Elasto Mania Trainer

jw · Post by jw » 14 Nov 2003, 13:24

probably it's better than for Jonas to go on with his contest....

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 14 Nov 2003, 14:26

Make time penalty more than 30secs as you talked about.
Like 10mins.

Hedos · Post by **Hedos** » 14 Nov 2003, 22:08

It's right what I decided to do Kopaka

I was thinking at first to make +30seconds every time you changed gravity...
But, I decided to make it only one +10minutes, so you can know what is your "normal" time by substracting 10minutes.

I have been busy this week, I did not work on the trainer. But now it's the week-end

So I will try to finish it...
I'm also planning to include a 'Fun Mode' feature

pedro · Post by **pedro** » 14 Nov 2003, 23:09

and what exactly will this fun mode do....?

Hedos · Post by **Hedos** » 14 Nov 2003, 23:25

hehe.. it's a secret

Don't worry there will not be cheating possible with this Fun Mode..

dz · Post by dz » 15 Nov 2003, 11:46

Keep in mind, where ever you cheat by using this patch taking some record, you are most likely to get caught. There WILL be a tool which detects it. So when it's made, most people WILL check the replays afterwards. At least then, if not earlier, you WILL regret using it for cheating purposes.

So think twice before doing anything stupid. You will get caught.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 15 Nov 2003, 15:25

gravity can be counted
haven't tested this prog but i think i know how was it made...

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 15 Nov 2003, 21:14

this patch is the same as nitro.
it can be used almost the same way and detected too.
it CAN be modified for cheating and that sucks

Ky.Jelly · Post by **Ky.Jelly** » 15 Nov 2003, 22:00

dz wrote:most people WILL check the replays.

problem is only wr guys have to send in there recs, if some used this to get a tt of 41 or 40 no one would ever know

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 15 Nov 2003, 22:04

Ky.Jelly wrote:
dz wrote:most people WILL check the replays.
problem is only wr guys have to send in there recs, if some used this to get a tt of 41 or 40 no one would ever know

but asking replays for all player under 42 TT is A LOT OF MORE WORK, so it requires bigger moposite team maybe?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 16 Nov 2003, 15:22

i didn't understand exactly when i read this
i thought he's changing the value of gravity, not direction

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 16 Nov 2003, 15:24

btw. i found out how to detect hib's saveload
impossible became possible (but only because of one bug in the prog)
i wonder who's using it

DacBitch · Post by **DacBitch** » 16 Nov 2003, 15:39

8-ball wrote:this patch is the same as nitro.
it can be used almost the same way and detected too.
it CAN be modified for cheating and that sucks

oh, is that right? how come you're so smart dude? even without seeing the program code! i must admit i admire you!!

and oh yeah, all the links for this program have been REMOVED of course, and it PISSES me OFF, cause it's once again the fastest / luckiest / all-time-internet-addicts kuskis that got it. I wanna chcek it out too, god damn it! It's not that i wanna cheat, i never even tried to, but if it was supposed to be fun, then i wanna have fun too!!!

Hedos · Post by **Hedos** » 16 Nov 2003, 17:13

Don't worry, I'm gonna release a new version with time penalty..
I just don't have lot of time these days, but I will try to do as fast as I can

Jonas · Post by **Jonas** » 16 Nov 2003, 19:23

Why do you want it DacBitch?...I was online here pretty soon after it was uploaded and I didnÂ´t download and I donÂ´t want it either so....useless patch except for cheating....

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 16 Nov 2003, 20:16

Jonas wrote:Why do you want it DacBitch?...I was online here pretty soon after it was uploaded and I didnÂ´t download and I donÂ´t want it either so....useless patch except for cheating....

yep, i didnt download either..

Hedos · Post by **Hedos** » 16 Nov 2003, 20:35

Lot of people call my program a patch.. but it isnt..
It only edit memory, it won't modify any of your game files

chux · Post by **chux** » 16 Nov 2003, 22:19

Ohh-kayy...if this patch changes gravity, surely the little minimap at the bottom would move around crazily...?

