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ok thx :)
I have about the same speed in real lev so I think that is the problem...
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What is wrong in this rec that I turned to fast at first apple und dont reach the 2nd apple? :\
Sometimes I get both but to rarely...
Isn't there any style for 2nd apple which works in 30% with good speed?
The alo style also doesn't work well for me
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That's the style I use, and I think almost everyone uses. You had too low speed when going to uphill, that's the problem.
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mh ok, mostly I have the feeling the speed should be more than enough but it never is ;)
then I keep trying, thx :)
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Can anyone tip me out:
HOW IN THE NAME OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD AND RIGHT can i "steer" my brutals where i want.
I've been trying out the wr-style in steppes but i keep failing because my brutals are too weak OR when i get enough speed and good compressed brutal the damn bike flies sky-high, which is good of course...only, the direction is ALWAYS straight up or backwards :evil:

This is max annoying. i remember noticing already some time ago that my good brutals tend to go backwards or anywhere but forward, but i didn't care because didn't have to use it anywhere....but now i'm screwed....just wasted 3h of my life on trying to get it right, do i need to use brakes after compression? alo instead of normal volt after compression? i'm beat, help plz :|
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try uploading a replay, might be easier to see what you're doing wrong then
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Kopaka wrote:try uploading a replay, might be easier to see what you're doing wrong then
yea, i have two replays of it and i've tried analyzing both at half and 1/4 and normal speed but i can't see anything of particular difference there :?
...seems to me that they just get max speed at the tip of the bump then just balance your way down throttling all the way, ofc, so that you get a nice angle for the brutal then at almost half way from the pole volt left, lock brakes, hope you get max compression without dying, (around this point i have no clue what i should do to get it going forward!) volt right, (or maybe the thing is here?) grip from the pole, little gas, alo over the pole and to teh flower :D .....except my brutal sends me volting up or backwards :blushes:

So, if anyone can shed some light on this issue i'd appreciate it. I hate to admit it but i can't figure it out so thx in advance :D
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try just tapping the brake quickly when your frontwheel is about to laeve the ground - that should give you some speed to the right.
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I think i'm gonna nail the steppes brutal-style soon :D

EDIT.

Oookay, wasn't really that easy. I get the basic idea and i keep getting good runs where i get my wheele ON the pole
but how can't i get over the damn thing, here's one nice run out hundred similar.

The speed is right, the brutal is just fine (though in john's rec the head goes like a pixel closer to the ground) i merged it with pro-replay and everything i do seems to go likewise, except when gripping the pole john flies past me and over the pole....how can i keep that rightward motion after gripping the pole!?!?!?!
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Help please...this is getting somewhat FRUSTRATING!
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I found what you were doing wrong.
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Puoskari: imo you didnt waste anything. Now you atleast know something about it, and thats much when you start trying it again. You know how it does NOT atleast work, so is easier to get it working. :wink:
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I just don't get the freaking apple jump in lab, always miss it by pixels >.<
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K, I'm tired oof this shit.. Can anyone please tell me how to reach the WHITE FLOWER WITH YELLOW DOT and wtf I do wrong?

