Does someone have some old Across tables?

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 9 Mar 2017, 12:28

Period.

umiz · Post by **umiz** » 9 Mar 2017, 12:33

Yes I printed some back in the 90s Ill scan them and upload when i come home from vacation.

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 9 Mar 2017, 12:42

umiz wrote:Yes I printed some back in the 90s Ill scan them and upload when i come home from vacation.

k thx

iCS · Post by **iCS** » 9 Mar 2017, 13:36

I don't think you are searching for this, but this funny fossilic piece of internet deserves a share:

http://motomen.tripod.com/

Last updated in 1999

but the site is still working, more or less.
There are records, news, interviews (even with Balázs!), etc.

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 9 Mar 2017, 14:39

iCS wrote:I don't think you are searching for this, but this funny fossilic piece of internet deserves a share:

http://motomen.tripod.com/

Last updated in 1999 but the site is still working, more or less.
There are records, news, interviews (even with Balázs!), etc.

lol, even I can beat teh records

Mats · Post by **Mats** » 9 Mar 2017, 16:49

I cant find my across, does anyone have it?

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 9 Mar 2017, 17:27

Mats wrote:I cant find my across, does anyone have it?

i have one, it has 76 levels, 3 users(one is till apple harvest, one till o&u and another to long haul), it also has some replays, the times are pretty noob tho.
May I send it to you?

xkcirm · Post by **xkcirm** » 9 Mar 2017, 23:53

http://elastomania.cz/across/best318.htm
http://elastomania.cz/across/best321.htm
http://elastomania.cz/across/best331.htm
...
http://elastomania.cz/across/best395.htm

enjoy!

Mats · Post by **Mats** » 10 Mar 2017, 00:58

That would be awesome

Sla · Post by **Sla** » 10 Mar 2017, 02:01

Approved post of new user xkcirm in case you didnt see it

kuchitsu · Post by **kuchitsu** » 10 Mar 2017, 02:35

Jesus Christ, 395 tables in how many months?

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 10 Mar 2017, 08:24

Mats wrote:That would be awesome

Ok, i'll send it in pm

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 10 Mar 2017, 20:19

kuchitsu wrote:Jesus Christ, 395 tables in how many months?

Same thoughts here. Quite frequent updates.

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 27 Apr 2019, 19:45

rebooting question bc elmastomania.cz is daed

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 28 Apr 2019, 11:58

quite lol that ics link, i go frame this discussion http://motomen.tripod.com/lukepexi1.html

xkcirm · Post by **xkcirm** » 2 Jul 2020, 12:45

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... UbkkB7IxBI

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 2 Jul 2020, 14:01

woah i never thought someone would notice this again

looks awesome, thanks a lot!
what happened to the orange/red times?

xkcirm · Post by **xkcirm** » 4 Jul 2020, 13:58

ArZeNiK wrote: ↑2 Jul 2020, 14:01 woah i never thought someone would notice this again
looks awesome, thanks a lot!
what happened to the orange/red times?

red and green columns are classic world records till elma wasn't realeased in 2000. red are still wr and green are already beaten.

orange columns are not verified times (cheated?). in begining Csaba wanted only state.dat but when state.dat was broken he wanted also see replays. in #316 he deleted all wrs which was not confirmed with replay. later he deleted also times like 14,95 driven by guy name The Man or even for me unknown Australian player Tier who drove 17,59 at flat track (Tier hold WR at level Freefall till now).

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 11 Jul 2020, 03:45

mrickx

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 7 Nov 2021, 14:24

umiz wrote: ↑9 Mar 2017, 12:33 Yes I printed some back in the 90s Ill scan them and upload when i come home from vacation.

any chance you still have them?

Post by **Abula** » 17 Nov 2021, 14:35

ArZeNiK wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 23:16 you know anyone that has some tables before #331?

I've got all since #337 + the unnumbered ones in History of Elasto Mania article + #315 (1998-12-10) and #321 (1999-01-06). If you have #331-336, please email to me? I've planned to upload all these + team logos to the Moposite Archive.

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 17 Nov 2021, 15:22

Abula wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 14:35
ArZeNiK wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 23:16 you know anyone that has some tables before #331?
I've got all since #337 + the unnumbered ones in History of Elasto Mania article + #315 (1998-12-10) and #321 (1999-01-06). If you have #331-336, please email to me? I've planned to upload all these + team logos to the Moposite Archive.

i thought you had more than that but looks like no one does anymore

attached below, i found 331 in wayback machine of balazs' old homepage (compuserve?), didnt find any others up to 337 tho rip
infact wayback machine helped me find almost all #337-#426 except for like 20 of them, from which i made wr history spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 2136174166
which is why im mainly looking for anything older, but ofc itll be nice to fill missing gaps too

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 2 Dec 2021, 11:34

awesome! i will upload my batch too once i get home, umiz sent me #336 and some other that i dont remember, and i think i found some more earlier that you dont have

Post by **Abula** » 2 Dec 2021, 11:37

Thanks!

