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I just looked at http://www.elastomania.com/ and noticed there's an iOS version available that seems to have been published very recently.

Has anyone tried it? Are there any screenshots available? Does the physics engine feel the same?

I don't have any iDevices so I can't test it.

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bene, I'm sorry that you got such a bad impression for this project :( I was interested and asked to join back in 2012/2013 when dev was active. The response I got was fuck off. As far as I can remember, you asked to be able to "listen in on the technical discussion". Back then I interpret...

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Also what the community really has been needing are few little updates on EOL, and some features have been longed for for the last 7 (or even 14) years already. 2 mans were able reproduce elma fizics (in 2 different wayS), but no progress hav been made on what the community truly needs. ye ye fuk y...

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Thanks for that video, I got the bug now too. It seems to happen when "Follow driver" is unchecked and "Multi spy" is checked and multiple players are selected. I'll fix this one in the next update. For example, this happened when I was making Sanpo002.lev: I saved the level with...

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I just had a crash when I accidentally merged a probably invalid polygon (it has two vertexes on the same point) if you try to edit a grass polygon with the vertex tool, it acts very strange and messes up the whole polygon. Thanks, fixed these now. Just a note - when editing a grass polygon with ve...

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edit: One thing which I would like to be able to turn off, is the topology check on undo. Sometimes I have lots of overlapping polygons etc while i make levs, so if I have to use undo I get lots of red squares all over lev which are very distracting. Maybe also a button like "ignore current to...

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Updated, changes: -SLE: Added "Import level(s)" function. -SLE: Added "Save as picture" function. -SLE: Added free selection mode. -SLE: Added option to show crosshair. -SLE: The inactive edges of grass polygons are hidden. -SLE: In pipe tool, radius can be adjusted with Page Up/...

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@Xiphias: Thanks for those detailed reports. I actually remember seeing the radius bug but I had forgot it. @Labs: The bug you're getting is unfortunate; we just can't reproduce it. @dawid: Thanks for that report; it might indeed be a bug if EOL behaves differently. Has anyone had any problems on Li...

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A year has passed and it's time for a new version. For the first time, Linux users can try too :) So there must be a lot of new features, right? Well, for the user, not really. Why? Almost all available time has been spent on improving the current code, setting up the build system and making support...

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I think it sounds reasonable to have an update on 27.4.2014 (or before). New version will be up tomorrow (or, well, today... it's past midnight). using ubuntu 12.04 LTS with 32 bit on notebook and 64 bit on desktop. At first there's binaries for 32-bit only, but 64-bit version will be available too...

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Updated. Changelog: -SLE: Selected vertices are now preferred when two or more vertices are under mouse pointer. -SLE: Added a shortcut key for copying (Ctrl+C). -Bugfix: SLE: Level width and height must be < 188, not <= 188. Minor fak: ctrl+a doesn't select start. Hehe, didn't remember to fix this ...

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You already can drag a line (or lines) by first selecting the corresponding vertices (rectangular selection is the fastest way I guess). And to drag the whole polygon you would have to point at its insides. This might not be good in practice - usually you want to begin a rectangular selection by cli...

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I think it sounds reasonable to have an update on 27.4.2014 (or before). Even though there are not that much new stuff from user's perspective. Perhaps the biggest new "feature" is Linux support. Some questions for Linux users: - What distributions are you using (Fedora, Ubuntu, other)? Wh...

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Two requests: Increase the session timeout/length. It's annoying when I'm writing a post and when I press Submit, it requires me to log in because I didn't do anything for a while. Allow PMs to be sent to more than 5 people at a time. Something like 20 should be enough if there has to be some limit.

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Will bug bounces get fixed? Rumor says normal bounces and bug bounces are distinguishable in the physics and bug bounces could be fixed. Is it true? Bug bounces will get fixed if 1) they can be fixed in a clear way and 2) people want them to be fixed. Fixing bug bounces might break compatibility wi...

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Fixed this ellipse bug, thanks. The loop for creating the ellipse sucked a bit...

Improved also the update procedure slightly.

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Reproduced when I deleted the settings file, thanks. I updated, but you probably have to download manually because the day of the update is the same.

I will probably push a "blank" update tomorrow to make sure everyone gets the latest version.

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Ok thanks, I updated now. Let me know if you still get some errors.

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Damn, can you post example lev files in which this happens?

If this is unfixable, I will revert back to the old algorithm.

You have the two new dll files (GeoLib and GeoPolygons) in Elmanager directory, right?

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Any of 360 degrees direction gravity, with an arrow both in editor and visible on apple while playing This might be quite simple to make; I think the physics engine passes a vector in the gravity calculation function instead of just a discrete value in the set {up, down, left, right}. Optional inst...

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Not so far, as far as I know. jonsykkel's 7z has some PNGs, but those look exactly like the PCX/TGA versions (number of unique colors in each picture is less than 100).

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Elma 2 is still being worked on :) Most of the changes lately have been refactoring (organizing code better), and most of this refactoring has happened in November/December (but there has been some activity every month since April, except October). So from the user's perspective, not much has change...

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I tried to check out a few levels beginning with 's' or 'm' from these 2092 Across levels (I had these on some random CD), but couldn't really find a tank. Maybe you can take a look yourself if you find anything. All those levs are from the 1990s. According to their timestamps, the newest was modifi...

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Yep, you just have to select all the players from the list, like this: http://i.imgur.com/qRa7rP1.png

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Lousku correct - and for 2, you need to set an LGR file for the lev editor in rendering settings.

