state editor

Wildburg · Post by **Wildburg** » 5 Jan 2004, 16:27

Hey there...
I have a question for you guys, but first I will tell you about the background for this question.
Here in the holidays I had 5 guys coming over for a elma-lan. We played elma for 10 hours, only internals. The winner of our competion was a guy called "4aces". he had a tt around 53. Not very good I know, but we suck. The problem is that he didn't have replays for all of his records, so I think he might have used a state.dat editor or something.
So my question is:
Is it possible to detect the use of state.dat editors??
Please mail me back. My friends and I are so mad on this guy, because we think he cheated (I know it's just a computer-game... But it's the best ever).

"Wildman"

dz · Post by dz » 5 Jan 2004, 17:11

long ago i heard someone saying it can be detected but generally its still thought that it can not, maybe milagros or someone can give you an answer. mine is, i dont know.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 6 Jan 2004, 13:30

If you have the stats.txt you can post it here, and we can see if it's times that would fit a 53 mins tt kuski. (Hope u know what I mean).

EasyGijs · Post by **EasyGijs** » 6 Jan 2004, 14:14

yes, you might also see strange top 10's like:
32:56
56:45
56:76
57:54
etc

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 7 Jan 2004, 09:01

if he uses good stateeditor -> undetectable

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 7 Jan 2004, 16:21

milagros wrote:if he uses good stateeditor -> undetectable

But if he uses that not so good one, ez'er detectable. But still if he uses good one, he might have edited 1:20 in lap pro, and that's not possible.

Wildburg · Post by **Wildburg** » 13 Jan 2004, 19:43

Milagros, do you have a program to detect the use of state edÃtors, or how is it done??
plz msg back... having a new lan this weekend with the same guys. Would be nice if I knew how to detect the editor, so i could bust him

Ky.Jelly · Post by **Ky.Jelly** » 13 Jan 2004, 19:49

why dont you just watch him, you must know how good he actually is, and yea post his stats.txt and someone will tell you if tehy are likely times or nat

Wildburg · Post by **Wildburg** » 13 Jan 2004, 19:59

I can't watch him all the time... and you can't tell a cheater from his stats.text, because not everyone plays the same level with the same style 10 times... take me. My Enigma time is 34:54, but the next best is 1:02:34, and I don't cheat

Ky.Jelly · Post by **Ky.Jelly** » 13 Jan 2004, 20:31

ye thats more to teh point, my tt is about 52 and my times are all up and down like that to teh max, someone better than me will make a better guess at that than me,
or play external levels instead, and say you have to save every best rec anyway

J-sim · Post by **J-sim** » 13 Jan 2004, 22:11

what about making him save replays this time? this really shouldnt be a big problem....

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 13 Jan 2004, 22:31

maybe he is just better than you. if he has a tt of 53 and really cheated chanxes are big he woyld have gotten much better tt. I bet he doesnt cheat, when I did my 1st wr I must have had over 1 h in tt. (couldnt finish aninal farm and soem other lev(s) I was too lazy to do)

Just have fun. Fun Fun Fun.
Once you play elma too much.. the fun might go away

Karlis · Post by **Karlis** » 13 Jan 2004, 22:57

ramone wrote: Once you play elma too much.. the fun might go away

...and still you continue playing...

Bonobo · Post by **Bonobo** » 20 Jan 2004, 16:30

Karlis wrote:
ramone wrote: Once you play elma too much.. the fun might go away
...and still you continue playing...

depending on what else you can do, but you're always coming back to elma