Wich styles you just dont GET?

dunedan · Post by **dunedan** » 27 Feb 2005, 15:44

Ok, I need a bit more Freefall help

When you are at the triangle are you supposed to gas all the time? Something more I've to think about? Just need help to get from the triangle to flower. I have touched the start polygon a few times after apple but never the flower.

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 27 Feb 2005, 16:55

the answer is: no, dont gas all the time. unfortunately you need to get as close to death as possible without actually dying; being a pussy is not an option. very good players (i.e. 11,5x-11,6x) seem to be able to do this with quite low jumps but i found i needed max height from start hang in order to do this, so keep hoyling that. eventually you get such lovely height that its almost impsy not to reach flower.

dunedan · Post by **dunedan** » 27 Feb 2005, 17:30

thx
To get that sart jump, do you need to alo at the hang? Couse right now i don't.

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 27 Feb 2005, 17:57

heh i'd definitely use the modern start style... i dont think 11.xx has been done without it (feel free to prove me wrong)

dunedan · Post by **dunedan** » 27 Feb 2005, 18:12

Well, you can do that hang both with using alo or using a right rotation. But nevermind, I'll go hoyl some more.

dz · Post by dz » 1 Mar 2005, 06:16

I really really don't get Flat Track.

Seriously, how do you manage to put enough fast swing without braking too much to gain enough speed to jump all over the last big gap?

I manage to do the swing almost identically with good merge replay but I just can't get enough speed after the jump. I always have to brake too much to have balance before the jump.

Someone who has made the big jump succesfully, please share your comments...

I'm desperate!

Karlis · Post by **Karlis** » 1 Mar 2005, 06:45

dz wrote:I really really don't get Flat Track.

Seriously, how do you manage to put enough fast swing without braking too much to gain enough speed to jump all over the last big gap?

I manage to do the swing almost identically with good merge replay but I just can't get enough speed after the jump. I always have to brake too much to have balance before the jump.

Someone who has made the big jump succesfully, please share your comments...

I'm desperate!

personally I cant do even to first jump, but I think the secret is there anyway, its the timing, I think they "jump" somehow earlier than your mind says and the braking, do they even brake, I dont know, tricki lev, good luck(for me too)

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 1 Mar 2005, 11:59

i made goof flatrack ride once and it was after 5 mins of trying the start without turning
you simply get higher speed, if you're not turned that much i think
if you turn and press gas, you're turned too much if you do good first jump
if you do not that good start, you had to gas to save yourself

infected · Post by **infected** » 1 Mar 2005, 19:52

as mila said.. dont turn around and gas were you do teh 2 volts. than when you touch teh little downhill wait like 0.02sec and than brake a little. something like that :>

jonsi · Post by **jonsi** » 3 Mar 2005, 08:15

one more question about enigma.
what is the trick to land on backwheel after killers, i nerver manage with that.
i always land with front or both wheels.
Should i do the killer trick as late as possible or as soon as possible or something else?

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 3 Mar 2005, 09:35

its probably more about accelerating in the air. if you're facing backwards (towards the right side of the level) in the air and you're accelerating, you'll be spinning extra fast towards the ground and are most likely to land on front wheel. if you let go of gas, or maybe even accelerate facing the other way, it will counter much of this spin.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 3 Mar 2005, 11:05

i guess its not about accelerating in the air
i personally don't accelerate in the air (atleast in my best rec) and touch the ground with back wheel
its about the speed
you you go slower, you're longer in the air => you turn more => you touch the ground with front to both wheels

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 3 Mar 2005, 15:40

I guess it's the combination of those two then. When you go slow, accelerate, when going fast, don't.

Tm · Post by Tm » 6 Mar 2005, 10:05

i dont get AH one round bouce i do everything good all tricks but never do teh bounce .any help?

