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So, edg, you mean you had no idea Darm actually did cheat?
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edg wrote: So, I guess my autoplay DID do positive change to Elma community. Of course, without autoplay in some time you would have discovered dmd's cheating anyway. Still, it's nice to know that autoplay wasn't that bad.

Today, when I got my internet back, I went to moposite to say I'm sorry about sharing autoplay to people, and what do I see is - DarMoeD is a cheater. I never knew he was cheating, I only thought he might, as his replays were incredible. So, I'm 8O 8O 8O 8O too.

Yes, I'm sorry I put autoplay in the internet. I've been having some thought about much of everything lately, and I've understood that it was all wrong. Time passes, people change... As the prog didn't do much harm, I believe everything is more or less ok now.

Now, someone please tell me, did Darm use autoplay or save&load???
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Darm had his thing much earlier than edg created his autoplay, I think.
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8-ball wrote:So, edg, you mean you had no idea Darm actually did cheat?
Not a clue.
Juski wrote:Now, someone please tell me, did Darm use autoplay or save&load???
I understand it this way:
Darm had always used his save&load cheat, but in his 52darm.rec he either used autoplay or his save&load cheat has the same "bug" as my autoplay.


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his saveload has same bug as edq's autoplay
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Abula wrote:DMD will be banned for one year on Moposite like I told on Moposite news. I can't speak for other sites etc.
Abula wrote:Both Nostrada and mrickx had cheated several WRs, actually all the WRs (one freefall WR by Weird-AAL isn't sure) they have ever made. Therefore both guys got bans, Nostrada forever.
Why Nostrada got banned forever and DMD for one year?
http://www.moposite.com/stuff_illegality.php wrote:- DarMoeD: cheated 56 WRs and the victory of WCup4
- Nostrada: cheated about 40 WRs
and why are the given bans/ punishments not on the illegality part of the moposite?
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Because Nostrada cheated once, got banned, and cheated another time.
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did darmoed really cheat?
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Napoleon wrote:did darmoed really cheat?
He admitted the cheating, so the answer is trivial.
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Napoleon wrote:did darmoed really cheat?
I think not
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hahahahahaha i just came home from a party
a girl there was called ramone hahahaha
i did tjhis: omfg lol 2tm
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lol how can u be a girl named ramone, thats really sad.. :lol:
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ez she was ramona!
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Yey, never knew you were that smart! :)
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This isn't a chat. Stop the off-topic.
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do u guys have any punishments for such actions? is there like an elma code of conduct or law?
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Ban from WR table, records and other competitions and SHAME :D
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No elma? He still plays like hell, which I don't understand.
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He made some recs on SveinR site... Sick times by the way
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darmoed cheats???? OMG when the hell did this happen ..
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02.03.2004: Well, whatever, take my Autoplay - let's see what happens...
^^ From edg's website, hah, that was kind of stupid of him
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BarTek wrote:blöh i mean where on site are xiit recs
Sorry... :oops:
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Post by Ez3kiel »

dardmoed was the best, but his cheating is not a hard cheating like acceleration boost , time scale cause he don't use that.
he has just turned on a program to save and load game
but behind this there is some nice movement and technics..
so we are inspired and challenged annnnd
so we get better at elma so...
its good

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Ez3kiel wrote:dardmoed was the best, but his cheating is not a hard cheating like acceleration boost , time scale cause he don't use that.
he has just turned on a program to save and load game
but behind this there is some nice movement and technics..
so we are inspired and challenged annnnd
so we get better at elma so...
its good

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I was not good, look at the boost in WRs we got after he got caught.
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yea but he showed styles that many thaught as impossible.
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hard to say if it was good or not. it's my opinion that people were discouraged to play when they saw such sick times. most people only hoyl when they think they have a shot at a decent time, or in some cases when they think a WR is possible. darm pretty much destroyed this hope.
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jonsi wrote:yea but he showed styles that many thaught as impossible.
Like what styles?
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ok not styles but he showed that it was possible to break those timelimits and do so good times as he did
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jonsi wrote:ok not styles but he showed that it was possible to break those timelimits and do so good times as he did
Ye but many of us(including me and abula that makes the targets for the 36 limit) do think that the times possible is way better then darms ones, so he didnt show me anything.
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of course there´s better styles and it also possible to drive better than him
but everybody has a personal opinion...
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at least he was the one who invented new wth-start-style (or wasn't he?) and some more minor style-improvements like lab pro after start-loop part or hang tight wheel compress...

and he showed that upside under 1min is possible with hang-style which hardly anyone believed

that kinda things helped other people improve their times alot i think (as it can be seen in lots of levs where he had the wr like circu and bowling)
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Well he showed things that others could've done too with s&l.
It's cheating and it shouldn't be done and isn't right, wether direct or indirect.

I don't see a reason to think up how many things were right with cheating darm, cause cheating isn't right.
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DarMoeD was a filthy cheater and he spoiled all the excitement and fun of finding new styles and destroyed dreams of getting wrs in elma of many people.

after he got caought, many people started höyling like insane. thats a good thing of course.

hope you can understand what i mean, my engilsh skills are quite low.
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Good point.

All new styles which DarMoeD found would had been found or will be found by someone else. Now he destroyed the joy of finding those styles.
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hmm i was just wondering when reading kinghias' post, which styles did darmoed actually invent? atleast not wthstart and labpro after startloop as far as i know... so which styles did he actually invent?
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hmm, didn't know that, thought that he at least invented wth because somewhere i read he didn't want his style to be published :?
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kinghias wrote:hmm, didn't know that, thought that he at least invented wth because somewhere i read he didn't want his style to be published :?
he did'nt want it published because his former teammate zweq invented it :wink:
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how can you be so much against cheating when in everyday life you cheat and lie every day? it's all just about being self important.
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ribot wrote:how can you be so much against cheating when in everyday life you cheat and lie every day? it's all just about being self important.
Its about breaking the rules, do you go around robbing banks everyday??
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Agree with Juski, quite lame point you have there ribot ;X
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i agree with ribot, at least at some points. i lie, i cheat and i'm a hypocrite person as wel, at least i don't deny it all the time...
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ribot is just reminding us, appropriately and validly, of the fact that all men are egoist
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elma isn't about affairs. elma is simple: beat time. You shouldn't cheat on that!
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tijsjoris wrote:elma isn't about affairs. elma is simple: beat time. You shouldn't cheat on that!
lol....what all sprinting events and swimming and so on....that´s also just beating times and other players....but the biggest cheatings exists in those events so that´s just stupid said tijsjoris :)
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Jonas, maybe they wouldn't cheat on swimming, skiing and so on, if their money wouldn't depend on it.
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Its not just money, also all teh respect and attention they get.
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It's almost one year since DarM was caught and banned now....When his ban expire will we see him returning do you think? With a year to practice from a (claimed) 38TT how good will he have become, could genuine WR's be possible? Would they be allowed or would people doubt they were real? would he be welcome back at all?

Just wondering.
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