Big Book of Elma Facts

Domovoy · Post by **Domovoy** » 13 Feb 2010, 19:08

The main idea of this project is to collect and popularize precise but completely useless technical details about elma and across, kinda elma popular science. The most part of them haven't been published yet, so I think it would be interesting for you. There're 5 pilot "facts" for now but about 20 more are in queue, so stay tuned.
http://trivia.idiaths.ru/

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 13 Feb 2010, 19:46

There're is nice word =D

edit: Sick facts =D=D=D

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 13 Feb 2010, 20:08

I love it!

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 13 Feb 2010, 20:15

Very cool, looking forward to more useful facts.

EDIT: Something about the randomness of bike movement could be interesting and useful.

niN · Post by **niN** » 16 Feb 2010, 16:06

Fucking awesome! Ez publish this as a downloadable version when it's finished!

Domovoy · Post by **Domovoy** » 16 Feb 2010, 17:42

Thanks. 3 more facts added.
Anyone needs RSS? I've made one but not sure it's correct: http://trivia.idiaths.ru/rss.xml

Bludek · Post by **Bludek** » 16 Feb 2010, 18:45

Domovoy wrote:Thanks. 3 more facts added.

nat yet

edit: oh, works now. F5 helped

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 16 Feb 2010, 19:03

F5, such an awesome fella

Those facts are awesome

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 16 Feb 2010, 19:05

I'm just wondering. Where the f' do you find those facts? xD

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 16 Feb 2010, 19:27

ez super-imagination

NoZKeY · Post by **NoZKeY** » 17 Feb 2010, 07:02

Lol Elmameters!!

This is awesome, fun to read those sick facts!

Chris · Post by **Chris** » 17 Feb 2010, 15:29

Nice.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 21 Feb 2010, 17:57

Very awesome endeavour, it's amazing how you got all this.

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 21 Feb 2010, 22:54

amazing. keep the fuckeds coming. cheers.

Domovoy · Post by **Domovoy** » 22 Feb 2010, 19:32

3 more facts.

niN · Post by **niN** » 22 Feb 2010, 20:10

I just read everything. It's nice facts

though I would like to know more about the physics in game. Like gravity, acceleration etc. I also wonders if there is any air-resistance? if not then it's a little unrealistic that the wheel will move up/down in air when you spin it, isn't it? And how do the brakes suck to the ground like that? These kind of facts could actually improve kuski skills I think

nick-o-matic · Post by **nick-o-matic** » 22 Feb 2010, 20:16

Thumbs up!

And yeah I'd definetly like to see physics facts too.

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 22 Feb 2010, 20:27

Luv it! I vote for physics too.

Domovoy · Post by **Domovoy** » 22 Feb 2010, 20:44

Dudes you didn't really get the point

The main idea of this project is to collect and popularize precise but completely useless technical details about elma and across

"Compeletely useless" is what it is all about. I plan several facts on elma mechanics but the project is more about history, about how the things came to where they are, about what was abandoned, and what was kept from the very beginning. That is what I'm writing in the first place.

niN · Post by **niN** » 22 Feb 2010, 21:01

but it would be great to the scene

pleeease

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 22 Feb 2010, 21:06

Where can I DONATE for the Elma Facts?! I'm not joking!

Domovoy · Post by **Domovoy** » 23 Feb 2010, 17:10

abruzzi wrote:Where can I DONATE for the Elma Facts?! I'm not joking!

money? no thanks

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 23 Feb 2010, 17:46

What about donating fingernails?

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 23 Feb 2010, 19:31

Well, I think knowing something about the physics would be very interesting and not like max useful. But if you think it wouldn't suit this project of yours, then maybe do a separate release of those facts xD

dorTrus · Post by **dorTrus** » 25 Feb 2010, 08:52

Nice stuff, Domy! Some facts were really interesting to read)

DaFred · Post by **DaFred** » 25 Feb 2010, 13:41

really interesting facts, can't wait for more =)

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 25 Feb 2010, 14:06

I really enjoyed this! Keep updating!

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 25 Feb 2010, 14:21

A.K.B. wrote:I really enjoyed this! Keep updating!

will post it once for 2 or 3 days

Domovoy · Post by **Domovoy** » 26 Feb 2010, 23:07

3 more.

trew · Post by **trew** » 27 Feb 2010, 00:15

Sweet. How big is the book gonna be?

Kortsu · Post by **Kortsu** » 27 Feb 2010, 00:20

Educated guess says around 25 facts

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 27 Feb 2010, 00:48

very many sick and interesting!!!! great job! thanks

Domovoy · Post by **Domovoy** » 27 Feb 2010, 00:54

Phlaim wrote:How big is the book gonna be?

I have 45 drafts in my design document. After filtering out facts that violate Balazs rights or disclose some information relevant to cheating, and combining the rest, there would stay about 10-15 facts, I guess.
Also I am learning some new information and recalling some nuances not listed in the design document in the course of time, so there can be about 5 facts extra.