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take the flower exactly like in this replay:
http://up.k10x.net/gbffnmrjaiblb/51Pawq5295.rec
also whole run of yours is pretty unclear and could be easily improved, like last apple. ez sub 1min then ;)
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cut yourself and bleed to death
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hmm... no.
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That was a shitty run and was made for example purposes only:P
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oki oki but does flower style work for you?
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Well, I made 1:00:xx earlier today, still eZ imp but flower style is so hard I cba hoyling it down lower before I gonna start hoyling WR apple style aswell:)
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what the fuck am i doing wrong? i always get good volts but never jump far enough
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I visited ravens 24tt acid recs and was trying warm up and made a rec which is very identical till 4:60 and then something happens that raven made a 14:12 or such and I a 14:33.
So is there some trick at 4:60? Or what did I do wrong?
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Pipes, always a 90¤ corner, I know HOW to do it but it doesn't work out as it should.
I'll guess piping ain't my best side :)
But I'm pretty noob so I don't care, hanv't even all externals finiished on my new pc :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNGtBM1bjXs @ HD/HQ some says it has low fps, but for me and some others it's great but rank or comment if you have any credits :)
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honestly i think that you should pay more attention to playing elma, than to making movies out of it
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i dont get the hook part of bumpy journey at the second last volt how does everyone get their front wheel so high, no matter what i have tried it just won't come up high enough to keep me low afterwards? do you have to let go of gas in a special spot or something .. no matter what i never make it far enough after .. even if i have tons of speed going in... whats the secret????
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Maybe up some rec for a closer look? easier to tell what's wrong then
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if you mean hangpart u must use some brake there
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Personally I found it was all about timing your volts, but don't forget I have 39.25 :roll:
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ok i managed to do it with a letting go of gas method, not as hard as i thought it would be. but still have a question ..

is the very start of the level a key part in dropping time off? the fastest i ever got with my start is 36.30 dieing at the end hang part going in. and i know i do the middle part pretty accurate to the the 36.6x rec i have... i noticed that the rec had alot of speed coming out of the hang section... but still i have a feeling the start is important, is this true? in the rec i noticed that the driver gets his wheel over the ^ right after the first drop->hang. i tried to mimic it but i had no luck.
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See Johns rec and copy volts like noob.
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so what is your time atm?
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37.90

but i did a merge and the start style is where the extra second or two beats mine and i still can't manage to get the timing down but im done hoyling it for now.
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I don't get the lab pro start. There must be some important thing I don't get :(
Sometimes I make it really well but maybe like 1/30 and that's annoying even more when I see raven who did it every time ;(
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you have to get more left at the vertex which you touch at 3:68 :wink:
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1. push vertex at 2,4 sec to get <---
2. at 3,6 sec your right wheel should be close to hit the corner, but only close
3. start throttling when suspension has fully bent on the corner
4. adjust the frontflip just like you did, but usually throttling on the vertical vertex is unnecessary when the part is done correct.
5. ???
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thx guys, seems to work much better but I need more hoyling :)
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I'll try to get it working too.
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In case someone dont get the Animal Farm start style I made a tutorial :D Also read the description, I forgot to add info about 60fps in the video itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cdw8eASXzc
Too much text in short time, you might whane pause some. Sry about that...
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that is very helpful! took you a while I guess?
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Not too much actually, 3 hours perhaps :) Hope it will be helpful
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really cool, thx =)
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Do you think it's worth a try for me?

(Though there is a problem: how the fuck will I be able to get that apple on the snake?)
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Maybe something like this?

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Bismuth wrote:Do you think it's worth a try for me?

(Though there is a problem: how the fuck will I be able to get that apple on the snake?)
Absolutely! The style can cut quite a lot and looks more difficult than it really is. Give it a try for a few hours.

Snakebounce is also rather easy:
- After landing on dinoneck press left and ride down the neck and back with some backweight. I guess the important thing for the whole snakebounce is to approach it with backweight the whole time.
- When at the place to bounce, press right and hit the brakes (identical to Circuitous-bounce)

Pretty basic bounce really, but DON'T press left to get backweight AT the bounce. Press left already when on the neck as said above.

This only works if you manage to dodge the dog's ear. If your speed from the turtle isnt enough for a direct jump over the ear you can still push away on the head of the turtle and frontflip over the ear to get the apple and drive on. But speed is crucial for bounce, you cant afford to get stuck on the dog.
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funny that today, tuning decides to be fine. before, the wheel always crossed the spike when pressing brake, but now works, im happy :P
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I don't GET how to make the end gravity part in gravity ride. I can't get the width or I miss the 2nd apple in the [_] [_] thing.
plz can someone explain it. I try the John style but maybe there is an easier one?
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Hi flyer wr style.... HOW, WHY, WTF!!!

Is there any hope? any tips?
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Always hope, but for how long have you been trying?
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2days now is 3rd
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