Elma Online site: Plans, Ideas, Changes

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 3 Nov 2010, 23:01

Very interesting post, Juish!

Juish wrote:d) More designer stats, number of polys places, # of vertices placed, # of each pictures used, ect. the list could go on.

Oooooh yes, that to me is the most important thing. I've said it before on lauta: we need an easier level rating system and some kinds of different statistics for designers. This greatly encourages quality levelmaking and results in better battles. That is needed!

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 3 Nov 2010, 23:24

???????? for every so called "quality" level you get 3 uphill ff's, isn't that rewarding enough

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 3 Nov 2010, 23:35

changing limits (next version should finally work with 20k vertices) was not that easy, that's why I asked beforehand (#across?) what should be the limit and I changed it that way
now its not enough again, damez

I liked this sentence :
"With the introduction of EOL(new technology) we increased playability, fun factors.."
I liked the word "we"

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 4 Nov 2010, 14:35

Juish wrote:"elmanomics - the study of sustaining a healthy hoyling climate"

ez elma + nick-o-matic + rus (Nekit) = elmanomik

good ideas, nice way to view things, stuff

passe · Post by **passe** » 5 Nov 2010, 14:32

elmaonline.rar was not found on this server (http://elmaonline.moposite.com/download/elmaonline.rar)

jblaze · Post by **jblaze** » 5 Nov 2010, 21:25

will loging in to http://sshoyer.net/eol/ ever be possible???
i need to unignore one man, unignoring on http://elmaonline.moposite.com/ doesnt really work.
its weird cause i had this man on ignore list like 2 months, but still saw his posts. somehow today i cant see posts anymore ,o,o,oo

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 6 Nov 2010, 15:24

as written in news, use eol.sshoyer.net instead

and yeah has been some bugs with ignores

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 19 Nov 2010, 16:55

eol site wrote:Fatal error: Class 'ZipArchive' not found in /home/kopaka/eol.sshoyer.net/dlshirts.php on line 8

hmm:(

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 19 Nov 2010, 19:39

Pawq wrote:
eol site wrote:Fatal error: Class 'ZipArchive' not found in /home/kopaka/eol.sshoyer.net/dlshirts.php on line 8
hmm:(

Yeah this server does not have zip installed. I've tried to compile php myself with zip but unsuccesfull.

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 20 Nov 2010, 09:34

Search for something in chat logs (veeery nice feature). Click a timestamp (nice, nice). It doesn't link to the correct page (seems it always links to the first day of chat logging?).

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 20 Nov 2010, 12:52

LousQ wrote:Search for something in chat logs (veeery nice feature). Click a timestamp (nice, nice). It doesn't link to the correct page (seems it always links to the first day of chat logging?).

Yeah when I did that it broke the main chat page and upon fixing that it broke the search

. Anyway fixed now.

jonsykkel · Post by **jonsykkel** » 21 Nov 2010, 02:20

hey kopaaka this might be usful

pclzip.lib.zip: (28.4 KiB) Downloaded 307 times

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 21 Nov 2010, 13:13

jonharkulsykkel wrote:hey kopaaka this might be usful
pclzip.lib.zip

QFT.

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 2 Jan 2011, 08:29

why are there like 25 bmps per player in shirt zip?

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 11 Feb 2011, 00:19

Got some motivation again lately, so I updated first post with plans and bugs. But I would like to know what should be a priority, of those written in first post or something else people might want..?

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 11 Feb 2011, 04:13

actually stats are quite restricted by the current coded features; some user-friendly rough data manipulation for viewing would be nice since there are infinite possibilities to make new features, or is that too private?
examples:
sometimes i'd just like to see all times gotten by any kuski with time-stamps during a period
or i'd like to see amount of apples gotten by a kuski for certain time-stamp range, to see if he's abusing apple count
could sort all battles by wintime to see how long are battles in overview
i'd like to compare 2 kuskis by their rank in balles, all common levels played by both kuskis are shown with ranks
when reading only chat logs, there might be some confusions about what they are talking about like when they say "OMG talli!", so then around this time-stamp, it could list some events that happened, like finished time in int29: 42,35. then ez understand
could add multiple records to selected levelpack, like Best Times, Number of Finishes and Playing Time

what do you think about the idea?

