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After four long years of waiting ReDesign Cup 2 is here! The first version was used to break team FM, but maybe by now they have had enough time to reunite. Bjenn don't worry, the cup is for internals again.

This time the cup will consist of seven one-week events (with one skip), so it will end just in time before nIN's cup MR3. The level editing rules will be revealed with the first lev on Sunday 12.7.2015 20:00 EEST (Moposite time). Team members are again allowed to use the same level, so go gather your long-lost teammates! For those of you who are not familiar with the cup concept, you can check out the previous version here http://mopolauta.moposite.com/viewtopic.php?t=7120.

The cup site is up and running, so you can go register yourself and spend the weekend drawing in the banner.
http://elma.oktobia.org/redesigncup2/.
The results will be pasted in #redesigncup2 @ IRCnet.

We dedicate this cup to the memory of lately passed away, the biggest-hearted member of Elma scene, Mawane.

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This time you are only allowed to manipulate the gravity in levels. You can add new (gravity) apples and edit the gravity of the original apples. However, be sure not to create new polygons or vertices, or move any of the original vertices or apples (or flower...), otherwise your level will not be accepted. You can move the start position when editing (good for testing obv), but you have to reset the start position to its original place with the upload script on the cup site.

For someone who is completely new to this competition: The goal is to edit an internal level by the given rules and then drive as good time in the level as possible.


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Pos. Kuski                        -23-    -38-    -27-    -47-    -36-    -52-    -28-    Total

   1. finman [dat]                 100     100      75     100      85      50      75     535  (585)
   2. roope [MiE]                   65      85      85      55       -     100      85     475 
   3. Pascal                        40      45      65      65     100      85     100     460  (500)
   4. Lousku [BAP]                  50      75      55      45      75      40      45     345  (385)
   5. Redline87 [BAP]               24      65      40      40      65      65      55     330  (354)
   6. TL                            45      30      50      36      50       -      65     276 
   7. Schumi                        33      55       -      75      55      45       -     263 
   8. Bismuth [<3]                  18       -      45      50      45      55       -     213 
   9. Mrrrr [BAP]                   12      40      36      33       -      36      50     207 
  10. adi [MiE]                     75       -     100       -       -       -       -     175 
  11. Zero [dat]                    85       -       -      85       -       -       -     170 
  12. Pab [SV]                      55      36       -       -       -       -       -      91 
  13. Stini [ICE]                   36      50       -       -       -       -       -      86 
  14. Bjenn [EF]                     -       -       -       -       -      75       -      75 
  15. astral-r                      30      33       -       -       -       -       -      63 
  16. ofta                          27       -       -       -       -       -       -      27 
  17. jonsykkel [BAP]               21       -       -       -       -       -       -      21 
  18. Lukazz [BAP]                  16       -       -       -       -       -       -      16 
  19. umiz [HoHo]                   14       -       -       -       -       -       -      14 


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Oh and one more thing - STOKE!!!!!!

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I watched video from RDC 1 and it looks like fun.

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stoked indeed! there have been very few exciting cups in the last few years.

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The first event starts in 9 hours! I will be away but ville_j is around to reveal the rules, the event itself starts automatically.

You can ask anything from either of us, fastest way is probably through IRC (don't forget #redesigncup2).

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ReDesign Cup 2 event #1 has started and rules have been revealed! There has already been some confusion about the rules, you can blame Orcc who wrote them (and I was slightly drunk when I read them), so here is a clarification:

This time you are only allowed to manipulate the gravity in levels. You can add new (gravity) apples and edit the gravity of the original apples. However, be sure not to create new polygons or vertices, or move any of the original vertices or apples (or flower...), otherwise your level will not be accepted. You can move the start position when editing (good for testing obv), but you have to reset the start position to its original place with the upload script on the cup site.

For someone who is completely new to this competition: The goal is to edit an internal level by the given rules and then drive as good time in the level as possible.

If you have any questions or problems with the editing or uploading feel free to ask.

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Important notice: test your level with the upload script every once in a while. The script did not go through an extensive test (tested only with levels edited in internal editor) so there might be problems if you use some other external editor. However, I will be testing and updating the script so that you can use the editor of your choice. If you had problems inform me what editor you used and what was the error and I try fix it, #redesigncup2 will serve you 247 in irc.

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5. To verify the times you need to drive them in EOL. However remember to be careful when playing in EOL, since others might steal your levels or see your times. We highly recommend you to check the "lock new levels" box in the bottom left corner of eolconf. You can press shift+F3 to change the setting in-game, in case you're making battle levels.


Can you explain this? I mean - I have "Lock new levels" checked so my level is not automatically saved in EOL database once I enter it, right? But what about times? Are times saved in EOL database since the lev is not saved there?


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Times are saved even if your levels are locked (I guess the levels are upped too, just not possible for others to dl them).

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Good to know. :) Thank you for the answer!


