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I think there definitely needs to be a list of predefined tags but users should be able to add their own too, for example for tagging levelpacks. A moderator for that stuff would be good too. Checking if tags are "correct", checking if there are different variations of a tag with the same meaning (these should be merged then), etc.


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Could have predifined tags you can pick for as well as inputting your own, or have it list the msot used ones to pick from.

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Ville_J wrote:
I have added a notification feature: when someone comments a replay you have uploaded you will receive a notification on the top right corner next to your nick.
Very nicely implemented, but notifications for own comments seem useless. Also, maybe there could be a little button to "mark all as read". Currently I'm clicking every comment and loading the same pages over and over just to clear the list.
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Also now on replay page, if you ctrl-click on a replay on Recommendations-list the replay will be merged to the current one (you can merge as many recs as you want). This behavior does not work on mobile devices so I should come up with some better ui thing for this merging action.
This is great! What about a possibility to link merges? Rec id's could be added to the URL and the first one would ofc be the main one with comments etc shown. Or something like this. It also seems totally impossible to find this merging feature currently without knowing about it, so yeah, some better UI thing is called for. Also, shirts from EOL would make it easier to see which rec is which. Anyway, merging significantly adds to the usefulness of this site. It's already easily the best tool for comparing recs.
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Predefined list could include tags like battle, afterbattle, pipe, bounce, wr...
If the level was battled in EOL, you could fetch the battle type automatically. But this might cause some trouble if the level was battled many times in different modes. Also, an automatic battle type tag would sometimes be irrelevant to the rec itself, so maybe this should be done manually instead. Cripples on the other hand could always be tagged automatically imo.

But let's see, what other tags could be useful... brutal, höylä, uphill, bug, target, unique trick, improvisation, spin, fail, slesk, first try, idea, apple harvest, flat track

As mans hev said, there should be some way to add or at least suggest new tags. Unused tags can be removed from the list and new ones can be added, so it ofc doesn't have to be a perfect list right away.
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...for example for tagging levelpacks.
Why? You can just search the level prefix.
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A moderator for that stuff would be good too. Checking if tags are "correct", checking if there are different variations of a tag with the same meaning (these should be merged then), etc.
Well, yeah, if ville_j isn't up for moderating tags, but is up for making a moderating system, I'm sure there are willing helpers. I could do it at least, I spy every uploaded rec anyway.

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I have allowed anonymous uploads on recsource so you don't necessarily have to register/login to upload replays. You, of course, won't have any control over replays uploaded on anonymous account. If this feature will be abused I will disable it faster than Orcc can finish Warm Up. Which is not very fast, but eventually.

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vj can you please elaborate on why did you name 2 star rating "orka"?

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cuz its not bad but not worth watching either?

also looking forward to cancel notifications from own comments :P

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If you are not familiar with the old acrossish, orka has a long history in the scene most likely to be seen used in #across. The meaning as defined by wiki: orka - I can't be bothered; I don't feel like it. I think that describes 2 stars quite nicely.

And right, will fix that little notification issue asap!

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What notifications? How can I get them?

Great improvements I see now and then Ville, mega good site!

If you vote 1/5 it should say "Trasj" =D

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 19 Jun 2015, 19:27 
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pls add the delete button, i uploaded a wrong rec and now i'm embarrased. :(
EDIT: also it's kinda stupid that you can rate your own recs.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 20 Jun 2015, 17:18 
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Lousku wrote:
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...for example for tagging levelpacks.
Why? You can just search the level prefix.
Oh, actually that returns lots of unrelated stuff. Search should probably hev at least * wildcard, so searching "AI" would search only that, and "*AI*" would search what it searches now. That way levpack tags would be totally useless imo.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 20 Jun 2015, 17:58 
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also pls add button for search "not incude auto-upped recs" :)

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 20 Jun 2015, 22:20 
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Yes search is not very efficient at the moment, lots of stuff to do and think how to filter results. Replay delete is fairly ez and quick I try to make it some soonish. Well, there are also few other easy tasks hanging so don't know when these are actually happening. Hope you can bear with it!

Edit: I don't think rating own recs is that stupid because you might upload a rec which is not driven by you. And also you could still rate replay driven by yourself if someone else uploads it. I understand the idea but it would just create a little more hassle... I think.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2015, 22:53 
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would be convenient to have a default ground/sky and low details option, sucks to watch internal recs with all the pictures imo, i'm just not used to it anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2015, 14:25 
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Now that theers many recs for some levs (internals and maby redesign stuff soon?), could hev sorting options for the recommended list. Fastest, newest, highest rated..? Dunno, or then just sort it by fastest, I guess that's the most interesting usually.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2015, 14:40 
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I just noticed that in some reclays (http://www.recsource.tv/r/eirasxuyfb for example) apples seem not to be taken.
Another thing is that when I write a comment on my own uploaded rec, it shows me a notification next to my name. One if clause should fix it.

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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2015, 15:02 
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Tigro wrote:
I just noticed that in some reclays (http://www.recsource.tv/r/eirasxuyfb for example) apples seem not to be taken.


It's the fault of the rek, same happens while watching it in game.


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 Post subject: Re: recsource.tv
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2015, 15:05 
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It's a "feature" of the saveload program used to make the rec. Basically in the replay file, it is written somewhere at what time the wheel touches the apple. Presumably using the saveload program makes it not write down at what time the apple is touched and so the apple stays there. It's the same thing with volt-arms. There is a list of the times in the replay where kuski does a volt so it can draw the hand motions. If the list is not written down then it will not show.

So basically no volt arms or no touching apple = bug in saveload program. It has nothing to do with recsource or elma

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