Another possibility is that the pictures are hidden - see the "Visibility" category in rendering settings.

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Thanks for this report, I'll see what I can do about them when I have some time.

EDIT: Updated now, see changelog. I didn't fix all of the bugs you mentioned yet, but many anyway.

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Use these keys: http://i.imgur.com/pMHvjLf.png (not the numpad ones, that is).

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also is your bot (you) present there all the time? seems not No, it all depends on the uptime of the uni's Unix machine. I may get disconnected sometimes, but it doesn't happen too often. gonna add date time stamp as well for the search results? possible to read more lines before and after the sear...

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IRC realtime channel log for World Cup 6.

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As I got a slightly better internet connection yesterday, I uploaded this to MEGA: elma_ultimate_2010.iso

To make sure you downloaded it without errors, calculate the MD5 hash of the file (with HashCalc, for example). It should be:

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c295f2b2cc0a8861c80e1e410dd44ae9

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I decided to put the update checkbox enabled by default because it's simply more convenient that way - if the checkbox was off by default, some people might not notice it at all and never get updates. Another way to handle the situation could be that Elmanager would ask on first time startup how to ...

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There has been a voting system in belma, no? And to be honest I can't see why a designer couldn't abort his own lev :< After all mistakes happen. Voting system in Belma? No, as far as I can remember. About aborting own lev - maybe this could be a separate privilege that could be revoked if someone ...

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EOL2 icon competition One of the most important pictures in EOL2 is its icon, i.e. the picture that is displayed by the operating system. So now, we launch a competition for creating an icon for EOL2. The rules are as follows: Anyone with a Mopolauta account can participate. Don't include the text ...

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Fixed a bug. Thanks to Mawane for reporting it.

Plus, all files are now in one zip file to make it simpler.

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i absolutely want the linux version asap Good news is that Elma 2 really works on Linux :) Joey managed to compile Elma 2 for Arch Linux about two months ago: http://users.jyu.fi/~mikkalle/Elma/elma2_archlinux.png We haven't released any Linux version yet because we don't have a proper build system...

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The "randomness" occurs because the timestep parameter that is passed in the physics function is not constant. EOL's FPS limiter doesn't make it constant; it just gives it a maximum value somehow (I have not looked how it functions exactly). I wonder how would it look at 1-2 fps play. If t...

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all these files crash when starting them elma2.exe elma2_d.exe elma2_log.bat This got resolved already (he forgot to delete options.dat). Labs: very strange bug... hopefully we can reproduce that so it could be fixed. Xiph: Bug 2 was kinda known, I agree that it doesn't make sense to hide the playe...

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It has been about 4 months since the previous version. Many bugs have been fixed and some new features added, so it's time for a new version. Download here . NOTE : You need to delete the options.dat file because the options format has been changed. It will crash otherwise. This is a bit annoying bu...

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Nice, didn't remember the LGR kit.

Yes you can make higher-resolution images than the original. I think there will be a mechanism for telling the "actual size" of an image in level, so it won't look huge/tiny if it has big/small pixel dimensions.

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As EOL2 will support 32-bit graphics, it would be nice if someone could start converting some existing LGR(s) to 32-bit. For the default LGR, it could go simply like this: Download LGR kit . Convert the TGA files to PNG. The PCX files have lower quality so you can delete them. Edit the PNG files. Pu...

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IRC channel has been changed (again) because of lost ops. It's now #new_elma. The new channel has a re-opping mode in case everyone loses op, so it shouldn't be necessary to switch channel anymore.

So leave the old channels (#new-elma and #newelma) and join the new one.

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@Tigro: I tested that just now, the ride just ends as if the player died. Maybe there could be some message telling what happened (but this is not related to lev format anyway).

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Oops sorry, I didn't see your question until now because I guess you edited the post afterwards. Anyway, your suggestion has been discussed before. The only thing that would be somehow possible to show is whether gas is being pressed for each frame. It would not be very accurate because frames are s...

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About arrows in flag tags: yes, good idea.

@Xiphias: When some more of the current bugs are fixed and some new features added. It's just useless to release a new version if there's not much new to test.

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I don't know about this. Implementing something like "central image" just because we want some sun in the background sounds questionable. Would there be any other use cases? Can we not just leave the sun out from LGRs? :) And how far should we go trying to imitate real life environment? Yo...

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Animations sound like a good idea (objects are already animated, so why not other pictures?).

Animated pictures should definitely support 32-bit colors too, so GIFs are out of the question. APNGs or MNGs are probably the way to go.

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Updated wiki, added Level format section: http://wiki.elmaonline.net/Elma_2 Added also two Jappe's suggestions: Option to force apples to be taken in a specific order. Set weights for apples (and allow finishing when the total weight of collected apples is at least equal to a specified limit). This ...

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Well yeah, I meant exactly that: the SVGs would need to be converted to high-res PNGs manually, and then those would be saved in LGR (unless we start using some SVG library that can parse SVGs). It could work like that, too - I don't know if there's some performance penalty involved. Maybe mipmaps c...

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I'm not sure about chosing initial angle and direction of the kuski. The direction doesn't really affect anything but angle... Figuring out how to volt/gas/brake at start to get to the right position is one of the challenges of many levs, that would be ruined :/ As Lousku said, nothing would get ru...

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What kind of additions should there be in EOL2 level format (compared to original Elma)? Some initial thoughts: New polygon type: texture polygon. It would be possible to select texture for this polygon, and also whether it is solid (like ground polygons) or hollow (like normal pictures and textures...

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