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Hmm, this sounds very very hard to me. Using gravity all the time to speed up = playing on dangerously high speed with lots of airtime, and frankly I suck at stuff like this...


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Hmm, this sounds very very hard to me. Using gravity all the time to speed up = playing on dangerously high speed with lots of airtime, and frankly I suck at stuff like this...
Combined with levs where you have to go back and forth, fast styles will be going through apples while flying fast.

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Ohh, such a shame I am not playing anymore... RDC1 was the best cup I have ever participated in.

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This should be fun to watch and play. Can't wait to see the results of this first week, at least to know what to expect from the future weeks :roll:

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Tigro, what exactly is stopping you to participate in this cup? You wouldn't be the first one to get back in elma business for ReDesign Cup. And yeah, probably the most interesting part of this cup is going to be the viewing of the replays!

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Is it oke that I have different nicks in eol and at http://elma.oktobia.org/redesigncup2/ ?? If no, could you pls change my nick there or I have to register again?

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It is oke, we are verifying times with an analog eye.

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We're soon reaching the halfway of the first event and already the competition is fierce! For example at the moment the second place is a tie. Come and join the fun!

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Here are redesigned internals in the banner, only 51 to go.

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The site sometimes loads so slowly... :( Or it doesn't load at all, like now.

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I know, the host isn't good. But I got so much stuff in there that I'm just too lazy to move them to some other host. So just some days ago I renewed that one for another year x)

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I managed to up rec after all, so it's all good :roll:

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Can't wait, I'm actually happy with a time I'm submitting to a cup. Obviously everyone will have a low 15.xx but who knows maybe I won't be last this time

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Eights hours of the first event left! Still plenty of time to improve.

The results will be first, shortly after deadline, posted to #redesigncup2 @ IRCnet and after we've verified the times in EOL they will be posted on the web site as well.

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So the first event is over! Quick Round was edited and driven the quickest by finman [dat], congratulations! Here are the results:

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18. Mrrrr [BAP]                 31,30    12p
17. umiz [HoHo]                 28,18    14p
16. Lukazz [BAP]                28,05    16p
15. Bismuth [<3]                27,98    18p
14. jonsykkel [BAP]             26,92    21p
13. Redline87 [BAP]             26,84    24p
12. ofta                        26,76    27p
11. astral-r                    26,57    30p
10. Schumi                      25,93    33p
9. Stini [ICE]                  25,44    36p
8. Pascal                       25,08    40p
7. TL                           24,93    45p
6. Lousku [BAP]                 24,72    50p
5. Pab [SV]                     24,59    55p
4. roope [MiE]                  23,76    65p
3. adi [MiE]                    23,73    75p
2. Zero [dat]                   23,48    85p
1. finman [dat]                 23,31   100p


The site is not fully working at the moment (for some reason..) and you can't download recs there. But all the replays have been (and will be) uploaded to recsource.tv where you can watch and merge (and also download) them.

Second event also started, good luck editing Curvaceous!

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May I use an different lgr in my level?

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Second event is over! Honorary mention to TL for playing wrong lev almost the whole week.

Next up: Shelf Life.

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11. TL                         30,41    30p
10. astral-r                   24,66    33p
9. Pab [SV]                    23,06    36p
8. Mrrrr [BAP]                 22,56    40p
7. Pascal                      22,18    45p
6. Stini [ICE]                 21,97    50p
5. Schumi                      21,64    55p
4. Redline87 [BAP]             21,10    65p
3. Lousku [BAP]                20,82    75p
2. roope [MiE]                 20,79    85p
1. finman [dat]                20,24   100p


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Third event over, grats to everyone who made it to top 10! Replays in recsource http://www.recsource.tv/

Next lev: Enigma

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9. Mrrrr [BAP]                 32,66    36p
8. Redline87 [BAP]             31,97    40p
7. Bismuth [<3]                30,65    45p
6. TL                          28,39    50p
5. Lousku [BAP]                28,35    55p
4. Pascal                      27,12    65p
3. finman [dat]                26,64    75p
2. roope [MiE]                 26,52    85p
1. adi [MiE]                   25,22   100p


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Deadline in two hours! The lev is short, so go give it a try.

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Fourth event over and an old winner claims his throne back. Also nice to see many styles in such a short lev: http://www.recsource.tv/

Next up: Fruit in the Den

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10. Mrrrr [BAP]                 9,44    33p
9. TL                           9,31    36p
8. Redline87 [BAP]              9,24    40p
7. Lousku [BAP]                 9,02    45p
6. Bismuth [<3]                 8,65    50p
5. roope [MiE]                  8,42    55p
4. Pascal                       8,29    65p
3. Schumi                       8,18    75p
2. Zero [dat]                   8,09    85p
1. finman [dat]                 8,08   100p

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Why is the levels the same as last RDC?

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If you go through the internals with editing in mind, you will find that many of the levs are not very suitable for it. For example very flat levs or high speed gravity flying. We are trying to figure out the most interesting levs to suit this style of redesigning, they just happen to be similar to the first cup.

