How to get Recsource up again

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How to get Recsource up again

Post by Ramone » 7 Jan 2020, 12:15

Is there someone with a kind heart and proper dedication for our game out there who could take over Recsource from Ville and keep it running? I know there is, luckily our scene are full of people like that :) But who?

Would it help to get some money? I would gladly pay 10E/month for such a contribution. I do not know technical stuff with computers and servers at all, and I am do not know what was making site keep failing in the past, server?

Either way I would be very happy to get some basic understanding to what would be needed to make it happen, and what possible challenges a project like this could face.

zamppe site is cool but no fullscreen, doesnt work well at all on phone, and I have no idea how to find recs there.

Is it a monthly cost we need to cover? Or is it more a situation where we would need to collect money for a one-off donation to get things running?

Anyway, of all the sites, apps and features the internet provides Recsource is by far the one I miss the most. For me personally Elma is abit hard to handle, with me being all or nothing regarding almost all events in my life. So all periods where I were not playing I was always keeping up with RS. Also amazing cause can watch recs so nice even without elma. And its amazing good to show people you meet irl when talk about life and what you are into, so good to show how the game works. Finding EDQ on youtube and show is not even close. Also you cant keep up with scene watching EDQ every week.

I know I am not the only one missing it. So, how would we go about this?
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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by ArZeNiK » 7 Jan 2020, 14:29

i think the new eolsite recplayer covers everything that recsource could
as for the recs themselves well...
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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by pawq » 7 Jan 2020, 17:25

The rs rec database is backed up and possible to bring back up, and iirc it could even be possible to resurrect old links. As arze said, the goal is for elma.online to replace rs and zs completely. It already has most basic recsource features implemented, but of course the website is far from finished...

Contributions on github welcome!

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by AndrY » 7 Jan 2020, 17:40

would be good to save all the votes and comments from rs too.
really rs system was perfect, mb make the same in elma.online?
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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by Hosp » 8 Jan 2020, 03:39

I would also be willing to pay, but not a lot. Living on student money atm (aka, money that is not mine)
It was my fav website, in functionality and looks. Although small improvements possible. (Like settings, playlists osv.)
Was such sick.
But I hev no say ofc, I cannot do these web-magics.
I would like to see a recsource resurrection more than I would an Oasis reunion, really.)
It was great while it lasted though, VJ should be proud :)
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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by Kopaka » 8 Jan 2020, 08:52

Replays on elma.online is the future, so if there's anything you think is missing please give this feedback and be specific. Of course contributing with actual code would be optimal, but if you can't do that giving feedback is also very valuable and something we get very little of.

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by Zweq » 8 Jan 2020, 11:12

Ramone wrote:
7 Jan 2020, 12:15
zamppe site is cool but no fullscreen, doesnt work well at all on phone, and I have no idea how to find recs there.
- no fullscreen because it's not needed imo
- doesn't work well on phone because the site is intended for desktop use. Imo if you go to recs.zamppe.com with phone you realy need to re-evaluate your life
- how can't you find recs? what are you trying to do?
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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by iCS » 8 Jan 2020, 12:22

- no fullscreen because it's not needed imo
hope just joking, full screen very needed.
imagine elma videos were made in quarter screen size

i don't really like the default zoom on either sites, first thing i do when watch rec is zooming out 2-3x (or going fullscreen on elma.online)

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by Henkka » 8 Jan 2020, 14:22

IMO elma.online just needs the following things:

- Rec search by level, kuski and designer
- Commenting possibility

Recs.zamppe is great. Just would add commenting there as well.

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by iltsu » 8 Jan 2020, 15:38

I watch recs only with phone, so imo very important that its not just for desktop. Recsource was perfect.

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by Zweq » 8 Jan 2020, 17:06

oke, interesting feedback.

it's not a good idea to develop recs.zamppe.com further though, it was always intended as a quick&dirty implemented demo site. New elma site recplayer has so much more potential because it has a direct access to eol database, so it's poss to implement features that are impsy or very annoying to implement to a 3rd party site.
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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by ROKKEBOL » 8 Jan 2020, 17:43

PLs make grass/pics hidden by default on zamppe/elmaonline or mb add cookies for that.
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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by Fejm » 10 Jan 2020, 02:17

imo voting + top rated recs was very coal features
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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by Kopaka » 28 Jan 2020, 14:08

I've tried adding those things mentioned here to https://elma.online replays: comments, rating, download .rec, search for replay name in search bar, search for kuski by going to kuski page, search for level by going to level page, some mobile optimizations.

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by pawq » 28 Jan 2020, 18:08

Kopa for president :beer:

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by SveinR » 28 Jan 2020, 18:58

Kopaka wrote:
28 Jan 2020, 14:08
I've tried adding those things mentioned here to https://elma.online replays: comments, rating, download .rec, search for replay name in search bar, search for kuski by going to kuski page, search for level by going to level page, some mobile optimizations.
Very nice! But - seems eol locked levels are available for download and search from the site? Pretty sure levels I have always had "new levels locked" setting on are available there.. would be nice if someone could confirm or deny.

Edit: Maybe I'm wrong and they're just searchable but not downloadable.
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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by pawq » 28 Jan 2020, 20:54

They seem to be undownloadable, but yea, ideally should be filtered out in search.

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by kuchitsu » 29 Jan 2020, 19:04

What's the difference between TAS and Modded? (if they are even related)

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by danitah » 29 Jan 2020, 20:28

kuchitsu wrote:
29 Jan 2020, 19:04
What's the difference between TAS and Modded? (if they are even related)
Probably same, but duno what you are referring to, no mentions of 'modded' in topic before you.

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by pawq » 29 Jan 2020, 22:04

This I guess (elma.online):

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TAS is tool-assisted run, so could be with saveloading, fps changes, and stuff like that, but using the original unmodified physics engine
Modded is for recs made using a modified physics engine, for example nitro

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by iCS » 29 Jan 2020, 22:06

kuchitsu wrote:
29 Jan 2020, 19:04
What's the difference between TAS and Modded? (if they are even related)
I think: TAS is when a "tool" (an external program) is used during playing, modded is when you tweak an existing replay.

edit: lol pawq replied at the same time
(and yeah, maybe nitro counts as modded too)

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by pawq » 29 Jan 2020, 22:12

Well, what I wrote above is what I had in mind when I suggested these tags to Kopa :P

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by iCS » 29 Jan 2020, 22:21

pawq wrote:
29 Jan 2020, 22:12
Well, what I wrote above is what I had in mind when I suggested these tags to Kopa :P
Makes sense :D
Still wonder a bit what about tweaked recs, can they go to modded? (although tweaked recs are mega rare)

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by pawq » 29 Jan 2020, 22:31

Probably, but what do you actually mean by tweaked recs?

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by iCS » 29 Jan 2020, 22:51

pawq wrote:
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Probably, but what do you actually mean by tweaked recs?
(hex)edited and stuff

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by Lousku » 30 Jan 2020, 09:10

Death uploaded a bunch of fun recs with modded elma. Also old "fun" recs from mila or whoever would fall into that.
then again i don't know anything
maybe easier not to think abouut alöl things thought than not things thought ... or something..=?

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by kuchitsu » 30 Jan 2020, 16:06

Ok, I uploaded one just to test; hopefully I marked it right.)

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Re: How to get Recsource up again

Post by Kopaka » 30 Jan 2020, 17:11

yea what pawq said, at the time I think someone has been uploading nitro recs on zrecs and we wanted a distinction between that and SL

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