Iraq vs. USA
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bombs away peple, boi arnt i glad i live on the other side of the world, the only thing that will get me here is my mum wen she finds out that im up this late
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I don't understand why people is that stupid. (Bush and his other asses)
UN rule: Don't attack any land or anything if it isn't self-defence. USA have started more than 200 attack since 1945, but never been attacked themselves...
Why didn't the American planes go up the 11 sept, as they always do when a plane looses its course. They got order to NOT do that.
UN rule: Don't attack any land or anything if it isn't self-defence. USA have started more than 200 attack since 1945, but never been attacked themselves...
Why didn't the American planes go up the 11 sept, as they always do when a plane looses its course. They got order to NOT do that.
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what do think is the personal reason for bush to make war?
Help to organisations in usa (oil and stuff)
Help to usa (oil)
Help to usa (defence)
Help to usa (power and influence)
Help to iraq (democracy)
Help to world (kick saddam)
Anti terror war
To make people forget how he actually controls his own country (people loves a winner)
he dosent really care about iraq but he is president
He think that its the will og god
something else?
all these reason can ofcurse be mixed. for example could "help to world" be a mix of getting rid of sadam, getting democracy in iraq and anti terror war. basiclly i would like to what good to bush thinks that the war does?
hope someone have an idea
Help to organisations in usa (oil and stuff)
Help to usa (oil)
Help to usa (defence)
Help to usa (power and influence)
Help to iraq (democracy)
Help to world (kick saddam)
Anti terror war
To make people forget how he actually controls his own country (people loves a winner)
he dosent really care about iraq but he is president
He think that its the will og god
something else?
all these reason can ofcurse be mixed. for example could "help to world" be a mix of getting rid of sadam, getting democracy in iraq and anti terror war. basiclly i would like to what good to bush thinks that the war does?
hope someone have an idea
I didn't mention countries did I? And neither did you, in that context.zworqy wrote:9/11 was an attack by a group of psychos, not a country. And definately not Iraq.
Juk, this war won't help USA in an economic way at least. And I doubt it really will help USA in any other ways either, except for maybe oil.
well i guess oil and money is kind of the same.
The way the war can help usa economicly is becuase they have so much oil. When iraq dont have the same control of their oil usa could get some kind of monopoly. When iraq dont can sell its oil there would be lesser countries to buy oil from. Since fewer people sell oil so the prices of oil will increase and the nations with oil wil get more money every time they sell some. Or atleast thats what i heard. i dont know much about oil economics but i do know that its very complicated. The war will proberly give usa more control of the oil trades around the world.
The way the war can help usa economicly is becuase they have so much oil. When iraq dont have the same control of their oil usa could get some kind of monopoly. When iraq dont can sell its oil there would be lesser countries to buy oil from. Since fewer people sell oil so the prices of oil will increase and the nations with oil wil get more money every time they sell some. Or atleast thats what i heard. i dont know much about oil economics but i do know that its very complicated. The war will proberly give usa more control of the oil trades around the world.
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its not the usa only, it britain, spain and portugal as well, and other countries are helping in little ways, eg australia and france,zworqy wrote:Does ANYONE think U.S.A. is doing the right thing?
i think they may as well do it now, if not its going to happen in a few years anyway, no seems as good a time as any
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when troops went into to kosovo to have a war there it was NOT a UN sanctioned and kno one said a fuken thing, no just caus the americans are involved theres all sorts of protests and shit,
were these peple protesting wen pakistan and india were at war,
i think not,
some peple should just sit down and shut up, its not kool to only believe in something wen it suits you,
were these peple protesting wen pakistan and india were at war,
i think not,
some peple should just sit down and shut up, its not kool to only believe in something wen it suits you,
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Well it's good that they take Sadam away his so stupid, killed many etc...zworqy wrote:Does ANYONE think U.S.A. is doing the right thing?
And IF they have this bio-wepon it's not good( how did they get them, well around the Cold War and Kuwait war -91 it was alot Kemical shit research etc.. Russian & USA was doing that... some sourse is saying only Russian had things that could kill the earth 6 times...
well if they heave it's good that they take it..
But I HATE USA!!, why coulnt they w8 more for FN?
They mostley want the oil i bet!
They think they are mighty!
Many ppl will die... (cus of Sadam, Oil and MAYBE bio-kemical-wepons:\
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I don't understand the arguements for attacking Iraq.
-Take Saddam out.
-They may have bio-chemical weapons and may attack USA. No weapons found. Instead of taking the chance of being bomb, you bomb them out.
Every other state got bio-chemical weapons, but Iraq killed 5000 of their own habitants some ten years ago.
-Being hated of all over the world (except of the stupid peoples).