Thus there would be about 30-35 facts in total. After that I will probably hold some special researches on demand, like abovementioned physics details.

DaFred · Post by **DaFred** » 27 Feb 2010, 01:51

By the way, to get actual error messages instead of “Sorry, internal error”, you should create file message.inf of arbitrary content (empty will do as well) in elma directory.

This is really cool, I got some interesting error message like "strlen error <= ...". =)
How do you find out all this stuff?

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 27 Feb 2010, 02:03

Is the Elasto Mania background editable? Or Balazs made picture in pattern? And what about the characters, are they images or something in the game generate textured characters?

Domovoy · Post by **Domovoy** » 27 Feb 2010, 02:12

Xiphias wrote:I'm just wondering. Where the f' do you find those facts? xD

teajay wrote:it's amazing how you got all this.

DaFred wrote:How do you find out all this stuff?

I just have a lot of spare time

. And some skills in reverse engineering, but time is determinative.

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 27 Feb 2010, 02:16

You are my new God, Domi, really. Please, please, do not resign from any Facts apart from the ones that obviously help to cheat! Please!

Domovoy · Post by **Domovoy** » 27 Feb 2010, 02:19

DaFred wrote:I got some interesting error message like "strlen error <= ...".

I never saw that kind of error. You can retrieve the exact text of last error message from the file error.txt in elma directory, and then we will find out what it is about.

Mawane wrote:Is the Elasto Mania background editable? Or Balazs made picture in pattern? And what about the characters, are they images or something in the game generate textured characters?

Menu background is filled with picture in pattern; font is a bunch of pictures.
I will publish more about menu backgrounds and fonts the day after tomorrow.

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 27 Feb 2010, 03:03

cool, look what i made with photoshop with your informations

http://up.k10x.net/nhztruzyzucxz/elma_menu.png
and editable file

http://up.k10x.net/jrcbpavwgyqan/elma_menu.psd

DaFred · Post by **DaFred** » 27 Feb 2010, 17:27

Mawane wrote:cool, look what i made with photoshop with your informations

I can't see something oO?

Domovoy wrote:I never saw that kind of error. You can retrieve the exact text of last error message from the file error.txt in elma directory, and then we will find out what it is about.

Ah cool, here it is...

<<message.inf accessed>>
floadlevel_p-ben strlen( nev ) > 12 || !nev[0]!:
hangmaster.lev

looks like level name is too long?

Domovoy · Post by **Domovoy** » 27 Feb 2010, 18:50

DaFred wrote:floadlevel_p-ben strlen( nev ) > 12 || !nev[0]!:
hangmaster.lev

The most possible way of getting that error is to open in ordinary elma replay, created in belma.

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 1 Mar 2010, 05:02

Someone could tell how to have fancy error messages? Like: "Sorry, you lost the game." or "rofl fail" or "PWNED"

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 1 Mar 2010, 12:50

There were some program to change the different texts in elma, didn't find it on zworqy's site thought.

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 1 Mar 2010, 12:54

Bismuth wrote:Someone could tell how to have fancy error messages? Like: "Sorry, you lost the game." or "rofl fail" or "PWNED"

ez.. just edit the strings with some hex editor or a dissasembler

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 1 Mar 2010, 13:44

http://www.moposite.com/programs/elma_text.zip

Domovoy · Post by **Domovoy** » 2 Mar 2010, 04:24

I am about to switch to unhurried silent mode. That means I'm going to publish 1-2 facts per week (instead of current 7 facts per week) and I'm not going to post bumping junk like "3 more facts" in this topic anymore. Use http://trivia.idiaths.ru/rss.xml to keep yourself tuned.

However any suggestions about new facts or discussions about existing facts are greatly appreciated.

LousQ wrote:http://www.moposite.com/programs/elma_text.zip

That program works fine only on elma 1.0. Ez patch it to work on 1.11a, but until anyone actually does that, the only way to have fancy error messages is to hexedit elma.
The program itself is really weird, written in Basic and packed with lame packer, no wish to patch it.

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 10 May 2010, 16:06

Domovoy wrote:I am about to switch to unhurried silent mode. That means I'm going to publish 1-2 facts per week (instead of current 7 facts per week) and I'm not going to post bumping junk like "3 more facts" in this topic anymore. Use http://trivia.idiaths.ru/rss.xml to keep yourself tuned.

Seems like you switched to void mode:) Come on, pull off one a week, you can make it:)

masterBurn · Post by **masterBurn** » 21 Jun 2010, 20:10

Hey domi, nice Book you have, over there!

I suppose you have stopped updating the page because of lack of "question ideas," which is quite understandable. However, if you ever feel like adding more posts in the future, here is a thing I've always been curious towards:

What is alovolt? How has it come about? Why louder sound, why right and not left, why, why, and why.

Yours,
mawane

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 21 Jun 2010, 22:16

why did you say my name?

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 21 Jun 2010, 22:21

HHAHAHHAHHAH

Best regards,

Mawane's teeth