DarMoeD is a cheater

Napoleon · Post by **Napoleon** » 7 Aug 2004, 16:00

god damn those russian guys that protects darm are making me sick
darm did cheat and he should be able to stand for himself
i know he is a god for all u other russian players, but all this protecting is just so ugly

chux · Post by **chux** » 7 Aug 2004, 16:38

Dont really know what to say, DMD was 'the man' to me for so long, because he was the #1 when I started playing and because of his 72 hour hoyling, as well as being a general nice guy. At least Yutik is still 'clean'.

Losing a 'hero' is pretty tough, but I guess as long as Cloud is still one of us...

McElast · Post by **McElast** » 7 Aug 2004, 17:11

Ok, Ok.
I don't protect anyone. I just say that after one year nobody returns. It's not 1 year, it's forever. In fact it's a year, but really - ...? You understand?

And else, i've understood, Abula is a really elma chief. He and his fellows can detect ALL cheaters. Hey, cheaters, he's coming.

pukvete · Post by **pukvete** » 7 Aug 2004, 18:04

I asked darm some questions on IRC and got his permission to post his answers.
Just some general questions which I thought some of you might be interested in aswell.

darm is ~darm@fw1sar.beelinegprs.com * DarM
darm on @#elma.ru
darm using sunsite.dk [130.225.247.90] SunSITE Denmark
darm End of WHOIS list.

[17:41] <me> how are you now?
[17:41] <darm> better than before

[17:43] <me> do people still talk to you after they know you cheated? like luther and them
[17:43] <darm> yep

[17:44] <me> what do you do other than elma, do you have a job?
[17:45] <darm> ye i have life... like a gf and job
(He told me she is cute

)

[17:47] <me> will you continue playing elma or quit?
[17:47] <darm> depends on some things...
[17:48] <darm> like for how long i`ll be baned on russian site
[17:49] <me> so when you get unbanned, will you start play clean again?
[17:49] <darm> i already started new state.dat...
[17:53] <me> how long ago?
[17:53] <darm> yesterday

[17:58] <me> tt?
[18:00] <darm> 42 or so... just finished every lev once

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 8 Aug 2004, 02:35

McElast wrote:Hi all!
Things that happened are awful (Brrrrrâ€¦)
But I think that we shouldnâ€™t be so angry.
As I know DMD never said he was coolest. He understood he hadnâ€™t right to do it.
Cheating is something like drugs: if you try it you canâ€™t stop. Itâ€™s a sickness. I donâ€™t hate him, Iâ€™m very sorry for him. But it canâ€™t be forgotten.
I think that to ban somebody for 1 year is not right. Itâ€™s to much. Abula, you should imagine something else. Itâ€™s only when a person is caught for the first time. If he will not understand, he must be banned.
My idea: money. If you are caught for the first time, you should pay some money to be allowed to play more. And If you are caught for the 2nd, 3rd time, youâ€™ll be banned for 1 year and be able to return also if you pay some fine. Itâ€™s common situation. It can be extended.
Maybe itâ€™s a bit fully, but in one year nobody will return. Itâ€™s psychology.

do u really think, that a guy who lives that far away, would send money to abula just to be able to participate in moposite contests??? If so then u are stupidererererere than a cow that looks at an oncoming train..

if i was fined for cheating, lets say 20e then i would sit on my arse here in Denmark and be laughing a lot, cuz i would never ever pay that fine...

I think most would agree with me on this.

BigRed · Post by **BigRed** » 8 Aug 2004, 07:16

Cool. Darm is a cheat.
I never would have guessed it. Nice surprise when I checked moposite today.

DarkSky · Post by **DarkSky** » 8 Aug 2004, 08:38

BigRed wrote:Cool. Darm is a cheat.
I never would have guessed it. Nice surprise when I checked moposite today.

Just because you competing against him (i think) it doesnt mean its a good thing that he was a cheat. Its never good when someone has been caught cheating......

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 8 Aug 2004, 09:03

SlenderBelly wrote:
BigRed wrote:Cool. Darm is a cheat.
I never would have guessed it. Nice surprise when I checked moposite today.
Just because you competing against him (i think) it doesnt mean its a good thing that he was a cheat. Its never good when someone has been caught cheating......

thats where ur wrong slender.... it IS good when someone is caught cheating, but it sux that they started cheating in the first place.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 8 Aug 2004, 09:21

McElast wrote:Ok, Ok.
I don't protect anyone. I just say that after one year nobody returns. It's not 1 year, it's forever. In fact it's a year, but really - ...? You understand?

