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arrows, numpad or what?

Post by Karlis » 11 Aug 2002, 20:51

it's time to ask about your höyling buttons again

my buttons

numpad8 =gas
numpad5 =brake
numpad4 = <-
numpad6 = ->
numpad+ = alovolt
space = turning

tell me yours?

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Post by Karlis » 11 Aug 2002, 21:08

we all know that there that old topic, times has changed, new buttons and so on, I don't care what buttons people used year ago
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Post by Toaster » 11 Aug 2002, 23:38

numpad:
7 alovolt
8 accel
4 left
6 right
5 break
ctrl (or space) turn

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Post by dz » 11 Aug 2002, 23:41

Toaster wrote:numpad:
7 alovolt
8 accel
4 left
6 right
5 break
ctrl (or space) turn
just too boring configuration..

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Post by dz » 11 Aug 2002, 23:47

my roxxor keys: :D

Arrows: left, gas, right
Left ALT: brake
Numpad0: alovolt
Space: turning

u don't need to move any button, every finger has own button so u can only concentrate on driving.
the keys gas/brake on up/down are most used i guess.. really wonder why ppl want to make it so hard.
let's say you're going an uphill part of some level, and you should not release gas (slower often), instead pushing yourself up with brake+gas+swing simultaneously, isn't it a but difficult to handle with 2 buttons ?

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Post by Toaster » 11 Aug 2002, 23:51

Hmm... I'll trye that 8)

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Post by Karlis » 12 Aug 2002, 00:40

of course it would be faster, cos you loose a lot of time(maybe even hundreds) to move finger from gas to brake. I've tried to change, but after all these years it's hard, can't control the bike at all, so weird..

earlier today I was thinking about playing all the levels thru with the new buttons. höylin' all the internals thru few times should help, if not, then I'll give up and höyl with these veteranbuttons like hell, just like always.
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Post by milagros » 12 Aug 2002, 08:20

ok, Karlis (i wonder why do you care so much)
i use
L (gas)
,(left)
.(brake)
-(right)
space(turn)
v for alovolt but i don´t use it much

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Post by SveinR » 12 Aug 2002, 10:14

Gas: Up arrow
Left: <-
Rigt: ->
Brake: Down arrow
Turn: Space
Alovolt: Numpad 0

...yes, quite boring configuration dz :P
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Post by m0nkeii » 12 Aug 2002, 10:47

me do the same as sveinR

im so used to using it like that, and for other games too that i cant change
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Post by ribot » 12 Aug 2002, 11:07

i use numpad 4,5,6 for left, break, right
numpad 3 alavolt
key under esc for turn, and 1 for gas

in the beginning i couldnt control the bike with these settings, it's quite hard to relearn, and i still dont have any wr

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Post by Chrispy » 12 Aug 2002, 11:25

Just the standard ones.
Does anyone play with a controller (like a PS2 controller, only for your pc)?

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Post by Roni » 12 Aug 2002, 12:45

i use arrows and ctrl is turn

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Post by milagros » 12 Aug 2002, 12:47

i used arrows but i wasn´t able to do even supervolt with them
then i changed to KM,. but i wasn´t able to do alovolt
and now i use L,.-

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Post by DYW265 » 12 Aug 2002, 13:04

gas, break: 5, left alt
left, right, turn: 1, 3, space

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Post by Abula » 12 Aug 2002, 14:15

Karlis wrote:of course it would be faster, cos you loose a lot of time(maybe even hundreds)
Not hundreds but 0.2 seconds. Thrust me, it's true. Just take a clock where you can count time with 0.01 accurate. Then start the clock and stop it as quickly as you can. My record is 0.15 and I bet you cannot do it much faster. And in Elma you have to even change the button so it takes more time.