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 6 Mar 2005, 18:46

yes HOYL LIKE HELL is the only help
sorry no other helps

i still cant do the twin peaks beginning what's the trick or combination and when i have to gas or not gas or brake space etc

i do this alo brake turn gas alo normal brake gas left

John · Post by **John** » 6 Mar 2005, 19:06

Lukazz wrote:yes HOYL LIKE HELL is the only help
sorry no other helps

i still cant do the twin peaks beginning what's the trick or combination and when i have to gas or not gas or brake space etc

i do this alo brake turn gas alo normal brake gas left

John wrote:When alovolting out from starting balcony dont use full gas, I tested the lev some and I release gas just before the backwheel leave ground. U make 2 alovolts/supervolts (whatevah) and when ur wheel touches that platform (u dont want to land too far to the left on it, therefore not full gas at beginning) u press gas+brake+right. Hopefully your frontwheel will get a good angle (slightly just under the startingbalcony), now release brake and squeeze yourself down under the startingbalcony turning your head away from it.

This helped some I think

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 6 Mar 2005, 19:36

when i start to do alo from balcony and then i stop gasing, do i have to start gasing after leaving the balcony?

psteve · Post by **psteve** » 7 Mar 2005, 06:11

Lukazz wrote:i still cant do the twin peaks beginning what's the trick or combination and when i have to gas or not gas or brake space etc

i do this alo brake turn gas alo normal brake gas left

start holding gas. press alo at about .70s, then press space and let go of gas (and let go of alo if it helps) at 1.1s and then press gas and alo again at 1.25s (although you wont alo again until 1.65s). The times are just to give a rough idea how long you let go of gas.
Hey i didn't know it was .95s between alo's. There you go.

Tm wrote:i dont get AH one round bouce i do everything good all tricks but never do teh bounce .any help?

i found that letting go of gas while compressing worked.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 7 Mar 2005, 17:01

Doing twin start this way is easier -> www.kopaka.dk/dl/03stanQb.rec dunno if you are talking about that style though..

Tm · Post by Tm » 7 Mar 2005, 18:07

psteve thanks for advice . and Kopaka realyy nice Half-Pro begining style ,
first time made 19:90 old time 20:64

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 7 Mar 2005, 21:14

and what i have to do after this start? i dont have enough speed for a pro run

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 8 Mar 2005, 09:31

Yes you have. But the start is easier that the thing after the first killer.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 9 Mar 2005, 13:23

now i have a new problem: what is the trick in the freefall wr beginning it looks impossible

Crazy · Post by **Crazy** » 9 Mar 2005, 13:31

Lukazz wrote:now i have a new problem: what is the trick in the freefall wr beginning it looks impossible

copy WR replay and then hoyla. Just watch every single move in slow-motion if needed. Then hoyla again.. that is a fact. Just watch and hoyl!

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 10 Mar 2005, 18:27

hehe i have a new problem

http://vk0.dk/vkprivupload/rbvxojmn/44FUUUCK.rec

now i have problems with the way back

Post by **Abula** » 10 Mar 2005, 20:03

Lukazz wrote:hehe i have a new problem :oops:

http://vk0.dk/vkprivupload/rbvxojmn/44FUUUCK.rec

now i have problems with the way back

VK-urls are forbidden. Read the rules.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 10 Mar 2005, 20:33

oh
i never thought that i can be so stupid
http://www.mxb.dk/upload2/44FUUUCK.rec

pedro · Post by **pedro** » 20 Mar 2005, 17:06

I need help with bumpy journey start... after the hang i launch in the air to high and i waste a lot of time.. any tips?

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 20 Mar 2005, 18:42

I always lose speed after the swing at 12 secs in Hang Tight!

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 21 Apr 2005, 18:04

Whatefak how to do the push off part in the steppes?!? i know there will be some ez thing i just need to do, like to feel it correctly. My starts are good, for example in this rec i led the moporec. Yet i suck ass when it comes to get over the pole, can somebody maybe talk through what button presses they use? 10x

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 21 Apr 2005, 19:15

if u watch closely in ur rec sierra, u start gassing earlier than the moporec allowing u to pass it cuz it broke for a split second more. this action of gassing too early probably didnt give u enough speed cuz instead of getting speed from the recoil of braking, u lost speed from gassing too early. In easiest terms, u didnt get the full potential of the brake off of the hill and as a result , lost speed.