Yes, and if cheaters doesn't return it's fine.

DarkSky · Post by **DarkSky** » 8 Aug 2004, 09:25

petsen wrote:
SlenderBelly wrote:
BigRed wrote:Cool. Darm is a cheat.
I never would have guessed it. Nice surprise when I checked moposite today.
Just because you competing against him (i think) it doesnt mean its a good thing that he was a cheat. Its never good when someone has been caught cheating......
thats where ur wrong slender.... it IS good when someone is caught cheating, but it sux that they started cheating in the first place.

Thats what I meant. Its not good when people are cheating. I got the impression you were happy he was a cheater and got caught so you maybe got better in world record lists etc. etc.

Alexey · Post by **Alexey** » 8 Aug 2004, 11:38

Napoleon wrote:god damn those russian guys that protects darm are making me sick
darm did cheat and he should be able to stand for himself
i know he is a god for all u other russian players, but all this protecting is just so ugly

Totally agree

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 8 Aug 2004, 11:54

petsen wrote:
McElast wrote:Hi all!
Things that happened are awful (Brrrrrâ€¦)
But I think that we shouldnâ€™t be so angry.
As I know DMD never said he was coolest. He understood he hadnâ€™t right to do it.
Cheating is something like drugs: if you try it you canâ€™t stop. Itâ€™s a sickness. I donâ€™t hate him, Iâ€™m very sorry for him. But it canâ€™t be forgotten.
I think that to ban somebody for 1 year is not right. Itâ€™s to much. Abula, you should imagine something else. Itâ€™s only when a person is caught for the first time. If he will not understand, he must be banned.
My idea: money. If you are caught for the first time, you should pay some money to be allowed to play more. And If you are caught for the 2nd, 3rd time, youâ€™ll be banned for 1 year and be able to return also if you pay some fine. Itâ€™s common situation. It can be extended.
Maybe itâ€™s a bit fully, but in one year nobody will return. Itâ€™s psychology.
do u really think, that a guy who lives that far away, would send money to abula just to be able to participate in moposite contests??? If so then u are stupidererererere than a cow that looks at an oncoming train..

if i was fined for cheating, lets say 20e then i would sit on my arse here in Denmark and be laughing a lot, cuz i would never ever pay that fine...

I think most would agree with me on this.

I think if he pays back 130Â£ to luther and 35Â£ to abula and all the other money prices he got i think he shouold be allowed back or get shorter ban, or he just have to wait a year.

pukvete · Post by **pukvete** » 8 Aug 2004, 13:18

I think if he pays back 130Â£ to luther and 35Â£ to abula and all the
other money prices he got i think he shouold be allowed back
or get shorter ban, or he just have to wait a year.

I agree, it would be a nice gesture if he would do that and, although he still
should be banned for a year, it would give me back my full respect for him
and probably for a lot of others.

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 8 Aug 2004, 13:44

why should he pay back if he doesnt get anything for it?? hes in russia, whos gonna make him??

Schumi · Post by **Schumi** » 8 Aug 2004, 17:13

I think the fact that DarMoeD is a cheater has changed the whole elma world. Most of people are shocked and disappointed.

Anyway I'm sure that it will be so difficoult to absorb that we don't have a DarMoeD anymore. It's 100% that elma will never be the same. Sorry for this pessimistic tone.

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 8 Aug 2004, 17:16

schumee wrote: It's 100% that elma will never be the same.

It will only be better

Edit : Still surprised that HE still have 430 points in Kuski Gallery !

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 8 Aug 2004, 18:05

schumee wrote:I think the fact that DarMoeD is a cheater has changed the whole elma world. Most of people are shocked and disappointed. Anyway I'm sure that it will be so difficoult to absorb that we don't have a DarMoeD anymore. It's 100% that elma will never be the same. Sorry for this pessimistic tone.

Well I have to say that i was more disappointed when Nostrade/Deadelous was cought.. and if pajen is revealed as a cheater now then my whole world ends...

List of my Elma Idols:

1.pajen
2.Deadelous
3.Darm & Zweq

now darm is off that list though im not angry with him, and im still not convinced that the evedence against Deadelous are 100% fact so he gets to stay on the list until I think he is proven guilty.

in time if darm restarts his carreer after his ban and plays without cheating he certainly will be on my list again. He is still a friend of RDK's.

insane guy · Post by **insane guy** » 8 Aug 2004, 19:42

dmd cheated his rec on insane27.lev for which i sent him a pic irl that took me about 5 hours to make...

