Updating EOL levpack records

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 27 Jul 2011, 22:33

As the release of the already infamous EOL Level Pack is drawing nearer, we would like to ask how should the records be updated. Should they be updated as soon as the times are driven or rather once a week at a set time? This is only about the best times in each lev, not all nab times.

With weekly updates the problem is that you can always see the best times in EOL with ctrl+f5, so it is possible to see new records even before they would be updated.

My own opinion is that we should have weekly updates to get a bit more official feeling for the pack. Also it'd be ez to make some statistics and check out the old tables. Not to forget the honour for the leader after the first week!

roope · Post by **roope** » 27 Jul 2011, 22:39

Yeah, voted for the weekly update just for the old-fashion feeling. also can't bother to check times on each lev individually.

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 28 Jul 2011, 07:09

I like the idea of weekly table updates. It would give a nice oldskool feeling to it and being something 'special'. Dunno how special the levels will be but anyways. I also kinda agree with Jappe, but you can see the times in eol so I guess this weekly thing is ok.

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 28 Jul 2011, 07:49

Every succesful levelpack had a cool wr table, not just a lame list of times. I have no sources to back that up, but I know it is like that!

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 28 Jul 2011, 08:05

gimp · Post by **gimp** » 28 Jul 2011, 09:09

wow, thought once a week would take the cake, but its a tie vote :/

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 28 Jul 2011, 11:04

Ez instantly, there's really no point to keep it updated weekly since everyone can check the times in EOL. I wanna see fresh stats on the site.

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 28 Jul 2011, 13:11

Madness wrote:Ez instantly, there's really no point to keep it updated weekly since everyone can check the times in EOL. I wanna see fresh stats on the site.

This.

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 28 Jul 2011, 13:28

Instantly plz, when hoyling you wanna see if it gets beaten the same or next day so you can beat it again when you still have the level in your brane =)
But ye very tight voting! 50/50 atm

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 28 Jul 2011, 15:14

Ville_J wrote:I like the idea of weekly table updates. It would give a nice oldskool feeling to it and being something 'special'. Dunno how special the levels will be but anyways. I also kinda agree with Jappe, but you can see the times in eol so I guess this weekly thing is ok.

Igge wrote:
Madness wrote:Ez instantly, there's really no point to keep it updated weekly since everyone can check the times in EOL. I wanna see fresh stats on the site.
This.

Kopaka should just hide times in these levels as they are hidden in hidden battles, no beag dil i think.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 28 Jul 2011, 15:59

i guess there is no filter ingame

wipley · Post by **wipley** » 28 Jul 2011, 19:22

Once a week, of course.

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 28 Jul 2011, 22:26

Nekit gives you a piece of advice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JswHrPaKTdU

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 28 Jul 2011, 22:41

ROFL i love dimitri vids

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 28 Jul 2011, 22:55

Hahahah

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 28 Jul 2011, 23:33

Vid made me change my vote. GAA Art!

Bludek · Post by **Bludek** » 28 Jul 2011, 23:40

GAA art to the max

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 29 Jul 2011, 00:30

Orcc wrote:Nekit gives you a piece of advice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JswHrPaKTdU

lol:D
GAA gaa

wipley · Post by **wipley** » 29 Jul 2011, 02:54

Whoever made this video gets my vote.

Oh, and he can get all my money while I am at it. Genius.

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 29 Jul 2011, 03:31

wipley wrote:Whoever made this video gets my vote.

Oh, and he can get all my money while I am at it. Genius.

Isn't it kinda obvious who made it?

Kazan · Post by **Kazan** » 29 Jul 2011, 05:15

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHSHAHAAHHAH

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 29 Jul 2011, 08:32

HAHAHAH BEST VID. I have seen HoN version of that. Awesome, the guy in teh vid is a genious.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 29 Jul 2011, 15:21

Jappe wrote:i dont get why it should be weekly updates, when has it ever been like that for levelpacks? (except back in the day when it was manual updating, but that is remnant from the past). if i make best time in some levelpack i dont want to wait for a week to see if someone has beaten my time or not

As far as I remember EOL levpack was supposed to be like "new internals"...

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 29 Jul 2011, 15:25

that video was seriously max
rofled irl

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 29 Jul 2011, 16:53

omfg, i lost so hard

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 30 Jul 2011, 07:03

X-Ratio wants weekly updates.

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 30 Jul 2011, 11:12

Once a year plz. Then it will get the real magic awesome incredible fantastic WR-like orgaaassmm feeeeeeeeeling.

Ves · Post by **Ves** » 13 Aug 2011, 07:22

I was the last voter, 20/20 before

One more thing would be nice - to calculate personal TT limit breakers, like it was in Lost Internals.

http://www.moposite.com/contests_kinglist_lost_internals.php wrote:- 66 minutes:
dz 26 Jan 2002
(6h 41min after releasing the levs)

- 70 minutes:
Orcc 25 Jan 2002
(3h 40min after releasing the levs)

- 75 minutes:
dz 25 Jan 2002 (3h 4min after releasing the levs)

All required data is stored in EOL database so it can be done anytime later.

