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Should single WRs better than multis be automatically multi WRs?

yes
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77%
no
12
23%
 
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single vs multi wrs

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Should single WRs better than multis be automatically multi WRs?

all levs without apple + sink & loop would become single WRs (ramp just got beaten)
loop is ez better multi, sink probably impsy, all other noapple levs don't make sense

+ it makes sense and that is how it is in elma
- some ppl put effort to drive those recs, but I guess it wasn't THAT much effort

admins.. move it to polls section
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ez, a few multiwrs are already hold by same guys as single (02, 05, 10, 14, 45 and prolly others)
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Of course, it makes all the sense in the world!
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Pawq wrote:(02, 05, 10, 14, 45 and prolly others)
+ 19, 29, 34
But im not so sure about 14, someone who really knows should decide
Little hard to say but i say YES
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loop is approx 0.1-0.15 faster if both players are really pro (like zweq + jarkko can theoretically do teh) but would need some lgr so they dont really see each other
dont think it will ever happen though
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Someone voted no, I'd like to see the reasoning for that.
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Yes, there's no doubt about it.
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i voted no, becouse there is no option : "just dont count no-apple levs in multi tt and mutli wr tables"
tt will be lower but who cares
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54 ints - 54 multi wrs. thats it for me. 27, 28, 30, 31... would look just... :l
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Yeah, it would look weird and why should there be a drastic rule change after 10 years? Feels like it would rape history.

You could argue that having this rule change with single player wrs automatically being multi wrs if they are indeed faster would also rape history, but that's how it should've been done in the first place! I think this change should be made, but that's just my opinion.
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ramp wr in multi not better anymore:)
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Yeah of course they should be moved. I mean come on youre saying just because that person didnt drive them in "multi player mode" thats the only reason it cant count? how is 19.79 just Jarkko any different than 20.08 Jarkko and Jarkko? there was no advantage when he didnt do it in multi player mode. just move them and quit whining about the history and whatever who gives a shit its just fair and what makes sense, isnt that more important? what IS actually the best time?
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Kortsu wrote:Yeah, it would look weird and why should there be a drastic rule change after 10 years? Feels like it would rape history.
Totally agree on this.
gimp wrote:Yeah of course they should be moved. I mean come on youre saying just because that person didnt drive them in "multi player mode" thats the only reason it cant count? how is 19.79 just Jarkko any different than 20.08 Jarkko and Jarkko? there was no advantage when he didnt do it in multi player mode. just move them and quit whining about the history and whatever who gives a shit its just fair and what makes sense, isnt that more important? what IS actually the best time?
Not really fair that just because the level has no apple that player automatically get's two WRs, with just one run. (I know in this case jarkko probably has multiple times in single better than the multi wr, but there could be other cases where that is not the case)
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maybe ask holders of all wrs that would be replaced, i dont think anyone would mind as mostly same guys would get the wrs.
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I like it how it is now, no need to change imo.
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multi is multi, single is single o,o
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The game (well, at least stats.txt) sees the combined best times as just single player times or as single or multiplayer times so there would actually be no multi tt.
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Kopaka wrote: Not really fair that just because the level has no apple that player automatically get's two WRs, with just one run. (I know in this case jarkko probably has multiple times in single better than the multi wr, but there could be other cases where that is not the case)
Who has single WR, can easily get multi WR there as well. It's just about if he decides to dully waste his time by playing the same level twice, which is stupid and boring.
Arguments about how it is unfaaair that he will get 2 WRs with one run make no sense.
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i agree with madness! why make them get a world record twice? and if its the whole getting 2 wrs with one run that pisses you off, heres a more simpler and logical thought, dont have levels without apples in the table at all. just wait until somebody gets 20.05 on uphill battle in multi mode, and Jarkko is just too lazy to go beat that, then youll realize how stupid this really is. And if your going to say single is single, multi is multi, then look at the table and see that there are records with Jarkko and Jarkko, there is not multiple players here, there is one single player. the poll speaks for itself anyways.
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gimp wrote:just wait until somebody gets 20.05 on uphill battle in multi mode, and Jarkko is just too lazy to go beat that
lal wtf, ez 19 first try
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Pawq wrote:
gimp wrote:just wait until somebody gets 20.05 on uphill battle in multi mode, and Jarkko is just too lazy to go beat that
lal wtf, ez 19 first try
He already did. http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=stats ... _multi&i=5
Apparenetly he's too lazy to send it.
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No. People have since the beginning sacrificed good runs for the multi table. If you want a multi wr in say uphill balle, you should play it as multi ffs.
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