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Re: Wich styles you just dont GET?

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DUnno if this is exactly correct topic but fits anyway...

The start in freefall, starting to get the hang of it but never seem to go just as far up/right as I need to get speed to return :s is there any way of doing this without the brake/gas juggling in the start?

EDIT: added sample rec, is it possible with this kinda start?
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Yes.
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on uphill battle i always fail to brutal/get no speed after brutal/bounce

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I just Don't GET! how to do uphill in zigzag, every time I go over bump in bottom middle I either lose all speed or hit the floating poly on right side;<
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Ecchi wrote:I just Don't GET! how to do uphill in zigzag, every time I go over bump in bottom middle I either lose all speed or hit the floating poly on right side;<
Do you go over bump with speed (1.0x -style) or do you use the slower bump (5x -style)? Give a rec of a failed run and maybe I could help.
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something like this, the result varies though:P
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lean back more, and alo later.
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Igge said it, that was way too little backweight. If you check any successful rec with that style you can see the player comes to pretty much a complete stop at the top of the bump. After the stop, just let the bike fall over, press alo and then use grip to pull some speed towards the uphill. Don't know if that helped, but I hope so.
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We'll see when I try again=D Playing some battlefield atm so:P
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sry useless post
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merge with this for instance and you'll see your volts in the air are wrongly timed.
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Then use that style instead. Problem solved.
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ok
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Re: Wich styles you just dont GET?

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I could need some help with the new ah style. I thought it would be more than enough speed for making the hang but I never can reach the poly!? :(
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I'm not sure, but it looked like your first push was too late.
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Hmm, about all of them?!

Freefall
LabPro
Enigma - can't get over killers the pro way, have to volt in between tehn go the long way.
Headbanger - pipes r crap (I can't do them)
Uphill - I always bounce too high
Tunnel terror - can't do the get back up after the lower right apple
Steppes - always land before the wall!
Islands - go down the bottom since it's easier
Serpent - bouncing
Quick round - bouncing
Animals - chicken thing
Zig Zag - boucning to get first apple
Apple harvest - all the bouncing and cling wrap tricks, how do they manage that?
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You can't expect to be able to do all of the tricks just like that. Most of them take a lot (seriously, a lot) of practice. However, in most levels there are always easier tricks and styles than the pro styles, that are still quite fast. One thing you can do is to check old world records on Moposite. They usually show some easy to semi-hard styles instead of the hardest/fastest ones.
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Still can't get animal farm Rooster o,o
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the trick is to push back the very very pixel you get first apple. then ez win.
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What's the trick with jaws bounce? :(
It never is bouncing for me...
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I think I get jaws bnc, but it's too hard. Maybe I'll hoyl it in the future.

Btw I found interesting fact: when I play internals with timer off, I get much better results, coz i don't look at timer while I have good ride. I highly suggest it to everyone! :wink:
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i hate this lev, what am i doing wrong? :/
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Lukazz wrote:i hate this lev, what am i doing wrong? :/
http://up.k10x.net/bnkaiwepeapfr/11amsduafg.rec
why old start? the new one is so easy:)
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blah, was just random run, most of the time i use new style. but that wasn't really my question. :P
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i guess you missed teh appel:)
no rly, i suck at teh lev but i assume you need to land a bit lower in teh hole, so you get more vertical speed to get teh apple with this kind of volt (which will come a bit later)
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good tips, done, thx.
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Lukazz wrote:i hate this lev, what am i doing wrong? :/
http://up.k10x.net/bnkaiwepeapfr/11amsduafg.rec
do i have to teach everyone how to play this game? you lost too much speed at 16.8x.
im pretty good at elma
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and what am i doing wrong here? i've come as close as in this try literally a hundred times, but i've NEVER made it
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Add gas on teh platform before braking.
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I just dunno how should i gas/volt at Image polygon.
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gas almost all the time
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Tap the gas right before doing left volt for the second time so your bike tilts a little to the right side. It makes the jump easier and faster, but of course depends on the angle etc, so you might not use it at all on the way down. No need to use gas when landing on teh triangle, it just slows you down.
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Just wanna know if I'm nab and can't slide because of that, or if I'm nab and can't slide because of fps. To me it looks like I'm doing all right.
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At the brutal part you shouldn't release gas at all. Not even while braking so that there's no gas delay after brake release. Also at 15,8x you lost some speed which makes it all harder afterwards.
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didnt watch rec(obv). When it comes to the hi flyer brutal I think a low wheelie is the most important factor. Of course speed, fps, timings and stuff like that must be correct, but if wheelie is wrong you just wont slide even if the other elements are done correct(you might if head mega close to ground).
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you should junp
then again i don't know anything
maybe easier not to think abouut alöl things thought than not things thought ... or something..=?
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what do you mean by "low wheelie"? I did another try, holding gas all the time. This was my best try. No idea why I don't slide there.
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Don't release gas at 18,8x. What's your fps?
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I got 1400~ fps.
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Seems I can slide once every 500 try, but it's still not close. There's something else wrong?