UPD. So lame... What's the point in updating each friday if results are shown anyway?

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 13 Aug 2011, 11:07

Mila said it would be one minute update to hide the records, but now we just need him to do it.

Ves · Post by **Ves** » 13 Aug 2011, 12:31

Is it not possible on database side, without involving mila?

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 13 Aug 2011, 12:46

But how could we lure him to do such thing...

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 13 Aug 2011, 13:05

Ves wrote:UPD. So lame... What's the point in updating each friday if results are shown anyway?

The point is obviously that you will be able to check on teh site all the new records that have been made during the last week. Why should it be hidden in EOL ? When one decides to hoyl a lev, he also wants to see what is the best time there, so why to complicate it by some stupid hiding times ?

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 13 Aug 2011, 18:24

To make the stupid wrtable something special! Otherwise it'll just be a shift+f5 in browser, not in eol. Damn it.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 14 Aug 2011, 16:21

i may fix it some day so you see old weekly eol records ingame (and in internals)

roope · Post by **roope** » 14 Aug 2011, 16:53

nice, do it

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 14 Aug 2011, 21:57

done teh, it shoudl work next time it gets restarted
only it was edited ridectly on teh server so if anything gets fucked server wont work
we will see next time kopaka restarts teh:)

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 15 Aug 2011, 14:55

looks like EOL times are properly hidden everywhere ingame (except F7 table if you are not hidden) and on the server
real hoyling can start ... now!!!

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 15 Aug 2011, 17:11

Thanks!

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 15 Aug 2011, 21:17

The poll is corrupted, someone made 20 phantom users voting for Once a week. o,o

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 15 Aug 2011, 22:53

Annoying as fuck. If enough people vote for instantly to get instantly back on top, can it be changed back?

Stupid to hide times -.-

Hidden times battles always suck, what makes you think it will work in a pack. No times ever get hidden in a pack. 0lp, Uni, LostInts, etc. Never hidden times, always max spoken about between people.

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 15 Aug 2011, 23:04

Hidden time battles are exciting. Also what the fuck are you talking about no hidden times in levpacks? There was no EOL when those packs were released

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 16 Aug 2011, 01:46

I'm just curious, how many people actually agree with this?

Haruhi wrote:Hidden times battles always suck

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 16 Aug 2011, 10:21

Orcc wrote:Hidden time battles are exciting. Also what the fuck are you talking about no hidden times in levpacks? There was no EOL when those packs were released

Times were always discussed at great length. In this case, it's more of a "hush, keep times secret so we all get surprised lol" attitude.

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 16 Aug 2011, 10:37

Lousku wrote:I'm just curious, how many people actually agree with this?
Haruhi wrote:Hidden times battles always suck

i agree

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 16 Aug 2011, 11:29

Haruhi wrote:[Times were always discussed at great length. In this case, it's more of a "hush, keep times secret so we all get surprised lol" attitude.

feel free to discuss your great times in great length

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 16 Aug 2011, 11:39

But gotta ssh, times must be kept secret so people get surprised.

J-sim · Post by **J-sim** » 16 Aug 2011, 12:18

haruhi, if everyone could see all times, what would people really have to talk about? not much since all the information is there for everyone to see. the reason why this method, atleast for example in world cups and i'm geussing on the first elma wr tables, makes for discussion about times is because it's all based on rumours. the good old days was all about trading times, styles and replays (and being paranoid about having or not having the right information) and that was precisely because times weren't known. get it?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 16 Aug 2011, 12:49

ppl kept talking about their times only if they were shit
once they were good, they were always quiet - in all famous levpacks or cups

J-sim · Post by **J-sim** » 16 Aug 2011, 13:11

sure. or ppl lied about times that were seconds better than anyone were capable of and nabs got confused weither the times could be for real or not.

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 16 Aug 2011, 16:34

Haruhi wrote:
Orcc wrote:Hidden time battles are exciting. Also what the fuck are you talking about no hidden times in levpacks? There was no EOL when those packs were released
Times were always discussed at great length. In this case, it's more of a "hush, keep times secret so we all get surprised lol" attitude.

Again, what the fuck are you talking about? Out of those three that you mentioned earlier (0lp, Lost internals, Uni) you have only been there when Uni's were released. Then you should know that there are only like four players who have really played that pack (axxu, Markku, Tisk, adi), and I don't remember anyone talking about those times. 0lp and Lost internal times were discussed in irc exactly because people didn't know others' times and it was max when everyone played mind games with others, just like J-sim said.

When should EOL Level Pack best times page be updated?