unbelivable BUG!!!!!!!!

cpprules · Post by **cpprules** » 9 Jan 2006, 14:09

One day i was driving as usual, and i forgot to pick up apple. But i finished level anyway, the apple
was left floating in air. Unbelivable isn't it!!!!!!!

Download the level, and replay here ( ziped together )
http://www.geocities.com/kvizse/BUG.zip
If you don't think the apple is real, try to pick it up yourself...
And as far as my driving skills, i was playing this one with my left hand.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 9 Jan 2006, 14:16

That's a known bug. If you take one apple with both wheels at the exact same time it will count as two, and you can skip taking one apple. You can also do it with one wheel and the head.

Edit: Saw the replay now, doesn't seem you take any apple that way, strange.

niN · Post by **niN** » 9 Jan 2006, 14:27

The same happened to me when i was playing Double Trouble.

I got great time

Lee · Post by **Lee** » 9 Jan 2006, 14:27

That's common on WTH. Happened to me just yesterday.

Tm · Post by Tm » 9 Jan 2006, 14:29

Third apple is taken with head and wheel.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 9 Jan 2006, 14:32

Tm wrote:Third apple is taken with head and wheel.

That's right, didn't see that apple at all first time

cpprules · Post by **cpprules** » 9 Jan 2006, 14:42

yeah it was. i couldn't notice that.

So what if you pick up two apples at the same time, with only one wheel each... would that count as four?

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 9 Jan 2006, 14:56

no of course not, the thing with picking up 1 apple with both wheels is that you pick it up twice but when oyu pick up 2 apples one time each then it is still 2

klisse · Post by **klisse** » 9 Jan 2006, 15:12

Does someone know if it's possible to pick up one apple with head and both wheels at same time? And would that count as three apples? Please post level and rec if it could be done!

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 9 Jan 2006, 16:15

yes of course it is posibble, and yes it would count as three apples, but it is way harder and you some bongo bounce nitro or some levl designed for that only i think ;X

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 9 Jan 2006, 16:38

happened to me once... but that wasn't the "two wheels at same time = 2 apples" bugs... touched the apple with front wheel only... got max time

can't remember the lvl.. some team pack lvl

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 9 Jan 2006, 18:57

Xiphias wrote:happened to me once... but that wasn't the "two wheels at same time = 2 apples" bugs... touched the apple with front wheel only... got max time
can't remember the lvl.. some team pack lvl

Then you didnt look hard enough...

DamRho · Post by **DamRho** » 9 Jan 2006, 19:03

This isn't that bad I've seen headbanger done in 20 seconds by people going through walls and stuff like that.

berhabdul · Post by **berhabdul** » 9 Jan 2006, 21:59

i did it in 19 secs but whats your point while we are talking about hooked bug?

DamRho · Post by **DamRho** » 9 Jan 2006, 22:35

Samir wrote:i did it in 19 secs but whats your point while we are talking about hooked bug?

The point is that this is described as an "unbelievable bug" while in fact there are bugs that are far more messed up in the game.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 9 Jan 2006, 22:53

It's a cheat that you're talking about damnit.

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 9 Jan 2006, 22:55

Leeland wrote:That's common on WTH. Happened to me just yesterday.

Happened to me on that lev and nobody believed me

And no it isnt possible to take an apple with all three things (wheels and head)

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 9 Jan 2006, 23:20

Dynamo wrote:
Leeland wrote:That's common on WTH. Happened to me just yesterday.
Happened to me on that lev and nobody believed me

And no it isnt possible to take an apple with all three things (wheels and head)

I know there's a table somewhere of the top10 times on what the heck with bug...
or was it hooked...
don't remember on which site though...

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 10 Jan 2006, 00:20

Juski wrote:
Xiphias wrote:happened to me once... but that wasn't the "two wheels at same time = 2 apples" bugs... touched the apple with front wheel only... got max time
can't remember the lvl.. some team pack lvl
Then you didnt look hard enough...

No i'm 100000% sure... cuz the other wheel was in normal possition... couldn't be easier to see.

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 10 Jan 2006, 01:02

Xiphias wrote:
Juski wrote:
Xiphias wrote:happened to me once... but that wasn't the "two wheels at same time = 2 apples" bugs... touched the apple with front wheel only... got max time
can't remember the lvl.. some team pack lvl
Then you didnt look hard enough...
No i'm 100000% sure... cuz the other wheel was in normal possition... couldn't be easier to see.

then you looked at wrong apple or there just is that apple, or upload rec!

The_BoneLESS wrote:
Dynamo wrote:
Leeland wrote:That's common on WTH. Happened to me just yesterday.
Happened to me on that lev and nobody believed me

And no it isnt possible to take an apple with all three things (wheels and head)
I know there's a table somewhere of the top10 times on what the heck with bug...
or was it hooked...
don't remember on which site though...

Lol! why wouldnt it? of course it is possible only 1000 times harder.
And teh top10 hooked bugtime was on monkeii site.

Post by **SveinR** » 10 Jan 2006, 01:03

Xiphias wrote:No i'm 100000% sure... cuz the other wheel was in normal possition... couldn't be easier to see.

And the head?

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 10 Jan 2006, 01:05

nope...

ill see if i can find the replay. very old one so not sure.

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 10 Jan 2006, 01:38

I'm saying that its impossible to touch the same apple with all three things.....its impossible

Post by **SveinR** » 10 Jan 2006, 02:10

Dynamo wrote:I'm saying that its impossible to touch the same apple with all three things.....its impossible

Why?

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 10 Jan 2006, 04:13

Cuz if an apple can fit inside all three, you'd have to compress one or more of the three positions.....if its so possible...someone prove it...it isnt hard to simulate a two point apple touch in an external situation.....so make a level that proves this.....

