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any eta when stopping gathering recs btw?
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Well thanks to Zweq and John for sharing a few more recs, the totaltime is now 36:22,45, almost a 10 second improvement from the last update. Can't share the times/recs just yet, but they are quite nice, look forward to seeing them.

Anyway, just about finishing up with stuff now, so I guess this is semi-last call for sharing any more replays. A DVD version is looking less likely to be made right now, but I will make a big matroska file with lots of soundtracks and high quality video at the very least, together with the smaller avi versions.

As it looks now, these version will be made:
~4.4gb mkv 800x600 29.97fps xvid, all soundtracks
1.4gb avi 800x600 29.97fps xvid, max 4 soundtracks (avi container limit)
700mb avi 800x600 29.97fps xvid, ~2 soundtracks
350mb avi 640x480 29.97fps xvid, 1 soundtrack
~100mb avi ???x??? 29.97fps xvid, 1 soundtrack with mega suck quality

Any other suggestions or requests?
Hopefully mila can convert the constfps.exe to the newest Elma version used for Ballelma so that I can also create a sick quality x264 720p 60fps version, should look nice in that case.

If anybody has songs they might want included in the video, send them to me on IRC and they'll be considered for inclusion. Right now there will at the very least be 4 soundtracks; metal, pop/rock, electronica and hip-hop. Hopefully Luther gives sign of life and blesses us with a commentary track as well. Would be nice if somebody else would like to do one as well, but I'm guessing that's not happening.
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Wow, sounds good. Are you going to sell it or what, if you are making it on DVD?
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No, in that case it would be a iso file you could download and burn yourself. But I doubt a DVD version will be made at this point, unless there is some huge demand for it.
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hope yuo make nice metal track, edfq1 is fun to watch just for the music

edit: ah what the fuck, screw the wr update, release when you want to.
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LOLZ skint this looks so pro, just wait, I'm gonna boot up mIRC and skicka some songs. :D

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Alright, list updated with the new times.
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skint, i cant dl the movie i have like the crappest inet connection ever, so im just wondering are u gonna release the .recs of all the replays in the movie? cheers
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Only the ones that are public obviously, but you can already download most of those if you search the replay sharing topic I guess.
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DVD version sounds really cool

I hope that nobody will sent 42,76 or better tricks abound rec :// - i want to be a part of that movie... :twisted:
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holy shit at 54 tunnel terror :O
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really looking forward to watch 14.00 warm up, 53.42 jaws and 54.98 tunnel terror :-o
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Ran into a problem today while making pcx files for the 720p version. Problem is that the constfps patch was made with 1.11hb, which seems to mess up grass/textures when using zoom. I don't think mila is going to make a 1.2 version of it, so the question is this: which way is better, zoom with ugly grass and textures, or no zoom but far viewing distance?

Here's a comparison of grass problems that might happen in some levels: http://up.k10x.net/epvporkurxxlw/zoom-vs-grass.jpg
And here's another example of the first texture problem I ran into: http://up.k10x.net/gidiktnuycwtp/sn2855.png

So for those of you with any interest in a 720p version (are there any at all?), what do people think is the best option?
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lalz ;S easily teh first link0r is teh baest
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Im used to ugly textures so I want zoom.
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i don't want zoom
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i dont want textures
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mebe we need to edit the .LEB files for that. Fuck, but how did we do that again?
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make mila do teh anyway, otherwise no zoom. It's a movie it has to look nice.
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I figured out how to fix texture problem. Kinda easy and should have noticed straight away when I ran into problem, but I just removed the mask pictures from LGR, so now it's only semi-ugly grass that ruins zoom. And this is only for the 720p in case you didn't notice.

Still not sure what's better, zoom and semi-ugly grass, or no zoom at all. Not too much opinions yet, so guess I decide myself and you can whine after the movie's done instead.
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Still it is a movie and i think it has to look professional then, so i say rather no zoom than ugly grass. But still doesn't matter too much.
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No grass is best :P
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niN wrote:No grass is best :P
I played without grass for a long while but last two years or so I've appreciated nice grass and graphics. Elma has very beautiful graphics after all... as long as I can put the pictures on background. :)
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dz wrote:
niN wrote:No grass is best :P
I played without grass for a long while but last two years or so I've appreciated nice grass and graphics. Elma has very beautiful graphics after all... as long as I can put the pictures on background. :)
Yeah :P Agree. Now I'm in a phase where I like levels without grass, but elma does indeed have nice graphics :)
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Use zoom even if grass isnt perfect. Ive noticed replays looks much faster and better if you got bigger zoom. And it would`nt be so nice to see the tricks in different levs if no zoom.
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when will be day of relaease? :)
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Post by jaytea »

*bump* so whats happening with this?

there might be a few better recs from John's replay pack on his site
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soan he has to rebuild sound tracks because wrs get better etc :D
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hih

btw i forgot, youre waiting for luther for commentary right? id say forget it, or get someone else
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Post by Lukazz »

maybe some new recs by zweq there?
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when skintor starts on it again
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Post by DaFred »

Would be so nice to have the video with 35:XX TT :X
But its maybe s.t. for v3..
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Now would be perfect time to get this finished with new Zweq replays! :D
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come on skint0r, everything else can wait now!! i think ppl would even buy money to see this
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Lukazz wrote:come on skint0r, everything else can wait now!! i think ppl would even buy money to see this
I wouldn't buy money to see this ;P
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DaFred wrote:Would be so nice to have the video with 35:XX TT :X
But its maybe s.t. for v3..
35:XX is already made! hehe
plz make the movie
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Mawane wrote:
DaFred wrote:Would be so nice to have the video with 35:XX TT :X
But its maybe s.t. for v3..
35:XX is already made! hehe
plz make the movie
thats not what he meant

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Post by skint0r »

Focus has been on the ballelma site lately, but with these last crazy zweq recs I guess I'll have to get in gear and finish this. Updated list with newest time. Totaltime of video is now 36:04,62.
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boah shit! can't wait to see this!!!
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If I can see these recs now I promise to stop pressuring you about the movie skint.
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36:01,90 now.
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35mins and you will make teh? What are the most problematic levs? Worst current replays compared to WRs?
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Abula wrote:Worst current replays compared to WRs?
first that comes to mind is upside
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2.3sec off wr tt is awesome, MAX respect to John and Zweq for sharing everything. i dont expect we'll get to 35tt replays because of Upside as John said.. need one of the WNO sickos to kill another wr in next table and share :)
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Fucking awesome, WNO! I love you guys :*
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Post by Memphis »

im getting bloody excited for this movie. If somehow we can release it today that'd be tight.... but if not ill wait i guess. ya under 36 movie though would be a lot cooler then 36:01:xx
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was looking through WNO times and saw that there were 3 better times than the list here, o&U 29.90, Grav 23.18 and Curva 29.20.. maybe these were forgotten or overlooked when submitting?

anyway if they are shared it would make the tt 36.01.48
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There is going to be a replay playing during the credits in the video, so if you don't have internal skills you still have a chance to get into the movie. There will be a battle sometime later today (in about 6hrs time) on the level that will be used, so the best replay I get will be used in the movie (not just during the battle mind you, you'll have a few days to höyl it).
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nice idea!
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skint, could you post the link to the level here after the battle has passed ? Would love to play the level!
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