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Re: Wich styles you just dont GET?

Post by SveinR » 20 Aug 2004, 14:04

BarTek wrote: - Tricks Abound last apple. Many have problems with this so i wonder is there some "quepoints" u can use to take the apple and not die?
Ahh, I thought this was impossible for me, until yesterday. If you look at replays, you'll notice they'll stop using the gas, and then pressing brake, and then gasing again only for the jump. It was actually just as easy as that.
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Post by J-sim » 20 Aug 2004, 14:04

I have exactly the same problems with Hill Legend and Trix Abound as you, those levs are just gay...

I also once had biig trouble with the trick in Apple Harvest ~20secs into the moposite replay, never made it grrr.

Hi Flyer bounce. doing that really fast is hard for me. how was it again vsync on or off?

Quick Round last brutal"bounce" and uphill omfg i hate that :evil: :evil: this one i really don't get, almost as gay as trix last apple.

Havent really tried that much but haircut start seems pretty damn hard.

and wahtefakc is up with enigmabounce?! that lev is also just stupid.

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Re: Wich styles you just dont GET?

Post by 8-ball » 20 Aug 2004, 14:05

BarTek wrote:Free Fall 12 sec style. When you jump to the triangle are you suppose to gas all way when you touch it or not. I always die with head. Fittstyle if you ask me, whats the thing with this level. I dont orka spela to find out the "aha" thingie on this lev help!
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Post by Kopaka » 20 Aug 2004, 14:19

Enigma bounce: Either I don't have enough spped after the killers, or I have to much speed so I die at the killers.

Tricks Abound last apple: Same thing as BarTek

Animal Farm over chicken head: Juble said I should wait a half sec at the apple, before jumping back up, I came closer, but I still can't do it :/

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Post by Cloud » 20 Aug 2004, 14:43

Hill Legend and Freefall I had to figure out by myself, I asked a few of the guys that had done those tricks but got quite meaningless answers...

When you start to jump off the ____| on Hill Legend you have to press a bit brake there before gas + ->.

On Freefall you gotta tap a bit gas now and then at the triangle, also press gas right after the backwheel of your bike has gone to the otherside of the triangle and starts touching it.

About Tricks Abound, it's not hard at all if you don't have too much speed, as far as I know there isn't any special trick involved. However, when you have much speed it's quite hard, I haven't figured out a way to cope with it. In fact I mostly die there.

Have vsync disabled if you are going for the Hi Flyer bounce.

Enigma bounce is easiest to do when you don't have too little or too much speed there. Also don't press brake too early, let the rear spring get compressed really well.
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Post by zworqy » 20 Aug 2004, 21:28

fucking freefall :evil:

great topic, btw.
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Post by sierra » 20 Aug 2004, 22:01

I once asked Bokhylle about freefall, he said to leave the gas as late as possible, and if you see his rec it's true, the engine is silent for a long time

One style I just don't get is QR first trick, getting the apple and bouncing back. I did it like once. Every rec is different in the way they do it, which I don't like; I can only do stuff where there is a standard, everyone-does-same-move method. At least with the second part I know how I should approach it.

Also Twin Peaks! I have never done the start even once! It is worrying me.
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Post by John » 20 Aug 2004, 22:57

sierra wrote:Also Twin Peaks! I have never done the start even once! It is worrying me.
When alovolting out from starting balcony dont use full gas, I tested the lev some and I release gas just before the backwheel leave ground. U make 2 alovolts/supervolts (whatevah) and when ur wheel touches that platform (u dont want to land too far to the left on it, therefore not full gas at beginning) u press gas+brake+right. Hopefully your frontwheel will get a good angle (slightly just under the startingbalcony), now release brake and squeeze yourself down under the startingbalcony turning your head away from it.

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Post by milagros » 21 Aug 2004, 14:03

you can do ff also if you gas all way down
the later you start to gas the better time
anyway it's ez also on win xp

i can't help with hill legend, made it 3 times i think

in trix i don't see any troubles...it's i would say ez
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Post by JeMsTaR » 22 Aug 2004, 10:35

srry guys but wat is a vsync? and how do i get it... so srry guys too n00b eh?
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Post by The_BoneLESS » 22 Aug 2004, 16:20

The thing i don't get is Freefall ;

I succeed pretty often to jump to the right triangle but, even if copy PRO recs, my head hits the side of the triangle...

Frustrating :x
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Post by John » 22 Aug 2004, 16:52

The_BoneLESS wrote:The thing i don't get is Freefall ;

I succeed pretty often to jump to the right triangle but, even if copy PRO recs, my head hits the side of the triangle...

