Vsync

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Aug 2004, 13:27

I have heard you are able to turn Vsync off, but how?

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 21 Aug 2004, 19:09

google for rivatuner if you have nvidia or ati radeon

dz · Post by dz » 22 Aug 2004, 18:06

Nvidia users can switch it on/off easily from display properties, if you have detonator drivers installed, just look for Direct3d settings.
Vsync = Vertical Synchronization

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 23 Aug 2004, 08:17

i have atis 9600 xt and i can simply switch vsync from display options, btw its one hell of a card for elma, great with xp, and if quicktime is on too, nothing can stop from improving your tt

Revolt · Post by **Revolt** » 23 Aug 2004, 10:56

wats it actually do?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 23 Aug 2004, 11:31

elma runs a bit different, different bouncing and so on
some tricks are easier, some harder

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 27 Aug 2004, 10:45

not advisable for n00bs apparently

i've heard stuff like, don't bother with it unless you're playing for WRs, get down to 40 min TT first, all bounces can be done with it on, etc etc

MJXII · Post by **MJXII** » 27 Aug 2004, 11:26

Bullshit! I don't have anything like 40tt and I find it incredibly useful even at my noob level

psteve · Post by **psteve** » 1 Nov 2004, 13:57

okaiz got rivatuner but i don't have a clue what to do. there are alot of options in the power user tab, and i don't want to go messing around. any help???

John · Post by **John** » 2 Nov 2004, 13:06

Search especially at Direct3d and OpenGL options.
Btw my elma lags a bit with vsync off, any tip? :S

Dariuz · Post by **Dariuz** » 3 Nov 2004, 10:32

tried elmaxp.exe? http://www.moposite.com/mopolauta/viewtopic.php?t=2646

AtmaWeapon · Post by **AtmaWeapon** » 3 Nov 2004, 11:59

I wouldn't use it if I were you. It can screw up your computer pretty bad if it crashes while you're playing etc...

dz · Post by dz » 3 Nov 2004, 13:00

Oh my, this is something happened to me at my dads place.

First of all, this is probably just a coincidence and I am not telling it has anything to do with this program.

So here's what happened, I was playing Silent Hill 4 and there was a location where the game would crash. So, I updated my nvidia gfx drivers and something odd happened which caused windows to not be able to install the new driver nor any other driver succesfully. Whatever I tried to do it would never work after computer restart even though it earlier said the install was complete. After quite some headache the system drive was formatted and everything ran fine again. It just came to my mind that I first time tested the elmaxp program earlier at the same time. But like I said, it probably doesn't have anything to do with the whole thing.

John · Post by **John** » 3 Nov 2004, 13:21

Dariuz wrote:tried elmaxp.exe? http://www.moposite.com/mopolauta/viewtopic.php?t=2646

seems like that program only works in xp, I have win98... but I fixed that lag thing but I cant use direct3d-vsync off, so just have to drive with openGL-vsync off, sux...

J-sim · Post by **J-sim** » 3 Nov 2004, 13:39

John wrote:
Dariuz wrote:tried elmaxp.exe? http://www.moposite.com/mopolauta/viewtopic.php?t=2646
seems like that program only works in xp, I have win98... but I fixed that lag thing but I cant use direct3d-vsync off, so just have to drive with openGL-vsync off, sux...

ok im no mr wiseguy at this but ehm changing your opengl preferences will not do anything to elma i think, elma runs in direct3d. am i right?

dz · Post by dz » 3 Nov 2004, 14:10

I think so too... but some guys seem to say it does, however, I think the help is inside their heads..

John · Post by **John** » 3 Nov 2004, 14:47

it must work at least a bit, cuz I had probs with hiflyerbounce, wheel just dragged and wouldnt bounce, changed g-card, changed opengl vsync off and made bounce in 5 mins and got 33.70. but I tested direct3d 2 days ago for first time and then I noticed the real difference, wasnt lagless tho as u know^

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 3 Nov 2004, 16:50

i can't switch vsync on/off so i don't care about this
(and i can't do hifly bounce - simply impsy)

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 3 Nov 2004, 17:07

Some time ago someone did a topic about vsync where someone put up a pipe level, and without doing a thing i did much better after turning of vsync in openGL.

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 13 Nov 2004, 15:53

It would be nice for a list of tricks to be made, telling after each one whether it's vsync on or off

Post by **Abula** » 13 Nov 2004, 17:39

Would be nice to get someone writing an article about it. Cloud but he doesn't bother :(. I have no knowledge.

psteve · Post by **psteve** » 13 Nov 2004, 19:40

sierra: that would be so helpful. i'll start: i think ff is done with vsync on. over and under with vsync off. uphill battle with vsync off. ziggy=off.

Revolt · Post by **Revolt** » 29 Nov 2004, 13:39

found vsync controls, noticed difference already, its nice

Crazy · Post by **Crazy** » 29 Nov 2004, 15:28

milagros wrote:i can't switch vsync on/off so i don't care about this
(and i can't do hifly bounce - simply impsy)

Me neither

Someone please tell what prog to use. And how to use it cuz I don't no nothing but how to hoyl the arrows in elma

dz · Post by dz » 29 Nov 2004, 19:02

For nvidia, just use windows display properties.

ELMA PRO · Post by **ELMA PRO** » 30 Nov 2004, 13:04

where in windows display properties? i went settings => advanced then there was something about hardware acceleration, was that it? it wasnt an on/off thing though, just a bar with 4 options

edit: just looked in another forum, they said to find openGL settings or something under the performance tab...i dont have that option...?