Hedos · Post by **Hedos** » 16 Nov 2003, 23:08

lol, yeah

But... it is NOT a patch

DacBitch · Post by **DacBitch** » 17 Nov 2003, 13:39

Jonas wrote:Why do you want it DacBitch?...I was online here pretty soon after it was uploaded and I didnÂ´t download and I donÂ´t want it either so....useless patch except for cheating....

no, it's useless except for having fun. I (can only) guess it's quite detectable, and i repeat, i don't wanna use it for the cheating fukking purposes. OK?
PS: and i think you're a fool when you didn't download it. Either you're uncapable of having fun with this game anymore, or you didn't download it coz you were afraid you might wanna cheat after all...

jw · Post by jw » 17 Nov 2003, 13:53

Hmm, you think people are uncapeble of having fun without this trainer? I don't think so.
By the way you can also dl the state.dat editor and that is a lot easier way of cheating. (not for external contests, but if you wanna have a better total time or a top20 position on a level)

KD · Post by KD » 17 Nov 2003, 15:58

I'll never understand why all of you are so scared about this little prog, which is really funny to play imho. If someone seriously wanted to cheat, it was never impossible, this "patch" didn't make it way easier, maybe only for some external contests where replay is needed. I dunno. I like this prog, and all of you should try it, coz it's FUN!

DacBitch · Post by **DacBitch** » 21 Nov 2003, 15:43

jw: you should have read my post more carefully before posting useless comments

KD: please send me the prog --> damjanr@pobox.sk ...thanx

anpdad · Post by **anpdad** » 22 Nov 2003, 03:45

And, please, someone, send this Elma Trainer to me:

ANpDaD01@yahoo.com

Just wanna to have some fun.....

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 22 Nov 2003, 09:13

Don't send the trainer to anyone, no need to spread prog that can be used for cheating, more that it already is.
Wait for the new version to come.

DacBitch · Post by **DacBitch** » 22 Nov 2003, 14:03

oh, fuk! you're all insane

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 22 Nov 2003, 14:45

I have the prog, though I didnt get it to work :/
I have played a lot with both moc.com patch in across and with nitropatch to elma. I had much fun with those, if you are not megahoyla and just wanna have fun this programs can be fun. I would like to get ElmaTrainer to work. Ez fun internal battles with gravi ability. Same as it is fun to battle with different zoom/resolution.

If me and Bartek got it to work we would battle with it I guess. However I see why ppl get mad when version is out that doesnt add time (like nitro did) and if the results becomes like it happened in across with mod -> freezing tt list. It of course sucks. But anyway, even if prog did add time, if ppl wanted to cheat (and is good enough to cheat without beeing detected) I guess they could easily remove the "added time". And about this tt cheat some ppl seem to be afraid of... this is not easier to make good tt than it is with Stateeditor, which many ppl have. So if ppl wanna cheat I guess its pretty easy.

The worst cheat I can think of atm is a cheat that cant be detected, driving times for your pals, liek in tt contest.
Lets say someone had problem with enigma: I could just do a 20:xx rec for them and they helped me with headbanger, which I suck at.

If no one talks it cant be detected. Even if some weird prog could see recs not driven with same settings... so what. prooves nothing, since many ppl play on different puters and with different settigns all the time.

anpdad · Post by **anpdad** » 23 Nov 2003, 05:08

Ok, me waits for this new version that adds 10 mins.......

2fast · Post by **2fast** » 23 Nov 2003, 08:16

dame,I haven`t even tried this prog cuz the url didn`t work

Behk · Post by **Behk** » 30 Nov 2003, 15:52

I hate cheating and this "Elma Trainer" suckz hard.
It should`nt be allowed at all

KD · Post by KD » 1 Dec 2003, 14:05

I hate pl who keep saying "i hate cheaters, i hate cheating, it sucks". This IS NOT A CHEAT PROG ok! How can u say it sucks if you haven't even tried it?? It's damn fun!

MaZ · Post by **MaZ** » 1 Dec 2003, 16:43

ramone wrote:I have the prog, though I didnt get it to work :/
I have played a lot with both moc.com patch in across and with nitropatch to elma. I had much fun with those, if you are not megahoyla and just wanna have fun this programs can be fun. I would like to get ElmaTrainer to work. Ez fun internal battles with gravi ability. Same as it is fun to battle with different zoom/resolution.

If me and Bartek got it to work we would battle with it I guess. However I see why ppl get mad when version is out that doesnt add time (like nitro did) and if the results becomes like it happened in across with mod -> freezing tt list. It of course sucks. But anyway, even if prog did add time, if ppl wanted to cheat (and is good enough to cheat without beeing detected) I guess they could easily remove the "added time". And about this tt cheat some ppl seem to be afraid of... this is not easier to make good tt than it is with Stateeditor, which many ppl have. So if ppl wanna cheat I guess its pretty easy.