-And everything else.
Have you heard of Mike Strikes back, he's looking if USA have any bio-chemical weapons. But he got stopped at the ports.
-Take Saddam out.
-They may have bio-chemical weapons and may attack USA. No weapons found. Instead of taking the chance of being bomb, you bomb them out.
Every other state got bio-chemical weapons, but Iraq killed 5000 of their own habitants some ten years ago.
-Being hated of all over the world (except of the stupid peoples).
-And everything else.
Have you heard of Mike Strikes back, he's looking if USA have any bio-chemical weapons. But he got stopped at the ports.
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go saddam go!!
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My opinion
I have a feeling that I will be flamed for this but here goes..
I am for the war. I believe it is the right choise.
12 years ago Iraq went into kuwait. His own top-scientists ( who later fled and now live in different countries ) say that he was less than 3 months away from completing the nuclear bomb back then. They also had knowledge of his nerve-gas storages, which were huge.
An assasination-attempt on his life was conducted some years back. The people who were behind ( in collaboration with the israeli MOSAD )it were from a town with 12000 inhabitants ( I don´t remember the name of the town ). The assasinists failed. ( they ALMOST took out one his doubles, of which he has quite a few ) .. Today this town is no more. It has been levelled and the majority of the people who lived there were killed.
The kurds who revolted against him ( after the GULF-war, encouraged by the american president ) were butchered with nerve-gas.. He killed thousands upon thousands of his own people
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90 % of the iraci population live in deep powerty. One of my closest friends worked in Bagdad 3 months ago. He has told me that he saw people live in houses without roofs, on the street, die of hunger and dispair.
A normal coca cola ( in a can ) costs 0,75 $ in irac. The average iraci citizen earns 40 $ pr month.. the general prices are around 25 % lower then in denmark ( which are roughly the same as the rest of europe and USA ) ..
Furthermore, to get this "high" income people work 12-16 hours a day.. at least...
This is done solely for one reason.. If your people are excausted, there is less change for them to revolt.
Saddam Hussain has butchered his own people ever since he got to power. He has sent his own country into two senceless wars ( Iran and Kuwait ). He oppresses his own people. Thousand upon thousands are killed, just because he is scared that they could somehow make him loose power.
After the war with Kuwait, many resolutions were made.. Some stated that he had to let UN-inspectors search his country for nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. He later kicked the inspectors out of Irac, and systematically obstructed them in their work, while they were there.
He has basically been in contemt of these resolutions ever since he agreed upon them.
The inspection team who was in Iraq, prior to the war we have now, is Hans Blix. His team found thngs that Iraq weren´t supposed to have, ad things that didn´t exist, according to the list of weapons provided by Irac. On this list more than 2000 liters of nerve-gas has mysteriesly disappeared. Other things are also unaccounted for.
Hans Blix himself, when asked if he thought that Irac was hiding weapons of mass-destruction said . "I am almost sure of that"and then he laughed
I am not a fan of war in any way. It should be the last choice.
It brings death and dispair in its path
BUT
Saddam hussain has brought it for some many years already, and will continue to do so, as long as he is in power.
USA, BRITTAIN and DENMARK has sent troops to Irac. They are now trying to remove saddam. If you listened to what many refugees say when you talk to them ( if you have ever tried it yourself ) they want saddam removed. They DESPERATLY want him removed....
The perfect scenario would have been that USA didn´t back out after the war in kuwait. They should have helped the kurds as they intended in the beginning. This would have removed saddam many years ago.
I know that USA supporded the insurtion of him when he came to power, and the have even provided weapons to him while he was fighting Iran.. I don´t think that everything they do is right, and true.. NOT AT ALL, but... To remove saddam is needed... NOW. and it should have been done a long time ago
The war isn´t about oil. OPEC is the organisation who decides the prize of oil, not USA. OPEC has declared that the price on oil won´t change during the war. When the war is over OPEC will still be the orginasation who decides the prize on oil, NOT USA.
The income from iraci oil, will after the war go to a fund. This funds sole purpose is to rebuild and improve Irac.. The americans won´t benefit from iraci oil-money
... I could go on for days concerning this subject... but this was just a brief insight in my opinion..
if you feel the need, plz.. go right ahed and flame me
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I am for the war. I believe it is the right choise.
12 years ago Iraq went into kuwait. His own top-scientists ( who later fled and now live in different countries ) say that he was less than 3 months away from completing the nuclear bomb back then. They also had knowledge of his nerve-gas storages, which were huge.
An assasination-attempt on his life was conducted some years back. The people who were behind ( in collaboration with the israeli MOSAD )it were from a town with 12000 inhabitants ( I don´t remember the name of the town ). The assasinists failed. ( they ALMOST took out one his doubles, of which he has quite a few ) .. Today this town is no more. It has been levelled and the majority of the people who lived there were killed.