I uploaded all the tables I found: https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr-table/

If you have more, please send! Missing tables: #001-#314, #316-#320, #322-#330, #332-#336, #345, #396, #400, #402-#417

According to your excel, you have #322, #323, #336, #405, #406, #410-#418?

#355 is coal, the highlight color was red in that table (https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr- ... e-355.html). Also I found four nick logos used in the history (DMC, Mr.Mikko, Mick0r, Ufo). They are in bonus material.

Three team logos missing: KDF, KoC, IAC.

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 2 Dec 2021, 11:43

Abula wrote: ↑2 Dec 2021, 11:37 Thanks!

I uploaded all the tables I found: https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr-table/

If you have more, please send! Missing tables: #001-#314, #316-#320, #322-#330, #332-#336, #345, #396, #400, #402-#417

According to your excel, you have #322, #323, #336, #405, #406, #410-#418?

#355 is coal, the highlight color was red in that table (https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr- ... e-355.html). Also I found four nick logos used in the history (DMC, Mr.Mikko, Mick0r, Ufo). They are in bonus material.

Three team logos missing: KDF, KoC, IAC.

#322 and #323 is numbers i made up for dated, but non numbered tables, adjusted to ones with both.
umiz posted some scanned tables to website: ume.land/Arzenik
and the rest i should have too, and will up

Post by **Abula** » 2 Dec 2021, 11:55

Great!

old5.gif ... old8.gif I seem to be missing as well?

Post by **Abula** » 2 Dec 2021, 13:07

I uploaded #336, mrickx's sheet and a more quality version of #321.

Current status:

Missing tables:

#001-#314, #316-#320, #322-#330, #332-#335, #345, #396, #400, #402-#417

Missing logos:

KDF, KoC, IAC

Arzenik has:

old5.gif, old6.gif, old7.gif, old8.gif
~#322, ~#323
#405, #406, #410-#418

Upload, please?

mrickx has:

#318, #332, #333, #334, #335, #396 (and #409-#417)

Upload, please?

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 2 Dec 2021, 14:10

https://up.elma.online/u/mjmeeimsqq/across%20tables.rar
old1-8.gif denotes those which i found on some cd and some of them are in article - elma forever, or elma ultimate, or sach, idk
old3,5.html and old3,6.html i found on some random sites linked from balazs' old across site
rest html are from moposite wayback machine, or possibly px site wayback machine a few of them, and 331 is from balazs' old across site too
321 and 336 are from umiz scan that i linked
and in wr history sheet, which i will now update, has some data from old moposite news by px, so maybe you cant find it on any actual table

also old7.gif has KoC logo but not animated

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 3 Dec 2021, 14:29

okay, i updated list a bit, now unnumbered tables old1-old10 present in excel page with exact date or approximation (via px news and other stuf) and links each, here gallery for all except old4 and old5, which are html files but u can find them in excel, https://imgur.com/a/PYxJvxl . i removed from that list the 11.01.1999 table, but its in the zip i sent earlier as old8.gif, i myself am calling it #323 now based on average time gaps between across wr tables and the fact that #321 was on 06.01.1999. maybe thats a stupid idea, feel free to disagree with it
and added a few WRs because turns out i accidentally ignored one of the tables you had in teh archive previously

Post by **Abula** » 3 Dec 2021, 19:11

Thank you Arzenik. I uploaded the new material to https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr-table

In an ideal world all the tables would use the traditional white layout.

Updated situation:

Missing tables:

#001-#314, #316-#320, #322-#330, #332-#335, #345, #396, #400, #402-#404, #407-#409

Missing logos:

KDF, KoC, IAC

mrickx has:

#318, #332, #333, #334, #335, #396, #409

Upload, please?

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 5 Dec 2021, 15:28

Found another old table on a random Czech site where it compares WR times to their team's. It says last updated 31.01.1999, which is 3 days before #331 (03.02.1999) according to mrickx. So I'm dubbing it #330, feel free to disagree. Attached below and updated the history.

edit: Another big addition to history, a news page by team ASC with 20 WRs: http://web.archive.org/web/199904271412 ... c/news.htm . This also lets me pinpoint the date of old10.gif to 1998 Nov 09.

