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ribot · Post by **ribot** » 3 Nov 2002, 17:10

it's weird that this vsync function affects the elma physix, is it because of the vector based level? maybe the program could convert the levels to pixels instead then. im stupid :*

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 4 Nov 2002, 21:15

ribot wrote:it's weird that this vsync function affects the elma physix, is it because of the vector based level? maybe the program could convert the levels to pixels instead then. im stupid :*

it doesn't convert to pixels them at all

it's probably because of more processes (threads) running together with different priority
..ask hib, he probably knows exactly

Cna · Post by **Cna** » 5 Nov 2002, 00:26

I heard something about a guy that made a prog. so he could play in slowmotion..

Don't know if it's true tho

dz · Post by dz » 5 Nov 2002, 00:30

i heard some ppl saying they have been using slow motion for long time...

Post by **SveinR** » 5 Nov 2002, 17:23

You can play in slow motion in nitro, Cna

Cna · Post by **Cna** » 6 Nov 2002, 01:35

Yepp.. But i wasn't talking about Nitro tho

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 6 Nov 2002, 05:53

this talk goes into the cheat-topic but still, slowmotion would give reallly lot of help 'cause it'd make exact timing of movement a lot easier, and slow the required reaction speed. since doing nitro-stuff in normal game seems to be quite easy(hib stuff, eg lvl 55 through ; slesk replay with high acceleration ; etc), i'm fearing more than just a few ppl are using it to help improving their times (in wcup 2?..).. =//

Assassin · Post by **Assassin** » 8 Nov 2002, 06:02

Well i have a program that can make Elma run Extremley slow (you can pick the speed) and a program that can make it run fast (you can pick speed)

when u runm slow it also slows down the clock

i dont get much use out of it becaue im not to good.
but maybe pros can

i might distribute it amongst a small number of players

dz · Post by dz » 8 Nov 2002, 09:35

you just admitted you CHEAT!

Post by **SveinR** » 8 Nov 2002, 10:50

Assassin wrote:Well i have a program that can make Elma run Extremley slow (you can pick the speed) and a program that can make it run fast (you can pick speed)

when u runm slow it also slows down the clock
i dont get much use out of it becaue im not to good.
but maybe pros can
i might distribute it amongst a small number of players

This sounds very much like nitro, in fact, it sounds exactly like it

Assassin · Post by **Assassin** » 9 Nov 2002, 01:56

@ DZ

I admit, i only use it for personal gains/ doing cool replays and styles. Also i have never sent in a replay and i dont intend to.

@ the other guy (forgot name)

it isnt Nitro and it dosent corrupt replays its just a progrqam and it works on all versions

dz · Post by dz » 9 Nov 2002, 17:13

seriously.. i think this matter is quite important.

should we discuss about this cheat in own topic?

Assassin · Post by **Assassin** » 10 Nov 2002, 04:24

its up to you i dont care.
hey! where di my 32Comp.lev topic go!?!?!

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 10 Nov 2002, 04:25

it's not cheat to play nitro, we've all done it :*

Assassin · Post by **Assassin** » 10 Nov 2002, 04:27

dude it aint Nitro, it dosent even change Elma.Exe or any files..oops i shouldnt of said that... gives away to much clues....

i might give a screenie i dunno...

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 10 Nov 2002, 04:58

ok, but it's about the same harmless crime

Karlis · Post by **Karlis** » 10 Nov 2002, 09:24

since when cheating tools have been harmless?

dz · Post by dz » 10 Nov 2002, 09:56

harmless huh? i think im not the only one who would like to play hoylÃ¤levs with like 80-90% of normal speed, very long like temporarily faster, some parts slower. it's fast, it's alot easier, it's a damn serious cheat.

Post by **Abula** » 10 Nov 2002, 16:11

Assassin wrote:hey! where di my 32Comp.lev topic go!?!?!

Under correct forum >>

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 10 Nov 2002, 16:58

karlis: did u never play nitro? u think everyone that has played nitro should be banned?

Assassin · Post by **Assassin** » 11 Nov 2002, 05:14

Abula/Pexi am i allowed to post any screenies of the cheat program?

Karlis · Post by **Karlis** » 11 Nov 2002, 05:19

omg ribot, you can't be that stupid, this is way different thing than nitro

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 11 Nov 2002, 05:30

u just didn't get my point heheh

eL · Post by eL » 11 Nov 2002, 09:15

all cheaters must be banned, and even if they're supa pros, if they admit using cheats, they must be banned. Not forever, but perhaps for 2-3 WCup events

Assassin · Post by **Assassin** » 11 Nov 2002, 10:12

but the thing is, i cheat for FUN i dont take WR serious i have never sent in a replay and i never intend to, so ya can stop flaming me for cheating, because you probably think i cheat WR but i dont, i just cheat in my own time for the fun of it.

ciph · Post by **ciph** » 13 Nov 2002, 03:52

no. we DONT think you have cheated a wr.............................

ribot, people should not be banned for nitro because it is harmless, since it adds 10min to the time.

but this program he uses seems to not add any time and it is a serious cheat k.

dz · Post by dz » 13 Nov 2002, 13:12

i wonder what's really going on, bcuz obviously, abula is keeping very low profile with this new cheat tool. only one or two comments which doesn't even have any opinions. maybe they are trying to develop detectors, maybe they just don't care. who is they ? u know.

Post by **Abula** » 13 Nov 2002, 15:30

At least I don't care much:

1) I'm so fed with these new cheats, every month some new one.
2) I don't like stuff related to programming anti-cheating and detecting cheats, MGen could be some official anti-cheat guy.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 24 Nov 2002, 00:14

i wasn't playing for last two days and i made very nice chaeted steppes in 11.8x
i bet abula can't detect it
but i can
so maybe i'll be official anti-cheat0r guy:)

and i have some cool new ideas how to cheat
and of course how to detect it

somebody should program that save-load
i think i'll be able to detect it too (if it weren't really perfect)

Alexey · Post by **Alexey** » 24 Nov 2002, 00:19

Wow!
It'll be cool

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 24 Nov 2002, 01:10

i tried to merge it with dd's and it's a little seen
there should be one more frame:) (0.03s)
anyway it's possible it those 11.xx

..btw i wonder how does that elmareplayer works
when i run it with 1000 other aplication i managed to run it a few times that way that kuski in dd's replay got the apple (instead of flower) (in 12.16)
i tried to put last frame at the end 20 times and it never get the apple on the fast comp
..hmm there is something strange about that....

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 24 Nov 2002, 16:22

just made flattrack in 16.64

no sign of cheating there

...hmmm almost
...detect0r is next