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Would you play?
Yesh internals, I would höyl 38%  38%  [ 14 ]
Okiz, I would cruise 22%  22%  [ 8 ]
Fak those levs, I wouldn't play 41%  41%  [ 15 ]
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 Post subject: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2014, 00:34 
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Not many mans are höyling internals nowadays. Should we start a ~year-lasting cup where every internal has one week of playing time?


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2014, 00:44 
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cool idea - cup format would surely increase interest in internals, but on the other hand - imagine kazans or other zweqs coming in and making almost-wr time in one minute. that would be quite demotivating


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2014, 00:53 
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i don't really get the point.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2014, 01:42 
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I voted no because first off, I never played internals and I doubt I would. But also because I think that people would lose interest after just a few weeks. Focusing hardcore on one internal after the other for a whole year. I can't imagine that would work out.

focus on externals instead :)


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2014, 07:13 
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I didn't mean any world cup -serious thing. Rather something to motivate people to improve their TT's, see who's the man in their team and so on. It's quite fun when occasionally in EOL people gather into one internal for little playing sessions.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2014, 12:00 
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Maybe it is not that bad an idea, but I voted for "Fak those levs". Such a *yawn* reaction now that start thinking that would have to start playing those levels yet again after having höyled and lost state.dat several times during the years. Or maybe this would be exactly the thing that could motivate me playing internals one more time? Or then not. I really can't make up my mind, but what's the harm if such cup is started and is ran automatically by EOL? Of course it is forgotten pretty fast if no one gives a shit about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2014, 13:14 
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I wanted to vote "Fuk those" too, but after that I realized that internals are pretty cool sometimes.

I think better would be to not make it a cup, but just a prefered internal for a week. It could be written on elmaonline and IRC (just a small note, but visible) or somewhere: "this week's prefered internal is WARM UP" and people would know, that others would hoyl it too and help them with that internal.

It may not be a succesful idea, but it is worth to give it a try, i guess :)


edit: OH, OH, just got and idea. Maybe there could be some reward for making a PR in the week of selected (prefered) internal. Maybe an Achievement on elmaonline? I LOVE getting achievements :D

This system benefits newbies the most, but it is not a bad thing to bring ppls to internals. It could encourage even the best players to hoyl a bit more maybe. More likely not but maybe :D

like: http://i.imgur.com/NDAIa7R.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/VwUqyuS.jpg (btw why it is not passyble to put pics in this post?)

Or more likely an achievement for beating a target time in that week? I think "professional" times are doable for most elma ppl in a week if they give it a good try. World class time get a little bit more effort and learning (usualy) all the tricks in that internal, but it is an option too.


-> or a combination of those two (which would i prefer)! To make a professional time OR a personal best in that week to get achevement. <-

Ez meta achievements for getting PR in every internal, just first 18 internals (shareware PRs), over 1 min internals and such... ? maybe that is overthinking, tho...

jsut some shiat to discuss


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
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I voted "Fak those" because I think playing internals in a cup format just can't work.
However, I do like Bludek's idea of an 'Internal of the week' type of thing, where we all play mainly one internal for that week and help each other with styles.
And it doesn't have to be in order either. It could be an internal that hasn't got much love and attention in a while.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2014, 15:36 
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Bludek's idea sounds cool :D


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2014, 18:01 
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Bludek wrote:
-> or a combination of those two (which would i prefer)! To make a professional time OR a personal best in that week to get achevement. <-...


I did choose bad wording there. I've meant to get a pro time, or if you already have a pro time, get a better time than that.

So beating professional target time for majority of players OR beating their own time, if you have already beated that target (in order to get achievement).


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 30 Dec 2014, 01:09 
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I like the ideas, wether it's an actual cup or some sort of highlighted internal of the week, the big issue is promoting it and motivating people to care. Stuff like achievements can be a good motiver to some, but actually making those is so annoying, not that it's hard really, just requires a lot of data processing. Haven't really found a good solution for that.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
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idk, let's just make today the week of int 01 and we'll see how it works :) Ez make next int very diff, but this is obv choise.

At least I will try to make pr in WU, if noone else!


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 8 Jan 2015, 17:18 
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I want trophies whenever I beat any pr in a week. Such bad nowadays :(

Anyway sounds like a nice idea. Don't need much planning or anything. Also good way to bring new people into internals and discuss about the levels, fps, styles etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
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Very good ideas.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 8 Jan 2015, 18:51 
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Achievements and target times sound like a nice addition. I guess Kopaka should be the one starting this if we only do a plain cup with nothing more than a point system. It is true that marketing can be tough, maybe should have some binus mention on EOL site front page.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
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Orcc wrote:
[...]a plain cup with nothing more than a point system.[...]

I don't see the point in this. Why use a point system?


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 8 Jan 2015, 23:03 
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That would give at least a little motivation without requiring any fancy stuff to be added. After all Elma is a competitive game, I don't think anyone would play if there weren't any top lists.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 9 Jan 2015, 08:50 
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Everyone has their own top10 list 8)

I love to see internal fads come and go in EOL. Sometimes out of nowhere 10 people are hoyling a level for days, just because at some point you asked one other person for help on that lev. But maybe it's something that happens naturally, and wouldn't work well if forced, I dunno..


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
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Igge wrote:
Everyone has their own top10 list 8)

I love to see internal fads come and go in EOL. Sometimes out of nowhere 10 people are hoyling a level for days, just because at some point you asked one other person for help on that lev. But maybe it's something that happens naturally, and wouldn't work well if forced, I dunno..

I'm one of those Internal fags, when I see someone play an internal I usually go spy or play it myself aswell. It's fun and motivating seeing other play or spy.


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 Post subject: Re: Internal a week -cup
PostPosted: 23 May 2017, 15:23 
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plz make it from next year, but each week random internal, obv last will be the one left


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