The worst cheat I can think of atm is a cheat that cant be detected, driving times for your pals, liek in tt contest.
Lets say someone had problem with enigma: I could just do a 20:xx rec for them and they helped me with headbanger, which I suck at.

If no one talks it cant be detected. Even if some weird prog could see recs not driven with same settings... so what. prooves nothing, since many ppl play on different puters and with different settigns all the time.

I have noticed that the trainer only works on NT-based windows such as WinNT, 2000 and Windows XP. At least it doesn't work for me when i use Windows ME or Windows 98.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 2 Dec 2003, 10:03

it doesn't work for me neither (on win2000)
i'll try at 98

Napoleon · Post by **Napoleon** » 2 Dec 2003, 14:09

ok, i havnt tried this program, but sounds hell funny, just do the add 10 min thing..

dz · Post by dz » 2 Dec 2003, 18:03

what is the point in adding 10 minutes when you can state edit it -10 mins?

MaZ · Post by **MaZ** » 3 Dec 2003, 08:28

dz wrote:what is the point in adding 10 minutes when you can state edit it -10 mins?

stat edit is easy to detect i think. (if its used i mean)

KD · Post by KD » 3 Dec 2003, 12:31

If the prog gives +10 mins then u stateedit it to -10, then it can't be detected, because the rec's time is actually the -10 min time i think. But Abu's prog can detect if you change the grav (not the changing itself) doesn't it?

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 4 Dec 2003, 14:22

Just do so when you finnish a level with the gravity trainer in use, the time won't be added to the level file, and you can neither save the replay.

ez no cheat

hard to make though I guess.

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 6 Dec 2003, 13:00

I really fail to realise what could possibly be "fun" about flying around a map aimlessly and then most probably crashing headfirst into a wall.
No skills required, no challenges.
Yeah, really fun.

J-sim · Post by **J-sim** » 6 Dec 2003, 13:26

Chris Penrose wrote:I really fail to realise what could possibly be "fun" about flying around a map aimlessly and then most probably crashing headfirst into a wall.
No skills required, no challenges.
Yeah, really fun.

Not that I think its more fun to play with trainer than without but I just wanted to say that there obviously is required more skill to play with this. It's a new dimension to the game thus making it more complex to do good rides.

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 6 Dec 2003, 13:28

is that teh ChrisP???

Fuck this prog

DacBitch · Post by **DacBitch** » 6 Dec 2003, 13:29

Chris Penrose wrote:I really fail to realise what could possibly be "fun" about flying around a map aimlessly and then most probably crashing headfirst into a wall.
No skills required, no challenges.
Yeah, really fun.

ok, think about this: a quite small level and the flag tag mode. how does that sound?

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 6 Dec 2003, 13:30

J-sim wrote:
Chris Penrose wrote:I really fail to realise what could possibly be "fun" about flying around a map aimlessly and then most probably crashing headfirst into a wall.
No skills required, no challenges.
Yeah, really fun.
Not that I think its more fun to play with trainer than without but I just wanted to say that there obviously is required more skill to play with this. It's a new dimension to the game thus making it more complex to do good rides.

ye, more skill required, especially on FreeFall...

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 6 Dec 2003, 13:33

Obviously I only have a vague idea of what the patch is like, due to not having downloaded it.
It may be totally different to how I imagine it is. The way you guys are talking about it seems to suggest so.

KD · Post by KD » 8 Dec 2003, 17:18

It isn't, believe me. You have to control even the gravity while riding the bike, so you need 4 more keys to press. It is not hard to use gravity, but hard to use it to finish a level faster (ok, not on freefall, or warm up, but there are many ints which are way more fun to play with this new dimesion, and we could also create levs for this gravy thing. even battles would be really nice!!)

DacBitch · Post by **DacBitch** » 17 Dec 2003, 12:54

flag tag is really great with this trainer!!

oh yeah, i'd like to thank 2 people for sending me the trainer. you know who you are!! and you others don't, hehehehe...

KD · Post by KD » 18 Dec 2003, 12:16

I already sent u, but it came back that ur mailbox is not working or smthn.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 18 Dec 2003, 16:56

can somebody sent the trainer to me?

tijsjoris@planet.nl

dafil · Post by **dafil** » 18 Dec 2003, 21:25

pls anyone send it to me

davidchen@onlinehome.de

thx!!

Olliz · Post by **Olliz** » 19 Dec 2003, 01:07

can someone send it to me:

superolli86@hotmail.com

thank you.