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zebra

AFAIK the collision scripts use type double. So bike is going to act differently each time you execute the same moves sequence. In that case any kind of macro/neural network or howsoever it's called is not going to work. I don't know if you are already aware of this issue. What collision scripts ar...

zebra

I had to change the point formula in event 3. Now it rewards you more if you get one apple more. I'm sorry about this and this change wasn't planned.

zebra

Lukazz wrote:this cup is a bit like the mopoco levs, i like that!

yep the new lev is up. And the same idea as in one of the mopoco levels, yes. Astral won the 2nd event, congratulations once again.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/zebra/bananacup4.html

zebra

You should ask the code from milagros. He has made quite many additions to the game and probably already knows the source code by heart. But I think he has to code it in assembly because balazs hasn't given the original source code. And btw, there has been a similar kind of topic earlier. It was an ...

zebra

someone move this to polls please!

zebra

why so stupid replies to such an intelligent post? I know it should be theoretically possible to make an optimal elma player but really really hard... Those scientific papers you showed... such hard formulas even for such an easy things as driving a bicycle. So for a very complex game like elma, tho...

zebra

Banana Cup 4 will have several events where you have to be present at the time when the event is held (a battle event) or at least when it is started (first finish event etc.). Which weekday evenings would be the best choise just for you?

We might or we might not comply to the results of this vote.

zebra

Have you ever dreamed of a cup which wouldn't be so severe and where you could only cruise through the levels and get much points? Do you feel the ordinary cups are boring and conservative? Would you like to have more variation in the events? Would you like to participate in a funny cup like Kahvi C...

zebra

OtorK wrote:So you can create GAA2009 topic now..

hmm, not so bad idea. People could start posting their suggestions already

zebra

is this him: http://kalesaircargotrucking.com/Corpor ... StaffID=16
another alternative: http://fens.mdc-berlin.de/shoty/?action=show&id=14

zebra

The idea given by zebra would be max fun to play. That free practisetime just is not needed. Like in onelifes or first finish battles, you cant know how to play, you have to have good maplooking-skills etc. If you die, you of course would try again before the first-finisher-player gets to flower. O...

zebra

or with 1280x800. Should be good reso for elma with 1xzoom and then both of the numbers are half of the screen's native resolution so probably the pixels won't blur.

zebra

Smaxa, your system is too complicated. No need for any Tournament points (if you meant that battle = tournament). Also the points given in a round would be different thing than the ranking points/experience points shown in the web site. The round points would be given just to see the positions in th...

zebra

Jappe wrote:did you come up with that urself? because there is exactly the same system in trackmania, its very fun mode though id like to see it in belma too

Good guess. I got the idea from trackmania.

zebra

A new idea came to my mind: Rounds mode - all the players would start at the same time like in onelife battle - top 10 would be given points: for example 10 points for the winner, 9 points for 2nd etc. - when first player finishes the round, there would be for example 30 secs time for other players ...

zebra

Yep, this is indeed a good idea, if it's implemented well. If state.dat uploading is possible, this could be the replacement of moposite records-section. I remember we discussed about this with Abula some years ago and he had big plans which features the new records-section would have. As we all kno...

zebra

Vist wrote:Not strange seeing jaytea not winning battler since noone in the jury plays belma alot. "Let's go for the safe choise, Zweq".

That's not true. We all play belma quite a lot I think and I have seen zweq playing battles. It's almost unbelieveable how good his battle winning recs always are.

zebra

zebra if you got the energy for it, could you split the stats into weekly (or daily/monthly) segments too so we could get some trends visible, like for example i'd like to see how much my winning % has gone up since 2007 and a graph showing average weekly win% over 2 years would be a really interes...

zebra

Yea, ignore the rankings. There shouldn't be anything wrong with the formulas but seems that everything we got is weird results...

zebra

I made the stats, enjoy

http://koti.mbnet.fi/zebra/battles.html

More info there.

zebra

I think that's one of the stupidest feature of all windows versions. It should show the extensions by default.

zebra

Okay I tried coding this system, you say that you should start with 0 points, but that way you get very little points in the for a long time. On test server the one with most points has 0.35 (to compare he has 69 with old school battle points). Ofcourse it will be better when it's open for everyone...

zebra

Jappe wrote:very cool 8o
cant wait to see some stats ~

don't hold your breath.