Edit: 07wah; seems I'm not doing anything wrong, just managed getting up. Doing u30 on this lev is absolutely sick.
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OK, I have this problem: I dunno how to do int04 start correctly. Very beginning I mean - alo etc. I have some pro recs and people are always faster, e.g. I touch first apple at 9:5x - 9,6x and 9:5low is pretty max for me (ofc I mean old wrstyle). Zweq touches same apple at 9:35 in some rec I have. I can see I do this start differently but just CAN'T do it like Zweq does. So here's my pr rec, made maybe 2 days ago and plz tell me what to do.
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You should be holding gas at 1.80 and throttling on the wall to increase spin. Tap break once to stop the front wheel, and then throttle on the wall. That's basically it. Also zweqs rec is absolutely sick. Once you get it down you should be able to do .40-.45 somewhat consistently.
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Yeah, I always throttle too much if no brake and get too much spin. :) Dunno how Zweq does it (I have axxu's u30 rec and he has 9,4x at 1st apple), seems impsy. Share your secret Z-man, plz!

Thank you for answer trew, I'll try it.
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Pascal wrote:I have axxu's u30 rec and he has 9,4x at 1st apple
I have .4x on all my u30 recs.

If you get too much spin, your wheel attached to the wall to far up, so probably your alo was off. The wheel needs to come far down on the wall so you can push from it.

Edit: Tried it a bit since I haven't played the lev in a while... ended up doing 29.94 8)
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I hope you guys can help me with getting Steppes brutal. I copied exactly the moves from Hosp's rec but I don't get such high brutal. If you merge these two replays you will see that at the moment of brutal bikes coincide but one gets much higher than another. I suppose it has something to do with fps. I can see Hosp's wheel compresses a bit, while mine doesn't. I played with around 600 fps which is max for my pc. I know that Spef's WR is driven with 999 fps. Do I really need so high fps for this brutal or I just make something wrong?
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5.1x seems wrong in the first place (bad angle, push not strong enough). Even though you were at the same position afterwards, you didn't have the same momentum I think. Are you sure Spef used max fps? I don't think it's the best option at all.
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Madness wrote:5.1x seems wrong in the first place (bad angle, push not strong enough). Even though you were at the same position afterwards, you didn't have the same momentum I think. Are you sure Spef used max fps? I don't think it's the best option at all.
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Not Sure but i think u have to press a little less the brake when impulsing to right (7.8x secs on your rec) and a little after (0.10sec) maybe. But u got the moves, thats good. Just keeo trying (8
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This is the best I managed to get with SL. Indeed, I released brake for a short moment at 7.4x and pressed it again at 7.6x. Is it the proper way to do it? Nevertheless, I didn't get such good jump as Hosp. I noticed that at 6.7x when he presses volt and brake his wheel just stops in one place, while mine does a tiny slide forward and this I think is caused by different fps. Maybe I should use a slighly different style. I'm not sure. Can anyone upload a rec with good time driven with 600 fps or less?
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