Frustrating :x
probably just wrong timing when pressing left
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Post by xp » 22 Aug 2004, 18:04

Whats the secret with flat track :?: :oops: :cry:
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Post by Karlis » 22 Aug 2004, 18:36

xp wrote:Whats the secret with flat track :?: :oops: :cry:
yeah tell me too, the start is something weird :cry:
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Post by John » 22 Aug 2004, 20:43

Karlis wrote:
xp wrote:Whats the secret with flat track :?: :oops: :cry:
yeah tell me too, the start is something weird :cry:
ye I have max problem with that too :(
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Post by John » 23 Aug 2004, 12:28

I really hope gas+brake+left isnt necessary when pushing away cuz I cant press that, ez only gas+brake+right possible here :S
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Post by John » 23 Aug 2004, 14:44

what do u think I do already? ;X must be something else like wrong timing when pushing away, more speed or just do some bangotrick while landing, I think the landing is my real problem, cant get speed enough to do longjump from there
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Post by teajay » 23 Aug 2004, 16:18

uphill battle, how the f*ck do you do that? :roll:

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Post by chux » 23 Aug 2004, 17:12

Agh! Uphill Balle...I did it once and got abotu 0.05 away from ElmaTimes 'good' ranking. I need to do it again but I cant
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Post by pedro » 23 Aug 2004, 17:33

how the hell do you do steppes prostyle? i always have a problem trying to get that jump over the pole place right. is there a special something i have to do there?
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Post by Revolt » 24 Aug 2004, 09:55

enduro - i have trouble getting to that platform in the middle of the cricly part.
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Post by Luther » 24 Aug 2004, 09:57

release gas OR touch brake
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Post by Luther » 24 Aug 2004, 09:58

release gas OR touch brake
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Post by John » 24 Aug 2004, 11:42

I start getting the Flat Track-style now, made some 15.xx yesterday and think I will play some more today.
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Post by Ramone » 24 Aug 2004, 12:44

I just don´t get how ppl can waste so much time trying to get a style.
ppl should focus more on love
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Post by sierra » 24 Aug 2004, 13:08

then what if someone loves a style
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Post by Jonas » 27 Aug 2004, 09:55

:PP....can´t take that apple on the upper right in tricks abound, how do you do it??
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Post by Ramzi » 27 Aug 2004, 13:47

i cant do bounce at LaBpro
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Post by John » 28 Aug 2004, 13:09

BarTek wrote:thats why ppl like ramone dont know how to bounce 8O
quite strange since it works pretty much the same at enigma where ramone has quite decent time
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Post by Stini » 28 Aug 2004, 16:49

John wrote:
BarTek wrote:thats why ppl like ramone dont know how to bounce 8O
quite strange since it works pretty much the same at enigma where ramone has quite decent time
I have problems with it too (and I know how to play Enigma :wink:)...the direction of the bounce is just too random.

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Post by Ramone » 31 Aug 2004, 16:51

trick with labby pro bounce I noticed is that you dotn have bike same angle as when you bounce in normal places (enigma/serp/zz/ALL LEVELS)... cause then you dont get a bounce, that was my problem.. in normal levels you kinda aim with frontwheel... and can control angle like you want... in labby pro you must get frontwheel much more to the left than you think... so it feels as if you would try to bounce left into the wall... it´s werid. it works.
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Post by chux » 5 Sep 2004, 15:21

I got another one!

How do you get the flower the quick way on Fruit In The Den? I see all the rec of people just 'doing it' but it never works for me...
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Post by sierra » 5 Sep 2004, 17:46

Fruit ending was luck for me, although i hear there is a slightly slower way to do it that works more often

basically i just slow down ever so slightly, so as to give a bit of spring to the suspension, then jump up, give a little gas but don't gas the whole way (or else you spin too much), and volt when you're right under the flower, it has to be so that you think you missed it
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Post by dz » 6 Sep 2004, 09:57

Fruit end is simple, when you jump towards the flower, let gas go, then swing to touch the flower. Otherwise "normally" we tend to keep gas on when we jump there and the bike turns too much making us to miss the flower.

I explained this better on the other topic, can't remember where it was..

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Post by zworqy » 7 Sep 2004, 21:37

Precarious bounce over killer

I can't bounce long enough... ?