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 11 Feb 2011, 10:13

Mawane wrote:when reading only chat logs, there might be some confusions about what they are talking about like when they say "OMG talli!", so then around this time-stamp, it could list some events that happened, like finished time in int29: 42,35. then ez understand

Cool idea imo. Could be a few checkboxes for what events are shown in-between chat lines. Such as finished times, battle events, players connecting and disconnecting. Maybe a bit useless thingy but cool nonetheless.

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 11 Feb 2011, 20:58

Yeah, would be cool to have some things included in chat like "new battle leader" or "new PB for xx in internal xx", and it could be very cool to have a friends list to which you can easily send private messages and whose connections/disconnections could appear in chat. Everything could be optional and selected in eolconf. It would rock.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 11 Feb 2011, 21:36

Mawane wrote:actually stats are quite restricted by the current coded features; some user-friendly rough data manipulation for viewing would be nice since there are infinite possibilities to make new features, or is that too private?

Definately a good idea. Could be some sort of page with a lot of check/dropdown/text boxes.

The other things aswell. Would the chat thing be fine if you have to click the specific line and then you get info about stuff that happened around that time?

Mawane wrote: could add multiple records to selected levelpack, like Best Times, Number of Finishes and Playing Time

That's already there if people add it for their packs.

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 12 Feb 2011, 04:29

Kopaka wrote:
Mawane wrote:actually stats are quite restricted by the current coded features; some user-friendly rough data manipulation for viewing would be nice since there are infinite possibilities to make new features, or is that too private?
Definately a good idea. Could be some sort of page with a lot of check/dropdown/text boxes.

The other things aswell. Would the chat thing be fine if you have to click the specific line and then you get info about stuff that happened around that time?

Great to see that its doable

And yes it would be fine, that's what i meant.

Kopaka wrote:
Mawane wrote:could add multiple records to selected levelpack, like Best Times, Number of Finishes and Playing Time
That's already there if people add it for their packs.

Nah, cant list all records for number of finishes, only individual levels and cant load 3 things at once to compare for example Best Times, Number of Finishes and Playing

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 21 Feb 2011, 04:46

Mawane:
Disciplinary Status
Starting Warning, Expires: 2011-08-17 17:09:03
Reason: Internal battle, battle number 483

in fact it expired 2010-08-17 17:09:03, year is buggy

EDIT: Ok, thought was like 1 week 1st warning, 1month 2nd and 1year 3rd

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 21 Feb 2011, 12:05

How could it possibly expire sep 2010 when a warning lasts for a year?

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 14 Mar 2011, 15:53

What do people think of mail notification when there's a new news/shout/reply to support ? Setupable in settings ofcourse. And should it be default on or off?

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 14 Mar 2011, 16:24

Good idea! Default off.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 14 Mar 2011, 17:36

Lousku wrote:Good idea! Default off.

exactly :)

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 10 Apr 2011, 17:04

oh oh oh !
http://beta.elmaonline.net/?s=stats&p=1htt
where is total time!!!! ez implement in 1min, it just has to be there o/

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 10 Apr 2011, 17:22

What man mean? I see 66 total times on that page.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 10 Apr 2011, 17:57

total time of best times nab :P

Smibu · Post by **Smibu** » 18 Apr 2011, 15:10

Does balleabort break winning rows? I think that's what happened to me. I mean I had 4 wins, then I entered new balle but it got aborted. Then next lev started and I won, but site said still 4.

And does winning row go to zero if I don't play some balle? Or does it count just for those balles that I play?