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Post by milagros » 12 Aug 2002, 14:33

i don´t think so
i would have many WRs if it saves so much
btw. when i want to brake, i just push my finger down
i think it´s not problem to learn it without any losts

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Post by Abula » 12 Aug 2002, 15:15

milagros wrote:i don´t think so
i would have many WRs if it saves so much
btw. when i want to brake, i just push my finger down
i think it´s not problem to learn it without any losts
Of course it doesn't mean that you could drive 13,92 in Warm Up or something. No, no. You understood every time you brake you would lose 0.2? No, I didn't mean that but the braking takes a little bit more time and in most cases it doesn't affect to result but anyway it's more unaccurate and therefore worse.
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Post by darm » 12 Aug 2002, 19:53

I use same keys dz does... and they RULE! :)

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Post by MJXII » 12 Aug 2002, 21:12

I use:

Num8 - fwd
Num5 - bak
Num4 - left
Num6 - right
Ctrl - turn
Space - alovolt
Esc - quit

Would be good if I could configure a different button to act as esc. it's too far away :o

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Post by Dariuz » 12 Aug 2002, 21:37

up-arrow : gas
down-arrow : brake
<- , -> : left , right
left ctrl : turn
Z : alovolt
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Post by SveinR » 12 Aug 2002, 22:01

I tried some different settings today, so that one finger is only associated with one button, but....It's too hard after 2 years + 4 months of the same configurations..
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Post by ribot » 12 Aug 2002, 22:55

it should be quite easy to make a program that tests your speed moving your finger from arrow up to arrow down. a timer clock has totally different buttons so u can't really compare it.

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Post by zworqy » 12 Aug 2002, 23:02

I use the standard buttons + A for Alovolt. Not really because A = Alovolt, but since that's where my index finger is anyway. (I use my left thumb to press space (=brake)).

To get a good time the most important thing is to use keys that gives you the right feeling, not keys you can press as fast as possible

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Post by MP » 13 Aug 2002, 18:28

Normal keys and left shift for alovolt. I hate numpad because enter is too far to reach :D

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Post by cyre » 13 Aug 2002, 19:23

you didn't notice that there's another enter placed on the right side of the numpad for your right hand littlefinger.... it's very handy

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Post by dz » 13 Aug 2002, 20:56

DarMoeD wrote:I use same keys dz does... and they RULE! :)
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ps. mick, call this sucky keys ? :)

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Post by Mick » 14 Aug 2002, 01:01

sux keys, you guys are losers if u use brake over there. no wonder you two are so bad at elma.....:D
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Post by darm » 14 Aug 2002, 07:34

We also know that we suck so that beats our selfish natures to break more and more records to prove that we don`t suck so hard but until total under 39 mins nothing is ok :):)

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Post by devin » 14 Aug 2002, 20:24

my keys are stupid but i noticed that no one uses the same alovolt key as me.

gas=up arrow
left volt=left arrow
right volt=right arrow
brake=down arrow
turn=space
alovolt= 1 (not numpad1, the 1 above letter "Q")
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Post by dz » 14 Aug 2002, 20:36

man that's like suckiest key for alovolt i can imagine :D

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Post by Abula » 14 Aug 2002, 20:45

dz wrote:man that's like suckiest key for alovolt i can imagine :D
I think F9 and your fridge's power button are worse. By the way I use ½§ which is next to 1.
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Post by dz » 14 Aug 2002, 20:53

whats the advantage to use an alovolt key on a place where you can easily miskeypress ? more excitement ?

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Post by devin » 15 Aug 2002, 15:56

makes the run more exciting...

nono really that is where my finger (pointer finger) always rests so it is convineint for me to use that key, and i dont think ive ever missed it yet. and my middle finger is always on the escape key(that can be a bitch some times) and my thumb is always on space, try it.
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Post by epp » 24 Aug 2002, 22:15

My controls are simple, but easy to use.
They´re almost like default:

Throttle: Up Arrow
Brake: Down Arrow
Left: ->
Right: <-
Direction: Right Ctrl
Alovolt: Right Shift