Revolt · Post by **Revolt** » 30 Nov 2004, 14:19

ok took me a while to find as well...

on desktop, right click -> properties -> settings -> advanced

then click on tab that says your graphics card, i think that is what it will say. you should have screen like this

then click on 'performance and quality settings' on the left. next you should have a drop down menu with a whole bucnh of games. go to the top thing in that menu, it says 'global driver settings'. click the 'add' button. you should now be at a window that says add profiles. like this:

click browse and open elma.exe. now check it from the list, make a profile name, like elma or elasto or whatever, and click 'ok'. now back at a old screen, check the 'vertical sync' box, uncheck the 'application controlled' box in setting value and drag the bar to whether you want vsync on or off.

i have only done this on my nvidia gforce fx 5200. i dunno whether its same for other video cards, try

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » 30 Nov 2004, 17:27

Didn't worked for my Geforce 2 MX

But thanks anyway.

Quinn · Post by **Quinn** » 30 Nov 2004, 21:51

Anybody knows how to change vsync off in GeForce2 MX/MX 400?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 30 Nov 2004, 21:53

how about changing it on nvidia?

Crazy · Post by **Crazy** » 30 Nov 2004, 22:04

For Nvidia: http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner
Though beware. I downloaded Rivatuner, pushed some buttons and ez the flashes now on screen. Though it doesn't affect my gameplay it surely screwed smth up. I guess that it's nuf for "not that skilled ppl" to just keep to v-sync. Just my advise

Thx for the tip whoever told me! But how do I get rid of these flashes

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 1 Dec 2004, 10:58

if you want i can make a complete list what vsync to use in each lev based on my own experiences, of course. Though, there are some hard cases such as lab pro, downhill etc. f.ex. luther got 2:19 sth with vsync on on lab pro and i got 2:18:0x with off, so I dont have a clue which is better then, mostly im an 'off fan' anyway

Post by **Abula** » 1 Dec 2004, 16:58

Zweq please do.

We could try to write some article about the whole issue, vsync.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 2 Dec 2004, 08:25

It really needs some explanitory (spelling?)

1. Define what Vsync is.
2. How It improves elma gameplay.
3. Which levels On/Off
4. How to turn off.
5. Which videocards are supported.

I know you canf ind some stuff searching on the internet, but a comprehensive txt should be better.

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 2 Dec 2004, 11:08

u is teh noab. nah but really, try installing newest catalyst thingie then display properties - settings - advanced - 3d - choosse direct3d and change TEH

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 2 Dec 2004, 11:10

tijsjoris wrote:It really needs some explanitory (spelling?)

1. Define what Vsync is.
2. How It improves elma gameplay.
3. Which levels On/Off
4. How to turn off.
5. Which videocards are supported.

I know you canf ind some stuff searching on the internet, but a comprehensive txt should be better.

I was only gonna write list based on my own experiences, no chance I start googling what cards support it

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 2 Dec 2004, 16:00

Quinn wrote:Anybody knows how to change vsync off in GeForce2 MX/MX 400?

With 66.93 drivers:

Display Properties -> Advanced -> GeForce2 MX/MX 400

Select Performance & Quality Settings in the left menu thingie
Vertical Sync is in the bottom of the list in the center menu in the window to the right.

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » 2 Dec 2004, 16:33

Hmmm...I also have Geforce 2 MX/MX 400, but there is no list

zworqy, where can I download those drivers?

Thanks.

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 2 Dec 2004, 18:03

Boomer wrote:Hmmm...I also have Geforce 2 MX/MX 400, but there is no list

zworqy, where can I download those drivers?

Thanks.

http://www.nvidia.com , of course

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » 2 Dec 2004, 22:12

Oh, didn't thought of that

The file is 17 mb. Way to big with my 56k modem

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 3 Dec 2004, 16:09

hmm does anyone know what to do with intel graphics card??

Another question.. by default, are vsync on or off??

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 3 Dec 2004, 17:46

Kopaka wrote:Another question.. by default, are vsync on or off??

it's "Program Controlled", which almost always means "on"

Wieloryb · Post by **Wieloryb** » 5 Dec 2004, 13:31

OK and how can I turn it off/on on ATI cards? I have radeon 9000pro, cat. 4.11. OK found it on myself. Just needed to use a dictionary

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 5 Dec 2004, 17:34

Zweq wrote:u is teh noab. nah but really, try installing newest catalyst thingie then display properties - settings - advanced - 3d - choosse direct3d and change TEH

Thanks!
I just noticed the vertical sync line..

Post by **SveinR** » 5 Dec 2004, 21:00

Maybe this http://steinsoft.net/index.php?site=Pro ... OpenGL/no7 can work for people without nVidia or ATi graphics cards.. Haven't tried it myself. Also, it's for Open GL and I guess elma is DirectX :/

Crazy · Post by **Crazy** » 13 Dec 2004, 09:18

I dunno if anyone has thought about this. But I can feel some changes in bike when changing from 1.11hb to 1.2. Anyone else who has noticed this?
I used to swap between different versions before I got rivatuner.

Behk · Post by **Behk** » 13 Dec 2004, 13:50

when I changed from 1.11hb to 1.2 I got my TT 2min down in 2 months or smth. maybe I got better skillz or it was elma 1.2

dunno what its gonna be

Revolt · Post by **Revolt** » 14 Dec 2004, 03:43

Boomer wrote:Oh, didn't thought of that

The file is 17 mb. Way to big with my 56k modem

i dont see why 17mg is too big for 56k modem. i have 56k and i have d/l 250mg files before....

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » 14 Dec 2004, 10:30

Revotl: Ok, maybe not to big... But my connection can be really slow sometimes

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 14 Dec 2004, 14:02

BarTek wrote:NOW when i turn on quicktime i have suhtenly vsync off. And when i turn of quicktime its back to vsync on.

ehm why?

That's because your videocard is set to turn vsync on and off depending on the program.