The kurds who revolted against him ( after the GULF-war, encouraged by the american president ) were butchered with nerve-gas.. He killed thousands upon thousands of his own people
--------
90 % of the iraci population live in deep powerty. One of my closest friends worked in Bagdad 3 months ago. He has told me that he saw people live in houses without roofs, on the street, die of hunger and dispair.
A normal coca cola ( in a can ) costs 0,75 $ in irac. The average iraci citizen earns 40 $ pr month.. the general prices are around 25 % lower then in denmark ( which are roughly the same as the rest of europe and USA ) ..
Furthermore, to get this "high" income people work 12-16 hours a day.. at least...
This is done solely for one reason.. If your people are excausted, there is less change for them to revolt.
Saddam Hussain has butchered his own people ever since he got to power. He has sent his own country into two senceless wars ( Iran and Kuwait ). He oppresses his own people. Thousand upon thousands are killed, just because he is scared that they could somehow make him loose power.
After the war with Kuwait, many resolutions were made.. Some stated that he had to let UN-inspectors search his country for nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. He later kicked the inspectors out of Irac, and systematically obstructed them in their work, while they were there.
He has basically been in contemt of these resolutions ever since he agreed upon them.
The inspection team who was in Iraq, prior to the war we have now, is Hans Blix. His team found thngs that Iraq weren´t supposed to have, ad things that didn´t exist, according to the list of weapons provided by Irac. On this list more than 2000 liters of nerve-gas has mysteriesly disappeared. Other things are also unaccounted for.
Hans Blix himself, when asked if he thought that Irac was hiding weapons of mass-destruction said . "I am almost sure of that"and then he laughed
I am not a fan of war in any way. It should be the last choice.
It brings death and dispair in its path
BUT
Saddam hussain has brought it for some many years already, and will continue to do so, as long as he is in power.
USA, BRITTAIN and DENMARK has sent troops to Irac. They are now trying to remove saddam. If you listened to what many refugees say when you talk to them ( if you have ever tried it yourself ) they want saddam removed. They DESPERATLY want him removed....
The perfect scenario would have been that USA didn´t back out after the war in kuwait. They should have helped the kurds as they intended in the beginning. This would have removed saddam many years ago.
I know that USA supporded the insurtion of him when he came to power, and the have even provided weapons to him while he was fighting Iran.. I don´t think that everything they do is right, and true.. NOT AT ALL, but... To remove saddam is needed... NOW. and it should have been done a long time ago
The war isn´t about oil. OPEC is the organisation who decides the prize of oil, not USA. OPEC has declared that the price on oil won´t change during the war. When the war is over OPEC will still be the orginasation who decides the prize on oil, NOT USA.
The income from iraci oil, will after the war go to a fund. This funds sole purpose is to rebuild and improve Irac.. The americans won´t benefit from iraci oil-money
... I could go on for days concerning this subject... but this was just a brief insight in my opinion..
if you feel the need, plz.. go right ahed and flame me
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i fully agree with you guyb
the only concern i have is that the americans(and allies) will do another half as job like as you mentioned in kuwait years ago,
they have had many a chance to take out suddam in the past its just that some high level politition has dropped his saks at the last minute, this could have been prevented years ago, but wasnt so i think these are the measures the world has to take
the only concern i have is that the americans(and allies) will do another half as job like as you mentioned in kuwait years ago,
they have had many a chance to take out suddam in the past its just that some high level politition has dropped his saks at the last minute, this could have been prevented years ago, but wasnt so i think these are the measures the world has to take
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Im against war in general, but this one was gonna happen whether people protest or not.
Seems like it'll happen sooner or later , so if it happens now, at least we know how it'll turn out...!
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onla that is some wack shit
only a couple of good frenchmen, one of them we are priviliged enuff to have him make mean as stuff
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GuyB, I'm not for or against the war, I just don't know. But you said Sadam killed so many people, so do you think there would be more deads when he stayed in power then now? All the civilians killed, maybe Sadam will use chemical weapons (if he has them) or there will be a civil war after the USA is finished. I don't know, but I think it depends on how good the americans try to solve the problem, I'm afraid they will just make war and after that, the Iraci's will never here of them again and they're gone for ever. (After that Iraci's will maby only earn $20 a month, since the beginning of the war the prices for food are doubled, cos transportation cost 5 times more, because of the risks of being shot/ killed by american cowboys, who want to shoot on all moving cars)
does anyone know from where can i get the iraqi wanted leaders play-cards ? those from the CNN... I want them !
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