NectarIn · Post by **NectarIn** » 8 Aug 2004, 22:45

god damn those russian guys that protects darm are making me sick
darm did cheat and he should be able to stand for himself
i know he is a god for all u other russian players, but all this protecting is just so ugly

I haven't protect him, I just said that WE cannot accuse him with no sorry...

At least Yutik is still 'clean'.

...if Abula has 100% sure, of course...

If so then u are stupidererererere than a cow that looks at an oncoming train..

fk u!

Mc, lets go out, i can't stay here anymore...

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 9 Aug 2004, 07:55

John wrote:
milagros wrote:and i forgot
DaemoN has not cheated
made a mistake..
sorry man
Great work with DarM mila but wtf u should have been 100% sure with DaemoN before u said his recs were cheated. I feel sorry for DaemoN being accused for cheating

me too

Revolt · Post by **Revolt** » 9 Aug 2004, 10:08

SlenderBelly wrote:
BigRed wrote:Cool. Darm is a cheat.
I never would have guessed it. Nice surprise when I checked moposite today.
Just because you competing against him (i think) it doesnt mean its a good thing that he was a cheat. Its never good when someone has been caught cheating......

lololololol i dont think bigred was competing with darmoed with a tt of over an hour

amcsi · Post by **amcsi** » 9 Aug 2004, 11:13

Revolt wrote:
SlenderBelly wrote:
BigRed wrote:Cool. Darm is a cheat.
I never would have guessed it. Nice surprise when I checked moposite today.
Just because you competing against him (i think) it doesnt mean its a good thing that he was a cheat. Its never good when someone has been caught cheating......

lololololol i dont think bigred was competing with darmoed with a tt of over an hour

nobody needs to compete with DMD anymore. Everyone's happy they got 1 rank higher

jw · Post by jw » 9 Aug 2004, 22:09

petsen wrote:if i was fined for cheating, lets say 20e then i would sit on my arse here in Denmark and be laughing a lot, cuz i would never ever pay that fine...

I think most would agree with me on this.

i don't, 20 euro is like 2 hours work, so for me it's like a 2 hrs ban, just work 2 hrs in stead of playing elma and i can start over all again.
i think fines don't work, because not every kuski owns/ earns the same amount of money

ciph · Post by **ciph** » 12 Aug 2004, 03:43

DDDDAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEE[RR]

omgz....hard to think of words to say what im thinking here buddy....

im glad you were caught because saveload was always a myth so now at least i understand how you rose so quickly to success....cheating world cup victory to me much worse than cheating some wrs....world cup is like olympics...a great official event....

chip and dale....nawww
chip and cheater.

kinda shitty but i still love ya pal

/saf....

Dyrox · Post by **Dyrox** » 12 Aug 2004, 06:10

Is it the Ciph being back?!

amcsi · Post by **amcsi** » 12 Aug 2004, 12:15

jw wrote:
petsen wrote:if i was fined for cheating, lets say 20e then i would sit on my arse here in Denmark and be laughing a lot, cuz i would never ever pay that fine...

I think most would agree with me on this.
i don't, 20 euro is like 2 hours work, so for me it's like a 2 hrs ban, just work 2 hrs in stead of playing elma and i can start over all again.
i think fines don't work, because not every kuski owns/ earns the same amount of money

are ya serious that you get 10 euro an hour?

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 12 Aug 2004, 12:59

I get more than 10e an hour :X

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 12 Aug 2004, 15:45

Luther wrote:I get more than 10e an hour :X

i do too, i get 13,45e before taxes though, still would NOT pay that fine..
and on the weekends i get 26,90e per hour

cyre · Post by **cyre** » 12 Aug 2004, 22:27

And i get like... like.... one hundred BILLION dollars/h

Such a shame that dmd did what he did. And all that lying...

halcyoN · Post by **halcyoN** » 20 Aug 2004, 15:45

so the headbanger pipe driven with head first was cheated too?

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 20 Aug 2004, 17:11

yes, but it is possible...

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 20 Aug 2004, 18:06

yes it`s possibel i`ve seen more then 2 replays with headbanger pipe with head first

John · Post by **John** » 20 Aug 2004, 20:53

Lukazz wrote:yes it`s possibel i`ve seen more then 2 replays with headbanger pipe with head first

those recs probably never got through whole pipe?