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Three days left of event five, don't forget RDC even during FEM STOKE!

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For some variety would be nice to see some ridiculous events as well. I really hope you pick AH ;)

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I think the levs have varied a little. I feel that AH would be a bad candidate since we have so few players. About two people would give it some thought, a couple would make one finish and the rest would skip.

Surely there's going to be another redesign contest after the cup where you can compete in all the levs!

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I am having problems uploading this one. I add all apples, don't move anything else, and when I upload it always says: objects do not match.

I've done it as careful as pos, 3 times now, got same result. Ofc, if I download lev and don't touch it, then reupload it works, but if I add the gravity apples I can't upload anymore :(

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That sounds like you are doing everything correctly, it's just ville_j that sucks. Could you upload your lev for example to http://kopasite.net/up/ and post the url to me or lousy_j and we will investigate the case.

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This sounds weird to me, the script should be (not) working consistently. So... don't know really.

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Sure, I uploaded it:
http://kopasite.net/up/0/qw036.lev

I guess I will skip this one since I can't paly. :|

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Oh well that sucks. Which editor did you use? Maybe you could try some other editor, still 45 minutes left!

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Ville_J wrote:
Oh well that sucks. Which editor did you use? Maybe you could try some other editor, still 45 minutes left!

Used SLE for 2nd and 3rd tries. Used NEW! for first try.

6 minutes left... I have rec ... but I can't upload the lev so...

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Event 6 renaults will be delayed to about 21 EEST, but remember to joing #redesigncup2 for them LIVE.

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Sixth event renaults here! We have one new player and a new event winner. Replays at http://www.recsource.tv/

Code:
9. Mrrrr [BAP]                 22,55    36p
8. Lousku [BAP]                20,30    40p
7. Schumi                      19,92    45p
6. finman [dat]                19,58    50p
5. Bismuth [<3]                19,31    55p
4. Redline87 [BAP]             18,52    65p
3. Bjenn [EF]                  18,02    75p
2. Pascal                      17,71    85p
1. roope [MiE]                 17,64   100p

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Mrrrr wrote:
Sure, I uploaded it:
http://kopasite.net/up/0/qw036.lev

I guess I will skip this one since I can't paly. :|


I have checked your level, and it is completely missing (or it has been moved) one of the original apples in the level. Also the replay you sent does not work on that level, is that the right file or what's going on? Here maps:

Original:
http://kopasite.net/up/3uxmsmoynp17s1z/36_original.png

Edited:
http://kopasite.net/up/126jdygt2w12bxe/36_mrrrr.png

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Wait, the final event is over? I thought we had until Monday ((((

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It is over indeed, here are the results of the final event:

Code:
7. Lousku [BAP]                35,77    45p
6. Mrrrr [BAP]                 32,27    50p
5. Redline87 [BAP]             31,71    55p
4. TL                          31,25    65p
3. finman [dat]                29,25    75p
2. roope [MiE]                 29,21    85p
1. Pascal                      27,62   100p

Another win for Pascal, gz! As the cup is now over, here are the final standings:

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Pos. Kuski                        -23-    -38-    -27-    -47-    -36-    -52-    -28-    Total

   1. finman [dat]                 100     100      75     100      85      50      75     535  (585)
   2. roope [MiE]                   65      85      85      55       -     100      85     475 
   3. Pascal                        40      45      65      65     100      85     100     460  (500)
   4. Lousku [BAP]                  50      75      55      45      75      40      45     345  (385)
   5. Redline87 [BAP]               24      65      40      40      65      65      55     330  (354)
   6. TL                            45      30      50      36      50       -      65     276 
   7. Schumi                        33      55       -      75      55      45       -     263 
   8. Bismuth [<3]                  18       -      45      50      45      55       -     213 
   9. Mrrrr [BAP]                   12      40      36      33       -      36      50     207 
  10. adi [MiE]                     75       -     100       -       -       -       -     175 
  11. Zero [dat]                    85       -       -      85       -       -       -     170 
  12. Pab [SV]                      55      36       -       -       -       -       -      91 
  13. Stini [ICE]                   36      50       -       -       -       -       -      86 
  14. Bjenn [EF]                     -       -       -       -       -      75       -      75 
  15. astral-r                      30      33       -       -       -       -       -      63 
  16. ofta                          27       -       -       -       -       -       -      27 
  17. jonsykkel [BAP]               21       -       -       -       -       -       -      21 
  18. Lukazz [BAP]                  16       -       -       -       -       -       -      16 
  19. umiz [HoHo]                   14       -       -       -       -       -       -      14 

Congratulations finman for winning the cup! Tight battle between roope and Pascal, but because of the 1 skip rule roope passed Pascal in the final standings and placed 2nd.

Thanks for playing, maybe we will be back with another redesign cup idea again after few years!

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Grats finman

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Congrats FinMan! :beer:

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