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 21 Apr 2005, 19:35

Hmm, maybe so. But should I really need as much speed as moporec anyway to finish the level? Plenty of idiots can do Steppes, surely not everyone does the start perfect.

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 21 Apr 2005, 19:43

hah ur right man...(i hear even milagros can do steppes) maybe its just the end or w/e

btw i cant do the damn grav ride quick ending...ez 24 tho when i get it

i have a couple recs where im extremely close but im not sure

id upload them but dunno ne other sites besides mxb...can neone tell me where else i can upload? thx

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 21 Apr 2005, 19:55

http://www.moposite.com/mopolauta/viewt ... ght=upload
Searching a little could help

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 21 Apr 2005, 20:07

hehe thx tj

heres a couple recs of a close grav ride end

http://www.kurki.buildtolearn.net/uploa ... /11omg.rec
http://www.kurki.buildtolearn.net/uploa ... almost.rec

and one fool around rec

http://www.kurki.buildtolearn.net/uploa ... 1style.rec

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 21 Apr 2005, 20:47

isnt GET a team?

Post by **SveinR** » 21 Apr 2005, 21:11

ribot wrote:isnt GET a team?

At least it was a team..

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 24 Apr 2005, 00:10

help me on flat track

http://zworqy.com/mopokuskis/replays/02helpme.zip

so close...

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 24 Apr 2005, 00:32

Maybe if u turnaround nad speed in air when u spin... should help u spin faster

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 24 Apr 2005, 04:04

Xiphias wrote:Maybe if u turnaround nad speed in air when u spin... should help u spin faster

Yes u spin faster, but you will land wrong and you wont be able to make 2nd jump.

Crypt · Post by **Crypt** » 24 Apr 2005, 06:16

I really dont get the styles, they seem max hard just to even do. Going through that pipe in Headbanger seems to be impossible!

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 24 Apr 2005, 06:23

in time as u get a better feel for timing, it will get easier and more understandable...the best thing to do is to just play!

Crypt · Post by **Crypt** » 24 Apr 2005, 06:30

some levels i just cant play, i just play the same levels I play everyday. Like i hate ramp frenzy and the last like 15 levels.

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 24 Apr 2005, 07:11

use the skills uve learned from the levels u like and apply them to the ones you hate

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 24 Apr 2005, 08:18

you should improve like 20 minutes before worrying about headbanger..

jaytea · Post by **jaytea** » 24 Apr 2005, 11:05

HOW TO DO FREEFALL UNDER 11.53 TEEACHME

Pertti · Post by **Pertti** » 24 Apr 2005, 12:54

I know that noob angers you but you dont have to fill the board with crap

Yeah crypt, here's a tip. When your total time is still so much over 1 hour, just dont try to be like pros with tt under 50. Dont try to compare yourself to them, dont try to be like them, just play enough and one day you will have tt under 50 minits.

Revolt · Post by **Revolt** » 24 Apr 2005, 13:17

Crypt wrote:some levels i just cant play, i just play the same levels I play everyday. Like i hate ramp frenzy and the last like 15 levels.

maybe if u actually played the game instead of being on this board, constantly refreshing to see if theres a new post to reply sum spam to, u wud get under an hr.

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 24 Apr 2005, 13:24

really i don't think there's anything wrong with a 1htt person trying headbanger shortcut. it's max ez just play it a while and see

and no need to make 50tt seem like such a big achievement... tt under 50 should take a few weeks max, maybe you're not watching very helpful replays

Pertti · Post by **Pertti** » 24 Apr 2005, 17:15

Few weeks from 1h 10minits? Absolutely not. When I had tt under 55, I had played for many months.

At least for me, under 50 is really something looking forward to have. I dont know when i will have patience to hoyl enough.

Wich styles you just dont GET?

Okiz Steppes help needed