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 10 Jan 2006, 12:28

this is how it could be done:

the wheels are stretched horizontally, so an apple can easily fit through them and move towards the head. Then just as the apple touches the head, whatever it was that was stretching the wheels disappears and a floor appears, causing the wheels to snap into the apple.

cpprules · Post by **cpprules** » 10 Jan 2006, 21:49

sierra wrote:this is how it could be done:

the wheels are stretched horizontally, so an apple can easily fit through them and move towards the head. Then just as the apple touches the head, whatever it was that was stretching the wheels disappears and a floor appears, causing the wheels to snap into the apple.

agree

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 10 Jan 2006, 21:55

K now go and do that

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 11 Jan 2006, 00:28

do pipe like this:

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drop the kuski from the top and brake at those edges, if speed high enough, it might be possible, but hard to achieve:)

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 11 Jan 2006, 01:03

Ya I see what u mean mila.....the tricky part is getting the head to hit at the same time

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 11 Jan 2006, 16:43

Saying it is impsy was just idiocy, ez just touch teh with all three at once and done.

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 11 Jan 2006, 21:38

So...I'm an idiot cuz I was wrong?

I could really care less..seriously I don't care if I was wrong lol

1phatman1 · Post by **1phatman1** » 19 Jan 2006, 06:21

just have a level with the wheels compressed at the start with apple in middle so apple touches everything at start

Ky.Jelly · Post by **Ky.Jelly** » 19 Jan 2006, 06:52

SERIOUSLY MAN HOW AWESOME AM I

lol here is the hooked top10 bug times as per m0nkeii's site
http://www.geocities.com/hategreen/tables.htm

zixOne · Post by **zixOne** » 24 Jan 2006, 00:57

and if u touch killer with both parts you die twice

Post by **SveinR** » 24 Jan 2006, 01:04

zixOne wrote:and if u touch killer with both parts you die twice

That's actually an interesting theory. If one of the players did this in multi, would the other also die?

Jalli · Post by **Jalli** » 24 Jan 2006, 01:09

In multi ez register 6 apples by taking one =)

goofu · Post by **goofu** » 2 Jun 2006, 18:17

niN wrote:The same happened to me when i was playing Double Trouble. I got great time

lol , me too

veezay · Post by **veezay** » 22 Jun 2006, 17:42

SveinR wrote:
zixOne wrote:and if u touch killer with both parts you die twice
That's actually an interesting theory. If one of the players did this in multi, would the other also die?

i guess nat, because the number of taken apples is like evergrowing, like the game is just counting them up, but touching a killer is a yes/no-situation, so if you touch the killer with both wheels at the same time, the game only registers the first wheel (be it the front or rear) or whatever the game code checks first and then it's automatically DIE. and even if it wasn't, it sure wouldn't kill teh other one, otherwise it would be quite bad coding by balazs.

btw hi! tj15 Â¨=)

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 22 Jun 2006, 17:45

well if you touched the killer with head + front wheel... then maybe u'd get a Double No.. and not die at all

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 22 Jun 2006, 22:02

veezay wrote:so if you touch the killer with both wheels at the same time, the game only registers the first wheel (be it the front or rear) or whatever the game code checks first and then it's automatically DIE.

nah, it's like :
int checkdead()
{
int die=0;
if(headinwall) die=1;
if(headinkiller) die=1;
if(wheel1inkiller) die=1;
if(wheel2inkiller) die=1;
return(die);
}
so you can die 4 times;)

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 22 Jun 2006, 22:35

But can you die falling in a hole, like in Super Mario Bros. 3 ?

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 23 Jun 2006, 00:13

really?

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 23 Jun 2006, 05:12

simon_labroue wrote:But can you die falling in a hole, like in Super Mario Bros. 3 ?

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 23 Jun 2006, 17:29

simon_labroue wrote:But can you die falling in a hole, like in Super Mario Bros. 3 ?

if you count internal error as dieing then yes...

Kestas · Post by **Kestas** » 24 Jun 2006, 17:31

jaytea just did this winning replay on battle which is obviously a bug. he says it's just a visual illusion. what do you say and is there a way you could explain how something like this could happen ?

http://mxb.dk/upload/zoli103.lev
http://mxb.dk/upload/zol103jt.rec

jonsterion · Post by **jonsterion** » 24 Jun 2006, 17:34

Kestas wrote:jaytea just did this winning replay on battle which is obviously a bug. he says it's just a visual illusion. what do you say and is there a way you could explain how something like this could happen ?

http://mxb.dk/upload/zoli103.lev
http://mxb.dk/upload/zol103jt.rec

Actually he said that when he was playing he saw the bike catching all the apples. The rec must be currupted or something. Plus, his time was close to yours so...

jaytea · Post by **jaytea** » 24 Jun 2006, 17:35

to clarify, when i was playing the lev, it looked like i took all the apples. but the replay shows that i didnt. ive never known a replay to not match exactly what was seen during the actual drive.. even with a bug bounce or such..which is why i find this strange. milagros or someone plz explain

jaytea · Post by **jaytea** » 24 Jun 2006, 17:54

um lol the same thing happened again last battle:

http://www.mxb.dk/upload/lOL.lev
http://www.mxb.dk/upload/lOljt.rec

im sure someone else can reproduce teh, i just use vsync on

Post by **SveinR** » 24 Jun 2006, 18:35

jaytea definitely gets all the apples, the his head/wheel is clearly inside the apples' circle (when looking at rec in detect0r program), and it is also shown as being finished.

But don't make such battle levs; they just get me internal errors ;(