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 5 Dec 2021, 16:57

Maybe i should be doing some homework instead of writing these posts

Anyway, found some old Hangman rec dating back to February 16 1998 on balazs site. I identified this as 18,78 by Kaje and therefore approximated old4.html and old5.html accordingly.
edit: okay, according to KGB site it's 18:72 by Trigger aka Dux, which is weird because 18:76 by Kaje was wr until august 1998 at least

idk, maybe they had wrong info, across timer showed 18:75 flower touch for my

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 9 Dec 2021, 14:21

been thinking of emaling Csaba, but idk if it would be a good idea/worth it

Stikky · Post by **Stikky** » 9 Jan 2022, 05:24

It can't hurt! I would be extremely curious to know what kind of stuff they might possibly still have laying around from that period. Please let us know if you have any success reaching them, and thank you for helping to get so many of these old tables found and archived!!

Post by **Abula** » 20 Jan 2022, 11:56

I just uploaded the 1999-02-03 WR table times page to Moposite Archive but I didn't include any table number because there wasn't such.

https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr- ... 02-03.html

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 20 Jan 2022, 12:41

nice!
emailing csaba might be a harder task than i originally anticipated, i think i'll just drop the idea for now

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 26 Feb 2022, 19:04

Found another old table in the form of a personal comparison. It is somewhere between old10 and #315, so I dubbed it old11. With information gathered from the news pages of moposite and ASC site, it can be dated to mid-November 1998. https://web.archive.org/web/19990202072 ... across.htm

Post by **Abula** » 15 Mar 2022, 07:35

Added: https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr- ... 12-10.html

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 15 Mar 2022, 17:06

#425 is missing from archive

Post by **Abula** » 3 Apr 2022, 07:54

ArZeNiK wrote: ↑15 Mar 2022, 17:06 #425 is missing from archive

Yea, I'll fix it when adding more newest tables. Now it's available here: https://moposite.com/records_across_425.php

But.

px found the oldest and fifth (or sixth?) oldest tables from his paper archives:

https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr- ... 97-12a.jpg
https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr- ... -02-14.jpg

I had to rename [...]1997-12.gif to [...]1997-12b.gif.

Also there is a confusion between 1998-02-14 and 1998-03-15 because the latter one has worse times but the dates are burned to the images so not very ez to resolve it.

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 3 Apr 2022, 09:11

Abula wrote: ↑3 Apr 2022, 07:54
ArZeNiK wrote: ↑15 Mar 2022, 17:06 #425 is missing from archive
Yea, I'll fix it when adding more newest tables. Now it's available here: https://moposite.com/records_across_425.php

But.

px found the oldest and fifth (or sixth?) oldest tables from his paper archives:

https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr- ... 97-12a.jpg
https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr- ... -02-14.jpg

I had to rename [...]1997-12.gif to [...]1997-12b.gif.

Also there is a confusion between 1998-02-14 and 1998-03-15 because the latter one has worse times but the dates are burned to the images so not very ez to resolve it.

SICK PX!!! thanks a lot to him
unfortunately balazs still hasnt answered my email (question of whether he/csaba has old tables), ill contact kalmard and see if he can help (its been over a month now)

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 7 Apr 2022, 10:30

Nice images

reminds me of some moposite print of a wr table that i took in 2000 or 2001, and then i kept crossing over times as i beat them over the years, until in som 2003 or so i had beaten all of them. It never was a goal to beat them it just happened accidently "oh i now have a better time on those couple levels" osv.

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 8 Apr 2022, 14:48

turns out #409 was right here the whole time https://moposite.com/archives/web_pages ... _wrs.shtml

Post by **Abula** » 22 Apr 2022, 10:56

ArZeNiK wrote: ↑8 Apr 2022, 14:48 turns out #409 was right here the whole time https://moposite.com/archives/web_pages ... _wrs.shtml

Added.

https://archive.moposite.com/across-wr- ... e-409.html

ArZeNiK · Post by **ArZeNiK** » 16 Jan 2024, 15:29

Bumping this tropic, feel like hunting for Across history again. Looking for old WR recs also!!
Current status of the tables can be summed up with these lines from my sheet:
Missing tables: #300-#314, #316-#320, #322-#330, #332-#335, #345, #396, #400, #402-#404, #407, #408
<Abula> i think csaba or someone once said that he started from #300 .. he just picked up some random number .. before that he updated without the table numbers
And the WR recs collected can be seen in the same doc. So far roughly 180/750 recs collected.