It's not even possible to get over the killer if u put a wheel on top of the pole and drive on it.
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Post by John » 7 Sep 2004, 22:07

BarTek wrote:I mean try to get the force of the wheel centered in the < corner of the polygon, not over or under. Just feel damnit!!1
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Post by Ramone » 8 Sep 2004, 09:55

Bartek, John. What fucking level are you talking about. I am totally lost... don´t get it.
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Post by Epsilon » 8 Sep 2004, 11:41

i don't get twin peaks wr style!
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Post by Boomer » 8 Sep 2004, 11:42

Internal 25. Precarious :wink:
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Post by Lukazz » 8 Sep 2004, 11:57

yes precarious is annoying

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Post by John » 8 Sep 2004, 16:13

Epsilon wrote:i don't get twin peaks wr style!
check my tips somewhere up there^
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Post by Ramone » 9 Sep 2004, 08:53

I just don´t get endbounce in zz. It is fun, but so fucking stupid!
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Post by John » 9 Sep 2004, 14:08

ramone wrote:I just don´t get endbounce in zz. It is fun, but so fucking stupid!
yeah right ;X bet u do it every time u get that far ;|
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Post by Ramone » 9 Sep 2004, 23:55

I dont. I played some zz last days and I´ve gotten there fast enough for 1:00:xx maybe 20 times. no finishes. and 2 times I made 59 rides and no finsishes. I just cant do it anymore. Not too often anyway. sucks...
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Post by Snipey » 10 Sep 2004, 22:05

Hmm what style do i not get... basically every levels record styles. :x
Ive been goin through every internal trying to mimick something close to the world records to cut my TT as much as possible. I know its probly a joke to most of you but im just hoping i can get it under an hour.
Right now i got past most of the levels improving my time a good amount overall but theres still the levels like enigma and zigzag where i feel ill never get the tricks down.
Im up to bowling now and with only 1 time through the pipe after probably over 100 tries, im starting to get a lil frustrated. If anyone can come up with a universal tip for people that arent as amazing as the rest, thatd be awesome.

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Post by Snipey » 11 Sep 2004, 00:51

Thanks for the advice, my roomate and i practiced hooked for days straight. my best legit score being low 20's with my glitched being 13:06 :lol:
funny, soon as i read this i went and tried hangman and improved over 5 seconds first try. sadly i only improved it to 28's
seems the hardest thing to learn, harder than most shortcuts, is learning to be smooth. after watching all the WR replays, there is no slower moment.
i wish you woulda mentioned tag in your list, because after hours of practice i got the level down to an art, everything except taking the momentum from the back tire stick and getting the flower in one move.

i also have a level that a friend made that i think would be a great level to see what kind of times people could get on it. to me its a semi-tough level and as always the lower the time the harder it gets. for some reason geocities wont let me upload the level there so maybe there is another way to go about getting the level /rec to everyone.

Thanks in advance. and thank again bartek for your suggestions. will do :-D

oh yeah one more thing....on your bowling suggestion, do you mean go through it backwards and try coming through that pinched hole about the pipe, or do you mean go through normal and try to get through that hole?

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Post by Kopaka » 11 Sep 2004, 08:23

Using the hole above the pipe in bowling is not nesesary faster than normal way.

Snipey you can upload it on www.mxb.dk/upload.php or http://vk0.dk/ratemylev.php

And to see in which levels you should be able to improve you can compare you stats with someone else with a little better tt than you, on http://vk0.dk/elmatimes.php or http://stats.elastomania.ru/

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Post by sierra » 11 Sep 2004, 12:41

Snipey, it's almost pointless trying to copy the Professional replays on most levels. For example, watching some 3x,xx in Quick Round won't help you at all, neither will 19,xx in Enigma. You need to find intermediate, decent recs that use easier styles. Probably the best resource for these kind of recs is Moposite's Old WR Replay section, but also http://vk.mine.nu/ratemyrec.php has many. I mean, you'd probably never figure out the 2-round style in AH on your own, so go and see the rec. Same with levs like Jaws, there is an easy 1:15 style that you could never possibly imagine from watching 37mopo.rec
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Post by nony » 11 Sep 2004, 22:22

hi guys.
i've been playin elma for 3 yrs, but i only have my own computer for about 6 months. i've always been watching ur replays and so on and so on. now i got to 50.xx on my TT (i know it's still poor so don't laugh :roll: ).
but, my biggest problem is that i cannot do the "supervolt" (i hope that's what u call when pressing left and right at the same time) out of a sudden. i have to press first left (or right), the biker moves, and then the other direction so that he will do it. i tried when starting a level to press both left and right at the same time without pressing anything alse. it still diesn't work!!! 8O :x :roll: :cry: and while i am doing the supervolt i also cannot press the brake or the gas.
i know it is stupid, but please please pretty please tell me, is it my keyboard who's at fault, or just my poor knowledge on this game?
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Post by Juski » 11 Sep 2004, 22:33

Its called a supervolt what ur doing, ur trying to do an alovolt(alone supervolt) and thats very different depending on keyboard, and ur keyboard, like mine, is maxed at 3 keys at a time thats why u cant do it.
Download 1.2 then u can have alo key(presses right and left for you)
and then you will be able to gas and brake while ur alovolting.
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