But I'll make them some day.

zebra

Do you have your elma folder under Program Files? If yes, vista file virtualization could cause of the problem.

zebra

hmm, I could look into that if I first got the complete #ballelma logs from the past 2 years.

zebra

Ok, I finally had time to search my old Mikrobitti magazines and scan the interesting pages. Here is the result. In mikrobitti magazine number 10/97 there was a review of Across 1.1: http://koti.mbnet.fi/zebra/Mikrobitti_1997_10.jpg In the next magazine, 11/97, across was the most downloaded file of...

zebra

But that performance isn't so spectaculous, even I could sing it better. i really don t like this holy night performance. Obviously you are fucking tone deaf :evil: AYEH there is no bigger problem with the tone, I dont see(hear) what zebra is on about. maybe he has adopted the jappe2 thing of sarca...

zebra

btw antz, how do you make these levels? I mean technically? Or is it a secret?

zebra

About those antz levels, they are very great. Especially the styles and the recs are amazing. The only bad thing in those is that they are really hard. I updated the rec pack so that it contains all the levs which were missing. Antz, about ecchi levels, could you upload them here so that we could se...

zebra

not a single ecchi level made the cut :f? and antz483 but not 485 or 497 or 551 =/? wonder if you had more than 10 levels to check from, from me ._. should i have uploaded them all somewhere or was antz483 really the only one worthy? i mean, there's 40 zebra levels and maybe 2-3 per designer of oth...

zebra

Xiphias wrote:lol at some of the replays =D

olp28.lev is missing in the Replays pack but is in the Level zip
just wanted to state that

Ye there might be something missing because I made the packs very quickly. Sorry about that.

zebra

Mawane wrote:i dont get why my botch556 is in the pack, did you make a mistake? this was just random bad lev

I think it was zworqy who liked the level, so it's in the pack.

zebra

Lukazz wrote:WTF why does it include recs of Vodim and Zordan (or whatever their names were)?!?? as far as i know these recs are cheated. o__O

oh ye ignore them, they won't be nominated.

zebra

I just reached 300th battle level and updated my pack here: http://koti.mbnet.fi/zebra/levels.html
Or you can get the levs directly from here: http://koti.mbnet.fi/zebra/z0001-z0300.zip

zebra

I guess we are 90% done now. I collected best levs and recs into zip files and uploaded it for you so you can already start wondering which one to vote. But keep in mind that only 10 of these will be nominated in 3rd phase which means that your favorite might be out... or there might be some surpris...

zebra

Christmas is approaching fast, which is your favorite christmas carol? Mine is definitely "O Holy Night". Actually I think it's one of the best songs of all time, even though I'm not really religious at all. Just listen to this amazing performance: http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=bDJswZqY2W...

zebra

you are so negative and don't trust ppl

zebra

Zweq, could you be my personal trainer?

zebra

At least in trackmania that isn't a problem. Someone sometimes makes a ban vote but i have never seen such a vote to pass. If someone tried to ban zweq, it would really need 60 % of the people to say 'yes'. I guess there are always more than half of the people who are sane and would vote 'no'. Inste...

zebra

I think western's idea is good. If 60% of people agreed that a player should be banned, then he definately deserves his ban. The ban could be something like a day or a week, not longer.

zebra

because we don't want to step on anyone's toes that's why no one else runs it. And when I say abula running it i mean the moposite staff aka (px, abula, svienr) That's the reason why I haven't already organized it. Last year I remember same kind of conversation about the next world cup. But we (TAP...

zebra

Zweq wrote:nice zeb didnt know you were elma beta tester!

i count across as elma beta version :]

zebra

i realized that i haven't introduced myself so here it comes...

Hi all! I'm a zebra from finland and i have played elma only for 10 years so far.

zebra

Anyone who's a current subsciber for Mikrobitti could check out these articles and take a screenshot? I checked those articles and they only have elasto mania in the list of 'most downloaded games' and no other references to elma, so they are kinda useless. It seems that they only have online magaz...

zebra

Should add "common sense allowed" ;) Anyway, not sure what we're doing about teams yet no. Any ideas are welcome (: The team system could be like in moposite, if not directly from there (i guess not if the players are not from there either). One player makes a team and can add/remove play...

zebra

3.1 Starting a battle on the same level more than once hmm... this means that internal battles are forbidden, even 24htt battles and such :) 3.2 Starting battle in levels created by somebody else What's the problem here? If the level is new for everybody. Like, if your brother had made some levels ...

zebra

well i don't like the trackmania nations system so much. it wouldn't be nice for belma at least i think, because there are not so many players. in trackmania you can't get points, if there are no higher ranked ppl on the same server. in elma that would be kina boring because let's say zamppe is num...

zebra

But in trackmania it works so that you have to be present in the start of the battle to get points. That would, at least, suck. I guess we all can agree on that. I agree on that. But you (all of you) should really try to download trackmania nations forever (it's free full game) and see how well the...

zebra

Kopaka, some things: the battle experience points (seen here: http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=ranking) are still called Kinglist here: http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=players&k=Jappe2 which is wrong because as we agreed, kinglist is different thing. the chat here: http://elmaonline.moposite....

zebra

well... you can just keep it simple then. you can make the stats like they are done at the olympic games: 1st player: 6 no1s, 17 no2s, 3 no3s 2nd player: 3 no1s, 19 no2s etc 3rd player: 0 no1s, 64 no2s etc. etc etc. so no more ratings or points, it only matters the places. ez. ps: some guys will do...

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