Ghost mode in Elma
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Ghost mode in Elma
well,
I think it'll be the most helpful thing that can be added to Elma in a future patch.
To those who doesn't know what ghost mode is, so it simply a mode that you drive any level and behind your bike you'll have another half-invisible bike controlled like a replay that was chosen before.
The question is :
is it possible to create a ghost mode in a future Elma patch, and, of course, will it ruin the idea of doing the hard methods by yourself and not fully copy them from proffesinals?
Anyway, tell me what you think please.
BTW, i took the ghost mode idea from Motocross Madnees 2 and maybe it is used in ither places.
I think it'll be the most helpful thing that can be added to Elma in a future patch.
To those who doesn't know what ghost mode is, so it simply a mode that you drive any level and behind your bike you'll have another half-invisible bike controlled like a replay that was chosen before.
The question is :
is it possible to create a ghost mode in a future Elma patch, and, of course, will it ruin the idea of doing the hard methods by yourself and not fully copy them from proffesinals?
Anyway, tell me what you think please.
BTW, i took the ghost mode idea from Motocross Madnees 2 and maybe it is used in ither places.
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http://moposite.com/mopolauta/viewtopic.php?t=363
It's discussed a bit there.
Even though a ghost could be cool, I think Merge Replay is enough.
It's discussed a bit there.
Even though a ghost could be cool, I think Merge Replay is enough.
I'll make own forum for Elma 2.
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I've never thought that kind of using merge replays Maybe sometimes i check where was i faster/slower then my other replays, but never using to höyl such a way, coz it is slow and hard. ghost mode would make it easier. But letme change my opinion, now i think it's not such a big problem if ghost mode is in the game, ok.
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Well it would help to improve times faster
Could also be very useful for u KD
It would also put some pressure on you, if u fx:
have the wr replay of lab pro, and u want to beat it, then u would have to be at the flower before the "ghost" and then u would pressure ur self to do a better drive... u know what I mean ???
Could also be very useful for u KD
It would also put some pressure on you, if u fx:
have the wr replay of lab pro, and u want to beat it, then u would have to be at the flower before the "ghost" and then u would pressure ur self to do a better drive... u know what I mean ???
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For me? No way. I'm not playing internals anymore. Maybe some exts it would be useful, but not as much i think. You couldn't drive better if you see the other driver i think. It would only confuse you i think. But who knows? Let me try ghost mode, and then i can tell it properly
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A while back I played super mario kart.. In it, there was a Ghost mode when you drove time trials ( as far as I remember ) .. I really liked it in that game, as it was really fun, to drive "against yourself"
By placing a version of that in elma people would properly improve their times much faster. It would indeed make it easier to learn new styles..
The value of a new WR/style would greatly improve, as the replay would become even more useful..
the addition of this feature would prob(p)ably ( hehe abula ) shift the balance of the game a bit, as with the alovolt-button.. and some people wouldn´t like the addition ..
.. .. .. I think I am one of them .. .. .. ..
I can see how it could be useful, and I would proberly use it if it came.. but as it is now, I don´t like the idea.. It changes too much in the game imo
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By placing a version of that in elma people would properly improve their times much faster. It would indeed make it easier to learn new styles..
The value of a new WR/style would greatly improve, as the replay would become even more useful..
the addition of this feature would prob(p)ably ( hehe abula ) shift the balance of the game a bit, as with the alovolt-button.. and some people wouldn´t like the addition ..
.. .. .. I think I am one of them .. .. .. ..
I can see how it could be useful, and I would proberly use it if it came.. but as it is now, I don´t like the idea.. It changes too much in the game imo
GuyB[rdk]
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We have discussed this same thing like 10 times but anyway. I don't like the idea.
But it wouldn't matter that much in WR playing because the ghost would only annoy you and when the differences are 0.01-0.2 which means like one wheel. In some long cruising external levels it could be fun. For example Hiki Track in MC levels on Moposite.
But it wouldn't matter that much in WR playing because the ghost would only annoy you and when the differences are 0.01-0.2 which means like one wheel. In some long cruising external levels it could be fun. For example Hiki Track in MC levels on Moposite.
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Well.. I dislike the idea to... but I don´t think a Ghost would be annoying. I have played Super Mario Kart pretty much in the past and played many ghosts (I have my best time on Mario Curciut saved as a ghost, minicheat ). And it really helps pushing down times to race a ghost.. you see so easy where to push this or that. And... that is not how I wanna play Elma.
Not for now anyway.
Not for now anyway.