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 20 Apr 2011, 00:03

Yes it does break your row (unless it's stopped with you in lead)

Winning row counts for all battles, it's who is on the CURRENT winning row. If you log off, someone else becomes the current winner.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 21 Apr 2011, 14:41

geez why didn't anyone tell me that

so that's why many people's best row is fucked

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 21 Apr 2011, 15:51

pls we REALLY need more aborters! there are far too little, it's very often that there is no aborter around when there should be one.

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 21 Apr 2011, 16:25

Just shout out for an abort in irc.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 22 Apr 2011, 15:08

Orcc wrote:Just shout out for an abort in irc.

why aren't just a few more ppl able to abort battles? it worked on belma too.

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 22 Apr 2011, 15:43

Because then the people who have abort rights now won't feel as special! Just like bjorn when he realized he wasn't the only one who was gonna get op in #tehcup :(

Smibu · Post by **Smibu** » 23 Apr 2011, 20:50

I sometimes get a weird bug when logging in - the site somehow wants to reload itself over and over again, and Firefox gives the message that the page can only be refreshed by sending the data again (user and pass)... and if I agree, it just loads the page again, asks again, loads the page,... and if I click Cancel, I just get an empty page.

edit - I can avoid this by clicking stop before the page is fully loaded...

Smibu · Post by **Smibu** » 10 May 2011, 10:20

-Search chat by kuski name (would be good for checking if someone has talked non-eng :))
-Include date in timestamps and battle type in latest battles
-I think making "No. of battles" diagram a "pole" diagram would make more sense.. also it's useless to display "tomorrow" in it

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 10 May 2011, 13:59

Wtf, no. of balles tomorow??

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 11 May 2011, 14:19

date in latest battles really necessary? kinda obvious that it's either today, or yesterday if the time is higher than clock is now.

Having tomorrow there is a workaround to make it use 0 as lowest value, otherwise it would use 40 or sach now, which would make it seem like a day with 40 battles had no battles during a quick glance.

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 21 Jun 2011, 20:58

Don't remember if I've suggested this before, but could it be possible to get chatlog from battle's duration on the single battle's own page? Would be nice to see what people have been chatting during the battle.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 22 Jun 2011, 12:18

Orcc wrote:Don't remember if I've suggested this before, but could it be possible to get chatlog from battle's duration on the single battle's own page? Would be nice to see what people have been chatting during the battle.

If you check first post, it's already in plans :)

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 6 Jul 2011, 03:26

put days, weeks, years to the driving stats instead of only hours
example: jonharkulsykkel:
Driving Stats
Total Playing Time: 1722:55:56,60
--> 10w1d18h55m56,60 ez
sick stats btw jonik))

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 6 Jul 2011, 07:05

AcTuAllY ThE NeCeSsITy Of MiNUTeS and SEcOnds CaN bE FuRthEr DiscuSsed. WhaT ABouT If PalYtIME LeSs THaN 1HouR
Total Playing Time: Less than hour
WHat AboUT If PAlYTIme LESs THan 24 HoURs AND gRAETER Than 1HouR
Total Playing Time: x(ThIS Here Is CAlLed A VaRIAbLe) hours x( x( x(
WhAT aBouiT If PLaYTimE GreaTeR ThAN 24 HOuRS
Total Playing Time: xDays XDDDDDD

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 6 Jul 2011, 17:14

Make the function yourself, that converts a time in hundreds to those values and I'll implement it

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 6 Jul 2011, 17:29

http://snipplr.com/view/49609/nice-time ... on-in-php/

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 6 Jul 2011, 17:39

just do realhours = hours % 24, days = hours / 24;
no need for months/years

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 20 Jul 2011, 02:12

would it be possible to do some kind of buffering memory so that losing connection wouldnt matter since its saved offline and sent when next connection? dunno how heavy it would be with lenght offline till connection

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 25 Jul 2011, 06:37

Speed records make the server go :( for a good while now

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 1 Aug 2011, 14:07

how often is the ranking updated? once a day?

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 1 Aug 2011, 20:30

Every 10 minutes, if there has been a new battle.