Easy to use, if you´ve used ´em since you started :D
I think that shift is a good posisition for Alovolt, its right at you´re finger.
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Post by Jazaky » 24 Aug 2002, 22:58

throttle =^
brake=dn
rotate= < & >
turn around= space
alovolt=A
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Post by SveinR » 25 Aug 2002, 13:36

eppeJ wrote: Left: ->
Right: <-
You use left arrow for right volt and right arrow for left volt? Strange...
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Post by Abula » 25 Aug 2002, 13:50

SveinR wrote:
eppeJ wrote: Left: ->
Right: <-
You use left arrow for right volt and right arrow for left volt? Strange...
That's definetyle worth testing, try it. Damn awesome.
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Post by DCEM » 25 Aug 2002, 13:57

I use
left arrow
right arrow
up arrow
down arrow
space for turning
and Q for alovolt

to have the alo in Q is best, cus then u have spacebar at the thumb and my middle finger at escape, so Q is right between =)

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Post by dz » 25 Aug 2002, 18:47

eppeJ wrote:My controls are simple, but easy to use.
They´re almost like default:

Throttle: Up Arrow
Brake: Down Arrow
Left: ->
Right: <-
Direction: Right Ctrl
Alovolt: Right Shift

Easy to use, if you´ve used ´em since you started :D
I think that shift is a good posisition for Alovolt, its right at you´re finger.
they have only gas/brake like default..
and shit you have one fuked up movementation to me..
anyone else play with reversed arrows ?
is this the secret fm style ?

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Post by Karlis » 25 Aug 2002, 19:09

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2 brakes.........that's something
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Post by epp » 25 Aug 2002, 21:30

FM style, whats thet?
All my friends think its pretty fucked up too.
Here´s why i use those controls:
The first time i tried the shareware version at one of my friends,
i was looking at the controls under options.
Then i said to him, if it was ok if i changed his controls, and he said ok.
He was using some other controls, numpad.
And then because i just wanted to get started, i just typed in the wrong controls, but i thought it was the right ones!
He said that it was very difficult, and because of my mistake with the controls, i said: Damn, yes its hard!
Ever since i´ve used thos controls.

But, i feel very abnormal when i look at your´s and everbody elses controls. So, i think i´ll try to use the default :lol:
Though, i think it will be very hard, cos im used to these controls :wink:
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Post by ribot » 25 Aug 2002, 23:08

that seems like a pointless change! u rock to use reverse controls!!!

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Post by ThanaTos » 25 Aug 2002, 23:40

i'll from now on going to play with the screen upside-down!! :lol:
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Post by onlainari » 28 Aug 2002, 01:22

up arrow thro
down arrow brake
left arrow left
right arrow rite
space bar turn
left ctrl alovolts

I'll try dz/dmd settings for brake/throttle...sounds nice

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Post by Ky.Jelly » 28 Aug 2002, 02:17

eppeJ wrote:My controls are simple, but easy to use.
They´re almost like default:

Throttle: Up Arrow
Brake: Down Arrow
Left: ->
Right: <-
Direction: Right Ctrl
Alovolt: Right Shift

Easy to use, if you´ve used ´em since you started :D
I think that shift is a good posisition for Alovolt, its right at you´re finger.
unless you are also playin one handed (which i doubt) it seems stupid to have you direction and alovolt keys on the right side of your keyboard, it means u either sit with both hands cramped in the middle of your body sitting to one side of the keyboard or you have one hand crossed rite across ur body. this connnot be comfortable and must lead to cramping in your fingers/hands while you play
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Post by onlainari » 28 Aug 2002, 12:12

I hoyled some time for a level and got lefthand a bit sick so I changed alvolt to Q button....first it was at 1 and §/½ but those buttons didnt allow me to push 4 buttons down at the same time :< but Q is almost as good.....

also tried to set brake to the left alt and somewhere else but it was so hard since ive played this thing for almost 4 years

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Post by Chris Penrose » 29 Aug 2002, 17:44

Cursorkeyleft : spin anticlockwise
Cursorkeyright : spin clockwise
Cursorkeyup : gas
Cursorkeydown : brake

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Post by chux » 29 Aug 2002, 20:06

I use all the default keys, up down left right and space.
I have to ask...alovolt???
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