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I haven't play Mario Cart but I'm pretty sure that it is much different than Elma and in that game the ghost mode may work well. It doesn't mean it would work in Elma (like you said).
DYW265: some cracker would make it working in Internal levels too.
DYW265: some cracker would make it working in Internal levels too.
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I just mean that you cannot limit it only to external levels. So if we think it would help too much beating WRs or something like that we shouldn't make it. Limiting only to the external levels isn't a good solution.
Did you notice that all WR drivers and veterans are against it and n00bs or semi-n00bs with.
Did you notice that all WR drivers and veterans are against it and n00bs or semi-n00bs with.
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sometimes abula is so clever, notices things that absolutely no one alse notices, and are completely not obvious!Abula wrote:Did you notice that all WR drivers and veterans are against it and n00bs or semi-n00bs with.
of course us n00bs and semi-n00bs want it, we want anything that can help.
now, all the pros and hoylas don't want it, because:
1. they don't need it, they're good already.
2. they don't want n00bs and semi-s00bs to be good all of a sudden. they wanna keep this game hard and sometimes quite annoying.
conclusion: it's just a game. chill.
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Read above and laugh, haha. Good statements.. must be true. You dumb silly little girl. Of course GhostMode would help good players more than newbies. Just look at yourself, you proabaly cant even drive 2 similar drives to warm up... so: How shoul dthe Ghost help you? You think just cause you have a Ghost it is easy to drive similar... well. I wouldn´t be surprised to hear you say you think that. (I mean, after all, I have never heard you say anything that makes sense).
No offence...
You might be a nice person, but when it comes to elma, you know jack!
Read above and laugh, haha. Good statements.. must be true. You dumb silly little girl. Of course GhostMode would help good players more than newbies. Just look at yourself, you proabaly cant even drive 2 similar drives to warm up... so: How shoul dthe Ghost help you? You think just cause you have a Ghost it is easy to drive similar... well. I wouldn´t be surprised to hear you say you think that. (I mean, after all, I have never heard you say anything that makes sense).
No offence...
You might be a nice person, but when it comes to elma, you know jack!
Elasto Mania - ez better
So maybe the proffesionals are right...
Anyway, I understand that ghost mode is not a future Elma feature and i think too now that it'll be able to ruin the scene...
Anyway, I understand that ghost mode is not a future Elma feature and i think too now that it'll be able to ruin the scene...
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i love you toramone wrote:You dumb silly little girl.
well ramone, you're obviously still mad at me for that whole MOX recrods thing. but that's off topic, and also i'm sick of explaining it to you, as i have done so many times, and yet you still don't get it.then ramone wrote:Just look at yourself, you proabaly cant even drive 2 similar drives to warm up...
what the hell are you talking about?also, ramone wrote:I mean, after all, I have never heard you say anything that makes sense.
of course not, why should i be offended by that?finally, he stupidly wrote:No offence...
what can I say, the one girl in this fucking forum is rightMopoGirl wrote:sometimes abula is so clever, notices things that absolutely no one alse notices, and are completely not obvious!Abula wrote:Did you notice that all WR drivers and veterans are against it and n00bs or semi-n00bs with.
of course us n00bs and semi-n00bs want it, we want anything that can help.
now, all the pros and hoylas don't want it, because:
1. they don't need it, they're good already.
2. they don't want n00bs and semi-s00bs to be good all of a sudden. they wanna keep this game hard and sometimes quite annoying.
conclusion: it's just a game. chill.
BUT: I can see why some ppl dont want it in the game because it was not in the original game like alovolt and such, this I can understand...
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ok you guys. Say ghost helped me get wr's, well, its gonna help the pros get them also. its not like 1 group only gets the disadvantage, EVERYONE would benifit from it. and if you could only use it on recs you your self drove you couldnt copy others recs. not that you cant anyway even without.. An no matter what, ghost or not, you still have to be able to drive the lev to get a good time, you can watch a rec a million times, and it won't help unless you know how to drive.
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I haven't read your posts once again
But i'm against the ghost mode.
I could make a version of it pretty quickly (thanks to a thing, yep a THING). But it would be a very bad thing, believe me.
So please forget it.
Merging is enough. Maybe someday i'll add a merger for the replay you can watch from the "Play Again" menu. So that you don't have to save and go to the main menu.
I SAID MAYBE.
But i'm against the ghost mode.
I could make a version of it pretty quickly (thanks to a thing, yep a THING). But it would be a very bad thing, believe me.
So please forget it.
Merging is enough. Maybe someday i'll add a merger for the replay you can watch from the "Play Again" menu. So that you don't have to save and go to the main menu.
I SAID MAYBE.