DarMoeD is a cheater

Post by **Abula** » 5 Aug 2004, 17:01

A few days ago me and milagros discovered the fact. We had to be 101% sure so that's why the delay.

I won't share my personal thoughts - yet.

Post by **Abula** » 5 Aug 2004, 17:03

And for people who don't believe me can check it himself. Just take one DMD rec, rename it and put it along ten replays pack which are your own recs (they are renamed too) and give me. I can pick up DMD's replay.

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 5 Aug 2004, 17:17

Well... I really trusted him to the end... Can't say anything before he says a word or two about this.

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 5 Aug 2004, 17:18

I've always said he was a cheater and a mongo.

Napoleon · Post by **Napoleon** » 5 Aug 2004, 17:21

im still shocked, really didnt think he cheated

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 5 Aug 2004, 17:26

Luther wrote:I've always said he was a cheater and a mongo.

<LutherICE> darm :*********************************

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 5 Aug 2004, 17:35

strangest thing to find out now? and i've been trying to accept how he can be so good..what about zweq then?

Napoleon · Post by **Napoleon** » 5 Aug 2004, 17:38

yeap, i guess thats next thing to find out

What about Zweq??

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 5 Aug 2004, 17:43

Anyway, I'm this shocked:

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:00

"The ban is two years as usual for the first-timers"

this is a quote from moposite news. i wonder if anyone else got two years ban before... but if you're an fm member you will not be banned. karlis was never banned.

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:12

well zweq has played elma for as far as i know twice as long as darm, and what about markku?? he was the one always beating darm in battles.

AB_TOPAZ · Post by **AB_TOPAZ** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:15

I dont belived in this...

Post by **Abula** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:19

Ok, fixed it to one year. Don't really remember was the is one or two for default.

And no one of the state.dat editors got a ban. Reasons you find from the New cheating wave topic.

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:26

I want see all his recs, if it's now possible. btw. i'm shocked too...

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:30

Abula: there's still the qustion with Karlis...

Post by **Abula** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:33

8-ball wrote:Abula: there's still the qustion with Karlis...

He was a state editor. Just answered in my previous post.

NectarIn · Post by **NectarIn** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:35

How can you be so sure?? You,ve cheked all replays, and only DMD's recs was cheated?.. Russian elmers are shocked to, some of them think, that it's provocation, and I cannot deny this opinion...

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:39

i just hope u are sure, and that this new program u discovered it with, doesnt have any errors that make mistakes.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:43

8-ball wrote:Anyway, I'm this shocked:

i`m too

CaeZar · Post by **CaeZar** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:52

Omg I'm really shocked! I can't belive it ;S

Will he be banned forever at irc and moposite?

Post by **Abula** » 5 Aug 2004, 18:55

I haven't checked all replays yet as I told. But about 30/44 of DMD's WRs and they all are cheated. And of course I've checked Zweq, Tor, Cloud etc. Don't even ask.

The program is still a bit hard to use and it has some weird things I didn't understand when milagros told about them but still. DMD's replays are absolute obvious. I wouldn't post this or the news if I wasn't 100% sure, don't you think.

I have or had nothing against him. I didn't hope he cheats (like some people did) at all.

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 5 Aug 2004, 19:02

This is log from edg's (autoplay cheat author) visit @ #across.

As I know, he gave the autoplay to DarMoeD year before he released it to public.

Post by **Abula** » 5 Aug 2004, 19:05

IRC has nothing to do with Moposite. DMD will be banned for one year on Moposite like I told on Moposite news. I can't speak for other sites etc.

8-ball: I hope you didn't get the idea DMD got it one year before from me. I just noticed you that he cheated about one year before edg spread the program. Most likely he didn't use this Autoplay edg shared. Must be something more advanced.

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 5 Aug 2004, 19:08

I believe that he used edg's program's idea and improved it...
And no, I didn't think you gave him the prog

And how did you detect it?

John · Post by **John** » 5 Aug 2004, 19:13

Bit shocked and bit disappointed at DarM...

pedro · Post by **pedro** » 5 Aug 2004, 19:20

omg i cant belive darm cheated... he inspired so many kuskis and then we get to know he's a cheater!? im so disapointed right now...

Rez · Post by **Rez** » 5 Aug 2004, 19:23

And for people who don't believe me can check it himself. Just take one DMD rec, rename it and put it along ten replays pack which are your own recs (they are renamed too) and give me. I can pick up DMD's replay.

