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Well, first of all, if I recall correctly, I already asked you for your replay :P

However, I don't really find it necessary anymore: I've got some 15.xx recs, but I just don't get what I do wrong. Tried merging, tried everything. I just need to get the right combination of keys.

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You know what, your replay might be useful anyway ^^ tia
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alo, then just afer it brake, than turn+gas, left volt, right volt
for me the tricky part was to turn kinda fast and i think the secret is to not press alo&brake at the same moment, but it's not an issue if you're just aiming for a 15.xx
btw u can see it all clearly on a rec o_O
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hmm maybe i should try hangman me too soon
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wiElOryB wrote:alo, then just afer it brake, than turn+gas, left volt, right volt
well yeah, I can tell that too, but look what happens in the left volt part:

http://zworqy.com/up/files/21fail.rec

in every 15.xx replay I've seen so far, the player manages to "kick" the backwheel (the wheel on the hang) a little bit backwards, and I believe that this is what makes the difference. I just don't know how to do that.

Any advice?

(oh and thanks)

EDIT: nevermind, got it. I'm really close to 15.xx now, just need a good run.

EDIT: 15.41
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uphill part in Zweq's 54:xx Tunnel terror
have anybody any advice/real rec?
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how to do the turn in over and under while taking the last apple? i'm always too slow for it.. does it give much at all?
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berhabdul wrote:how to do the turn in over and under while taking the last apple? i'm always too slow for it.. does it give much at all?
what ? the second and last apple of Over and under ? It's almost impossible to miss... :?
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dunno what he means with turn, but i miss the backflip that you are doing there...
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Berhadbul, press brake before jump on first apple, on top of the ground. :)
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OtorK wrote:uphill part in Zweq's 54:xx Tunnel terror
have anybody any advice/real rec?
thanks
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Post by Lukazz »

what's the problem? send a failed rec pls, then i can try to help you
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berhabdul wrote:how to do the turn in over and under while taking the last apple? i'm always too slow for it.. does it give much at all?

use alias brake when hitting the wall, never release the gas and just practice hitting the wall perfectly, saves some vital hundreds.
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petsen wrote:
berhabdul wrote:how to do the turn in over and under while taking the last apple? i'm always too slow for it.. does it give much at all?

use alias brake when hitting the wall, never release the gas and just practice hitting the wall perfectly, saves some vital hundreds.
alias brake wtf? :P
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maybe he tried to express gas + brake so you dont lose teh 0,1-0,3 like nabs usually do when using brake alone
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yeah i dont see why anyone would use brake alias if you've mastered brake + gas at same time. even on the most painful of uphill levels, on the most frustrating brake + other key combination starts i've always found equivalent workarounds

someone (zebra i think) mentioned that brake alias gives you some 10% more grip.. if it truly is an ALIAS for brake i don't see how thats possible. can zweq or someone confirm teh
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what's the difference in bike behaviour between [brake] and [gas+brake] pressed?
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ez not use brake alias when 4 fingers on arrows :) liek me.
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berhabdul wrote:what's the difference in bike behaviour between [brake] and [gas+brake] pressed?
no difference, except when you release the brake, you're already throttling. Twin peaks start is good lev to test the huge difference from such a small thing
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Any tips for reaching the flower in Fruit in the Den in a better ratio than 1:50 tries? :(

Right now my style is just driving on that last platform (both wheels on ground), releasing the gas a little bit, and then gas+right volt and hoping for good.. 98% of the runs end up with me missing the flower by pixels.

Any better style? Something with success rate of 1:2 or even 1:3?

(I already checked like 4-5 replays, couldn't figure out their style)

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you just gotta practice a bit on a train lev
http://up.k10x.net/aytppzywcsaqk/36t.lev
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Been there

just practiced my wrong style over and over again..
any other advice?

EDIT: made it. thanks anyway
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here's my 59.58 with unconventional end

http://up.k10x.net/osbcogrvxhlek/jt36.rec

the only reason i am fully capable of improving this ride is i am pretty good at elma (see my signature for a complete explanation)
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Zig-Zag, how to get bottom apple with conventional ~1:06 styles? Tried everything but not got once ;F
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Post by Ramone »

If you get apple from the right. as done in Tors old 1:03 rec... be sure to get good speed = land higher in uphill on way down than you do if you are going for mid bounce.

Then when you hit the ground before jumping up to apple. be sure to land ON THE FRONTWHEEL. otherwise wont get high enough... not as easy anyway.

Otherwise I guess you can just get it from top... if you do that there is no real trouble at all.

No Elma here so can´t show rec(s).

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I know I'm a serial style-not-getter, but still:

enigma - I have enough speed, I get over killers, but I can't make that wheel pressure thingy that makes you jump high! (not talking about bounce)

Here's one example: http://zworqy.com/up/files/47check.rec

I hope it's not luck or something, coz I already had like ~100 failed attempts over the last 2 days, and it's getting a little frustarting.

(as always, watching other recs and making trainlev did not help me)
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Post by Igge »

hmm.

