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What is "hoylish" to you?

Post by zworqy » 27 Sep 2004, 22:12

When staying on #battle it has become clear to me that ppl don't agree on what levs are 'hoylish'.

To me hoylish levs are like Warm Up where the main style(s) are very obvious and the level is really easy and all you have to do to get good time is to PLAY PLAY PLAY! 8)
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Post by The_BoneLESS » 27 Sep 2004, 22:15

Hoylish : Levels which are not very good visually, but with some serious hoyling potential.

Hoyling : Play a level very intensively. [ See Crazy ]
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Post by Juski » 28 Sep 2004, 00:14

boneless :/
you did not explain what you thought whas hoylish, you just gave it another word: serious hoyling potential. And you know hoyla levs can be beautiful to, look at the tutorial pack(beautiful i think at least.)
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Post by The_BoneLESS » 28 Sep 2004, 00:53

Juski wrote:boneless :/
you did not explain what you thought whas hoylish, you just gave it another word: serious hoyling potential. And you know hoyla levs can be beautiful to, look at the tutorial pack(beautiful i think at least.)
If you follow your reading, i then explain what hoyling means for me...
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Post by Juble » 28 Sep 2004, 04:16

different people like different levels therefore people find different levels "hoylish"....duh.

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Post by Juski » 28 Sep 2004, 13:26

The_BoneLESS wrote:
Juski wrote:boneless :/
you did not explain what you thought whas hoylish, you just gave it another word: serious hoyling potential. And you know hoyla levs can be beautiful to, look at the tutorial pack(beautiful i think at least.)
If you follow your reading, i then explain what hoyling means for me...

ok sry bout the first point.
What is hoylish to you?
BoneLESS: It's levs with some serious hoyling potential.
And what do you think is searious hoyling potential??
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Post by 8-ball » 28 Sep 2004, 16:13

levs i can play for a long time, ie, no lev is hoylish for me :P
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Post by SveinR » 28 Sep 2004, 21:15

Well, levs that are fun to play, and there can be millions of reasons for this, are hoylish, if you're in the right mood ;)
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Post by Karlis » 28 Sep 2004, 22:37

well, all levs become höylish for me after hours of playing, depending of the lengt of the lev it can take from few mins to weeks playing to get on the "höyl-level" where your fingers start to work automatically on most parts of the lev, you dont have to think all the time what to press and you finish the lev quite often with good time

BUT if theres some really hard trick that you're trying to do and you know that when you finally do it youll clearly beat your current best time, then its not really höylish lev imo, eventho playing that lev much is höyling......mmm, im a bit tired now
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Post by 8-ball » 29 Sep 2004, 12:39

BarTek wrote:
Karlis wrote:weeks playing to get on the "höyl-level" where your fingers start to work automatically on most parts of the lev, you dont have to think all the time what to press and you finish the lev quite often with good time
Can anybody relate to this i have to say?

After i get so maxed used to a lev i do all parts and presses automaticly without thinking. But suthenly i for some reason think to myself "hey how do i press when i drive this lev" AND BOOM you forget the key combinations, you just loose the feeling. Beacuse you driven so long on auto mode you forget and dont think att all when you play.

The only thing left is the instinct that works like a RAM memory. SOmething distract you and you loose it and must start over

anybody else had this?
yes. on framework. hoyled like a zombie fro some hours and then after teh eat go beck and watefak what did i hev to pres o_O and suddenly cant do middle trick anymore...
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Post by Abula » 29 Sep 2004, 16:58

How about this definination: when clock is off you can't say if you beat your best time or not. But I think the crazy hoylas see 0,01 differences anyway.
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Post by John » 29 Sep 2004, 23:32

BarTek I agree totally, another thing u shouldnt do is to start thinking of where on the bike u look when driving, u'll ez get distracted and lose the feeling...
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Post by Zweq » 30 Sep 2004, 10:44

eh i cant lose feeling with some lev, i had not played tricks abound for a, lets say 8-9 months (except 1h tt battles), played 5 fucking mins til i improved my time/wr to ,67. then i played some more and got the ,1x. Really cant forget a style if i play too much (or what did you guys mean), sounds insane that you can lose touch

edit: ok should read what you guys write before writing own comment :S, I usually dont think what i press, listen music or something and you think about the music. Listen the music and let the fingers do the work
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Post by sierra » 30 Sep 2004, 13:43

hoyla lev - a lev that you enjoy to play, and hence you want to play it a lot

i enjoy levs that feel nice with the bike... it's fun to see the wheels sticking to a polygon because i got a certain jump right, or to get a really nice volt after some section, to catch the bike perfectly in a hang, etc.

what i don't like are levs that i'm not consistent with... like, there is no clear way to do a certain part, and even when i do it, it's not aesthetically pleasing. for example the AH brutal looks really sweet, so it's hoylable, but the Fruit in the Den start is just mango, so i hate it.
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Post by chux » 1 Oct 2004, 14:29

A hoyly level for me is one that I play over and over...
Hoyling is repeated playing, so as long as you play and play it becomes a hoyled lev...right? and to be a holyed lev it has to be hoylable...

But I know what you mean. Generally I think of a hoyla level to be quite short and all about the style. More or less any #battle lev is hoyly
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Post by ribot » 2 Oct 2004, 12:59

to me it means bulle with fruit
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Post by psteve » 4 Oct 2004, 03:27

A hoylish level isn't just one that you hoyl, but a level where you've got the style all figured out and can finish the level every now and then. Steppes for me isn't hoylish because I can't do the over-wall trick, even though I hoyled like crazy trying to do this. Over and under is hoylish for me because I seem to be able to improve my time every time I hoyl it.
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Post by JeMsTaR » 5 Oct 2004, 12:06

i just find hoylish something that looks cool. Hard, not hard, either way.
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Post by Crazy » 28 Oct 2004, 10:57

Abula wrote:How about this definination: when clock is off you can't say if you beat your best time or not. But I think the crazy hoylas see 0,01 differences anyway.
That's the exact decribtion.. :P
Though I always play shorter levs and often all times ends up within just a few hundreds.
Long levs can be hoylable for sure! But I just hoyl the shorter trax

edit: actually I don't know if it's PR when time's toggled on either
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Post by milagros » 28 Oct 2004, 13:05

i guess i'm one the the hoylas (of course can't compare to karlis)
but i don't see 0.01 difference, maybe 0.03 or smth
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Post by AtmaWeapon » 29 Oct 2004, 14:42

Isn't the definition of hoyling:
"To play a level many times with the sole purpose of beating a record."
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Post by Eklectro » 29 Oct 2004, 16:30

to me its like "loop" playing during several hours up to having a f***** time. consequence : pressing enter 600 times per hours...
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Post by milagros » 7 Nov 2004, 19:58

i'm hoyla cause of this what happened to me today

i was just going for the uphill at zigzag (and thinking about something) , made nice turn over /\, going fast to the top and WTF, where's the apple???
so i pressed esc, run replay and watched...
i was going down at that replay, made uphill, went back, took the 'brutal' apple with no brutal, going back, made another uphill....
that's what i call hoyling, no excitement of doing ez tricks
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