Lassi Copperfield

im shocked too

insane guy · Post by **insane guy** » 5 Aug 2004, 19:36

wont say anything....

Post by **Abula** » 5 Aug 2004, 19:39

8-ball wrote:And how did you detect it?

Won't tell. That knowledge might help to create better cheat tools. Only the anti-cheating team is allowed to know.

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 5 Aug 2004, 19:40

u shouldnt tell you know who cheats either

cyre · Post by **cyre** » 5 Aug 2004, 19:43

And you shouldn't open your mouth every time you feel there's something coming out.

onlainari · Post by **onlainari** » 5 Aug 2004, 20:14

if you look closely to 2 different players recs...I think it as a possibility that you can separate which one belongs to who by checking the hex code. Those 2 players won't have same operating system, graphic cards etc configurations and so their elma works slightly different and that means that every PC creates some individual rec-files ... and if you make good enough rec-analyzer, you may recognize which rec belongs to which PC. Remember ,that this all could be possible,so based on this,can you Abula still be 101% sure ?

I hope he didn't cheat and this can be fixed some how, it's always a time of mourning if something like this is true

Post by **Abula** » 5 Aug 2004, 20:37

It's not about that. Different. Can't explain though.

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 5 Aug 2004, 20:53

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too stunned to say anything else...

Next time use spaces. -Abula

Squip · Post by **Squip** » 5 Aug 2004, 20:54

Great job anti-cheating team!! Feels good that we have you guys, protecting us from evil forces....like the Men in Black

Deserves mega credit!

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 5 Aug 2004, 21:20

WHAT ???

DMD cheats...well, i can't express the words to say how i am shocked

Ramzi · Post by **Ramzi** » 5 Aug 2004, 21:21

OMG!!!!DarM cheater no no i cant belive it.btw.Sucky move did DarMoeD.
FU

KickZ · Post by **KickZ** » 5 Aug 2004, 21:31

Omg, what a shock

. If this is true, we have to give credits to Abu and mila for their work to reveal the truth of these cheaters. Good work guys.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 5 Aug 2004, 22:02

ez prog
only good idead needed

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 5 Aug 2004, 22:14

DaemoN caught cheating

Post by **Abula** » 5 Aug 2004, 22:38

milagros wrote:DaemoN caught cheating

Or at least one replay he claimed to be driven by him.

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 5 Aug 2004, 23:09

or some more now

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 5 Aug 2004, 23:09

Abula wrote:
milagros wrote:DaemoN caught cheating
Or at least one replay he claimed to be driven by him.

No,... not DN, such a nice guy

Hope it's false...

Post by **Abula** » 5 Aug 2004, 23:17

Moposite has official reported about one cheater and he is DarMoeD. We have so many replays of him and they all are obvious. Not more cheated WRs found yet but we are going to check all oif them as I've told. milagros is going away for a week and during the week this project won't go forward. I'm not so good at programming so I leave this work for milagros. He is also going to develop the anti-cheat tool.

For next I'm updating FEM04 stuff and then Records lists without DarMoeD. WCup4 and WR table when px is back to home.

Post by **Abula** » 5 Aug 2004, 23:23

So far 9/11 of DaemoN's replays are cheated. I want more, he himself could mail all his internal record replays to me.

WkE · Post by **WkE** » 5 Aug 2004, 23:50

note: as you can guess i took a vacation from elma. i check moposite every now and then, when i have time.

on topic :

at least we don't lose the WU 14,07... (gratz tor)
but damn, 36TT looks so far away.

btw, doesn't it make mila the best kuski ever? after all, he's the only who took all of DMD's wrs in one day...

Rez · Post by **Rez** » 6 Aug 2004, 01:47

But why did you suspect darm? Do you thozght: "Hey, theres something strange in his rec. lets check it!"

amcsi · Post by **amcsi** » 6 Aug 2004, 02:04

I can't believe it! The fan sites! he was a big cheater all the time :/
well i kinda did think it was a little extreme to so call 'return', and then take 1/3 of all of the levels' first places that easily

Juble · Post by **Juble** » 6 Aug 2004, 02:05

Congrats karlis on Warm Up WR!!!.....guess all that playing paid off heh?

anyways its pretty sad that people would cheat in this game, i thought darm was an ok person but now i know why he didnt really share some of recs.

danitah · Post by **danitah** » 6 Aug 2004, 04:19

this cant be true

all the "great" players are cheaters

great work abu and mila collect em al!

DarMoeD is a cheater

DarMoeD is a cheater

asd

Re: asd

Ohh, s t!

asd

damn