1. since youre now überskilled at the last part, you should go up on the / before turning, for more speed. 2. i think your juping to the \ a bit too eraly before wheel pressure.


This is my nab finish. shold prolly make a new one if you look at my end hang (i gu back way too far cause im scared of not making it to the flower :roll:)

anyway http://up.k10x.net/ldkcchzbohqjt/lvl47.rec
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wke, dont brake that much so you will land on the back wheel after killers
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Post by teajay »

Dude, I remember you making that quick 30 second style when I was struggling to do it too, and I just couldn't do it. Now I have done the bounce style before you, and I have a little smile on my face. :P

I say good luck, you're bound to succeed soon. :)
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i dont even jump up to the \ but i go up the / and flip to get more speed...

http://zworqy.com/up/files/47hx.rec

dunno if that is any help at all its only a 32 cos its my only try of the slow shortcut
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Thanks all..

mila - I'll try that, thanks
igge, hx - speed is not my problem, so going up the / is kinda unnecessary

tijs - yes, you call that "one year of not playing" ^^
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wke, the only tip i could give you is to almost not use the brake while gaining speed on the downhill.

that was the cause of my non-success, just might be yours too
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i dont get appleharvest fuQ from 14 - 21 sec.. impsy
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Post by Lukazz »

pls help me with animal farm rooster! i just need ANY style that gives me 1.21 or so
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Now i have vsync off. :D Then im able to make some intenal styles --> many cant-get styles to can-get styles. :P
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Post by DaFred »

I know end sux but my question is why my bounce is always too short?
http://up.k10x.net/efhpsheyuatjw/07shit.rec
Whats wrong there? Maybe the bounce must come later? But how?
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i dont understand how to get immediately to the flower in fruit in the den. ive noticed in some replays people let off the gas a little and then volt, ive tried this, but for some reason ive only ever been able to get close to the flower, never touch it. this trick has always really bothered me....
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keep trying, that trick is always a bitch, letting go of the gas gives you a tiny little bit more push, but i could also suggest try variation of volting - liek left volt to push off the ground instead of right, and alo, sometimes wierd things work.

if everything fails, just keep hoyling in a practice level until you get it.
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there is a really easy way of getting it directly, but slower ofc.

just let the front wheel rise a little in the air and brake it down a little before the flower and volt to it.
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I remember when I had this problem. Then, after making it the first time, it became really easy.

The trick is to gas so that your front wheel comes off the ground, but not much, only like a fraction of a pixel. Then you stop gasing and let it fall down again, then, when its back down and compressed, you push right, turn and gas with the other wheel, and push again when your underneath the flower. Don't let your front wheel rise too high above the ground. Watch this rec, and try to like "feel" that the wheel is just about to leave the ground. When you get that feeling, you release the gas. But to begin with you can let it rise a tiny bit more. But if you let it rise unnecessarily much it will only make it harder to reach the flower.

The easiest way to learn this trick is to make a train level, but I assume you already made one?
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My problem is Freefall and I just cant reach the flower! F*uking annoying
I post rec witch I drove 10 mins ago and can you guys say what I do wrong pliiiis? :D
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i didn't actally watch the rec cause i think i know your problem anyway.

you need to go as far down the triangle polygon as you can before attempting the jump, i've actually gone off the other side before attempting to get further, and make sure after the second volt you turn and gas.
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SmaXa wrote:i didn't actally watch the rec cause i think i know your problem anyway.

you need to go as far down the triangle polygon as you can before attempting the jump, i've actually gone off the other side before attempting to get further, and make sure after the second volt you turn and gas.
Should have watched the rec: he didn't even do the second volt xd
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Nooow I understood:P need to get höyling
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just discovered this topic. makes me want to play internals.
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I really don't get hardstyle.. it's so lame. Come on, just listen to hardcore or stick with eurodance. Don't be silly.
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Can someone tell me whats the trick with the longjump in animal farm at the floor? where you jump directely in the rathole...
I made it a few times but have no idea why. I think its important to land left as far as as possible!?
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- gain the most speed you can from the last floating animal (i think it's useful to put pressure on front wheel on this animal)
- try to throw yourself the farther you can to the left
- land on the ground and apply pressure on the back wheel to get a bigger pop
- press left to make a frontflip
- land in the hole

long time i made this but i think that's how i've done it. (look Orcc, no coma!)
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the first two points are hard for me, cant get enough speed for some reason. Also I play with 30fps for the rooster trick what means I have absolutely no controle :\
But thx, I will try it =)
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double post... would be nice if someone could drive me a rec of the new style before first apple. Dont know why but I never land far as right as necessary on the hill (always to much left).
http://up.k10x.net/pbtmuehohehsk/16goil5.lev
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DaFred wrote:double post... would be nice if someone could drive me a rec of the new style before first apple. Dont know why but I never land far as right as necessary on the hill (always to much left).
http://up.k10x.net/pbtmuehohehsk/16goil5.lev
That trainlev has mongolow speed. Try changing the level a bit adding more speed and the trick will be a lot easier.
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