FludonJa · Post by **FludonJa** » 22 Aug 2004, 00:07

Napoleon wrote:god damn those russian guys that protects darm are making me sick
darm did cheat and he should be able to stand for himself
i know he is a god for all u other russian players, but all this protecting is just so ugly

your mama is ugly!

I am just angry that everybody is atacking darm and my eastern brothers!darm isn't the first kuski who cheated,and he will not be the last for sure.
sadly but true.

Schumi · Post by **Schumi** » 22 Aug 2004, 05:59

omg, Darm's 3 ex-wr rec are so.... impossible.

But maybe bowling can be under 55 secs. Labypro & hang tight almost impossibel to beat. :/

Revolt · Post by **Revolt** » 22 Aug 2004, 07:29

insane guy wrote:dmd cheated his rec on insane27.lev for which i sent him a pic irl that took me about 5 hours to make...

can we see??

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 22 Aug 2004, 10:43

Floyd wrote:
Napoleon wrote:god damn those russian guys that protects darm are making me sick
darm did cheat and he should be able to stand for himself
i know he is a god for all u other russian players, but all this protecting is just so ugly

your mama is ugly!

isnt floyds post a ban-worthy tresspass ?

insane guy · Post by **insane guy** » 22 Aug 2004, 12:30

the lev: http://www.mxb.dk/upload2/insane27.lev

the rec: http://www.mxb.dk/upload2/fukky.rec

the pic: http://www.mxb.dk/upload2/scan0007.JPG

...

Post by **Abula** » 22 Aug 2004, 14:33

petsen wrote:
Floyd wrote:your mama is ugly!
isnt floyds post a ban-worthy tresspass ?

Yes it is, and I PMed him and he seem to edit it. And secondly your post is not good either, people don't have to suggest bans publically.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 22 Aug 2004, 19:29

Yeah, but floyd, do you understand that we are very dissapointed to see one of our greatest idols has cheated?

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 22 Aug 2004, 22:20

Abula wrote:
petsen wrote:
Floyd wrote:your mama is ugly!
isnt floyds post a ban-worthy tresspass ?
Yes it is, and I PMed him and he seem to edit it. And secondly your post is not good either, people don't have to suggest bans publically.

no we dont have to, but it isnt against any rules as far as i have read.

kinghias · Post by **kinghias** » 22 Aug 2004, 23:06

as far as i know: to must not = to do not have to = to be forbidden

jw · Post by jw » 23 Aug 2004, 00:13

as far as i know petsen mend: to do not have to = to do not need to do

Post by **Abula** » 23 Aug 2004, 02:16

Nevermind. Cut off the crap and back to topic.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 23 Aug 2004, 21:10

reading old EzhikuS' posts is 'double' funny nowadays

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 25 Aug 2004, 13:13

ezhikus knew darm was cheating
and his posts were full of darm teh besterest, toringe is cheating

m0nkeii · Post by **m0nkeii** » 26 Aug 2004, 11:32

now i'm actually glad i flamed that mofo

edg · Post by **edg** » 14 Sep 2004, 16:59

milagros wrote:
d.giovanni wrote:But why did you suspect darm? Do you thozght: "Hey, theres something strange in his rec. lets check it!"
nobody suspected anybody
abu sent me autoplay, i tried it, made a prog, tested my elma dir and only one other rec found cheated - 52darm.rec
so i sent to abula and that's it

So, I guess my autoplay DID do positive change to Elma community. Of course, without autoplay in some time you would have discovered dmd's cheating anyway. Still, it's nice to know that autoplay wasn't that bad.

Today, when I got my internet back, I went to moposite to say I'm sorry about sharing autoplay to people, and what do I see is - DarMoeD is a cheater. I never knew he was cheating, I only thought he might, as his replays were incredible. So, I'm

too.

Yes, I'm sorry I put autoplay in the internet. I've been having some thought about much of everything lately, and I've understood that it was all wrong. Time passes, people change... As the prog didn't do much harm, I believe everything is more or less ok now.

John · Post by **John** » 14 Sep 2004, 17:03

edg wrote:As the prog didn't do much harm, I believe everything is more or less ok now.

yeah right, wr-stats was a complete f.up

edg · Post by **edg** » 14 Sep 2004, 17:12

John wrote:
edg wrote:As the prog didn't do much harm, I believe everything is more or less ok now.
yeah right, wr-stats was a complete f.up

But now they're not. I ment permanent harm. Now it is ok, isn't it?

DarMoeD is a cheater

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