What do you think about women in general?

[milagros]

isn't that about sex, not gender?

[Lukazz]

yes, but doesn't your "sex and gender correlation is 100%" imply, that there is a definite sex-category for everyone?

[milagros]

no

[Ruben]

no

Yes, it really does.

[milagros]

I don't see how A=B implies anything about whether A is binary

[Mats]

Is this what we call asynonyms, just like asynchronous

[Lukazz]

I don't see how A=B implies anything about whether A is binary

ok, if it doesn't, and the correlation between sex and gender is 100%, is there an intersex-gender or are all intersex-people either of male-gender or female-gender?

[Mats]

I believe all intersex people has a gender, but simply more hidden because of missing the defining factor. Anyway people can choose their own gender these days. It would be extremely strange if someone wants to be undefined.

[Ruben]

The problem here is that neither gender, sex nor sexuality is binary. We are ourselves, and that can involve a lot of different fuckery.

Well, except if you live in Russia. In Russia there are only straight male and straight female. Everything else is a myth.

[milagros]

I believe all intersex people has a gender, but simply more hidden because of missing the defining factor. Anyway people can choose their own gender these days. It would be extremely strange if someone wants to be undefined.

i've never defined my gender
nobody ever asked me and i didn't know till maybe 10 years ago that there is such "option"
i'm not sure what it means if i defined it - should i then piss in women's toilet if i defined myself as female-gender or what?
actually maybe i can't defined myself as female gender-ed, because "female" is only a social construct:)

[Mats]

what does your passport say?

[Madness]

yes, but doesn't your "sex and gender correlation is 100%" imply, that there is a definite sex-category for everyone?

What kind of logic is this? Of course the correlation is 100%, because gender roles and all that shit are based on your actual (or perceived) sex. If your sex is indefinite, then so are your gender roles etc. Sex and gender are the same thing, they just refer to different aspects of it.

[Ruben]

yes, but doesn't your "sex and gender correlation is 100%" imply, that there is a definite sex-category for everyone?

What kind of logic is this? Of course the correlation is 100%, because gender roles and all that shit are based on your actual (or perceived) sex. If your sex is indefinite, then so are your gender roles etc. Sex and gender are the same thing, they just refer to different aspects of it.

No and no. You can have a dick but have an indefinite gender. You have to stop thinking about it in a binary way, it's more like sliders.

[Madness]

That's where you are wrong. You confuse gender with gender identity.

Gender = "The state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."
Gender identity = "A person’s perception of having a particular gender, which may or may not correspond with their birth sex."

[Lukazz]

Then we were talking about different things I guess, because when I was talking about gender, I was talking about what you are referring to as gender identity.

[milagros]

what does your passport say?

there is sex, not gender

[Mats]

in norwegian there is only one word for it, so i got no idea whats the difference

[Bjenn]

Sweden also only have one wörd, it's "kön".

[roope]

I don't think there's separate words in Finnish either, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_g ... istinction

[farnsworth]

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