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Golden apple awards 2004

Post by Abula » 29 Sep 2004, 22:40

Time passes and it's again time to have the annual Golden apple award, GAA04.

GAA03
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For now we are gathering the jury. Me and SveinR in at least. You can suggest here the names, be realistic, don't suggest yourself. The person should have a wide view of the scene, not being just a good player. skint0r didn't want to be. We think 5-7 would be ideal.

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Post by zworqy » 29 Sep 2004, 22:57

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Post by Ebz » 30 Sep 2004, 05:29

agent vet with 42 min tt is best girl for sure
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Post by Juble » 30 Sep 2004, 07:10

BarTek wrote:what happened to the GAA03 ?

:?

ye 2003 *Pooooffff* forgotten, unless 2004 GAA includes 2003 ;(

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Post by bob » 30 Sep 2004, 11:43

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Post by zworqy » 30 Sep 2004, 12:49

Juble wrote:
BarTek wrote:what happened to the GAA03 ?

:?

ye 2003 *Pooooffff* forgotten, unless 2004 GAA includes 2003 ;(
GAA04 is for achievments during 2003, i think. It has been delayed because Abula was in the army.
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Post by sierra » 30 Sep 2004, 13:32

i don't understand, can we start voting for each category now? or is it just decided by the jury?

anyway, for the jury i think at least Karlis, Luther, Zweq, Bartek, dz, Cloud, John... these guys are active in #across and #battle, so they pretty much should know their shit. or maybe to make it so that not all are just TT hoylers and WR holders, u could include guys like Kopaka, 8-ball, zworqy. maybe each juror should be different to the others in terms of their role in the scene.
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Post by bob » 30 Sep 2004, 13:32

surely not.
it is called GAA04 therefore it should be based on 2004, not 2003.
also, the year is almost over.
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Post by 8-ball » 30 Sep 2004, 15:01

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Post by Kopaka » 30 Sep 2004, 15:49

bob wrote:surely not.
it is called GAA04 therefore it should be based on 2004, not 2003.
also, the year is almost over.
It should be for everything happened since last GAA, it's called GAA04 because it's held in 04.

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Post by SveinR » 30 Sep 2004, 18:06

To clear things up:

The last GAA was called GAA2003. It included achievements made from Jan 2002 to Feb 2003.

This one will probably be called GAA2004 and will include achievements made from March 2003 to a month close to when it will take place, say October 2004.
sierra wrote:i don't understand, can we start voting for each category now? or is it just decided by the jury?
You can just mention what you think would be the best combination. The final categories will be decided by the jury, who will take your ideas into consideration. Also, you could name new categories if you have some.
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Post by teajay » 30 Sep 2004, 21:21

I suggest dz, John and MP.

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Post by sierra » 30 Sep 2004, 22:02

You can just mention what you think would be the best combination. The final categories will be decided by the jury, who will take your ideas into consideration. Also, you could name new categories if you have some.
Yea i understand this, but I meant who decides who wins each category? votes, or jury?
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Post by 8-ball » 30 Sep 2004, 22:39

in jury must be dz, ramone, Cloud, skint0r, hmm.. Abu of course, maybe milagros, MP, Markku too.
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Post by The_BoneLESS » 30 Sep 2004, 23:02

Will there be threads in the Poll section where we could vote for best levels, recs and players... ?
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Post by J-sim » 1 Oct 2004, 08:02

Karlis and psy for jury members

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Post by 8-ball » 1 Oct 2004, 11:12

and BarTek

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Post by chux » 1 Oct 2004, 14:22

Kopaka wrote:
bob wrote:surely not.
it is called GAA04 therefore it should be based on 2004, not 2003.
also, the year is almost over.
It should be for everything happened since last GAA, it's called GAA04 because it's held in 04.
Bam! Its like Kopaka just stole my thoughts and put them right up on screen

ez John and Cloud for jury members
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Post by SveinR » 1 Oct 2004, 16:22

sierra wrote: who decides who wins each category? votes, or jury?
A combination. All stuff regarding the voting are far from being completed now. First, the jury has to be fully assembled.
The_BoneLESS wrote:Will there be threads in the Poll section where we could vote for best levels, recs and players... ?
Eventually, probably, yes.

How did everyone think it went out last time? With the voting, the show, etc? The most interesting feedback from you would be how you thought the voting went on. Should the community as a whole have more power in the voting system, or was it sufficient?
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Post by milagros » 1 Oct 2004, 23:16

not me in teh jury
i wann awin all categories fair :lol:
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Post by Flatley » 2 Oct 2004, 13:52

I vote px, jcl and Jokke for judges.
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Post by onlainari » 2 Oct 2004, 21:06

ebz:
agent vet with 42 min tt is best girl for sure
ohhh, did you guys know about this? I mean you possible jury members... if not, then I guess all the hoylas around the community should give info like that more often because so much happens and smth might get unnoticed(?) But if you knew this and you think everything that happens actually spread out and there is nothing big happening that active elmers doesn't know, then -np- , forget this :P -- but I didn't know this, and it's quite big :P 42min tt gal, coal

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Post by 8-ball » 2 Oct 2004, 21:07

i knew Agent_Vet has 42 TT but didn't know she's a GIRL 8O
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Post by SveinR » 2 Oct 2004, 21:57

onlainari wrote:ebz:
agent vet with 42 min tt is best girl for sure
ohhh, did you guys know about this? I mean you possible jury members... if not, then I guess all the hoylas around the community should give info like that more often because so much happens and smth might get unnoticed(?)
I agree, if people have some unnoticed info about something they think could be of significance, do post it here!

(Althought the 'best girl' category probably won't be in the GAA (it's not very broad...), 42 TT for a girl is quite big news (prev. best was like 49? or 5x?)
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Post by Juble » 3 Oct 2004, 02:26

Agent vet said she was a girl a long time ago, look in non-elma related discussion :lol:

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Post by Revolt » 3 Oct 2004, 02:33

Juble wrote:Agent vet said she was a girl a long time ago, look in non-elma related discussion :lol:
prob p driving under her name..... :?
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Post by Antz » 3 Oct 2004, 07:27

hmm, so you were not allowed to vote for yourself, ok...

how about this as a category: "Biggest amount of high quality battle levels made by a person not currently very active in elma scene due to his/her army service" ?

i think that'd be a good category, mostly because of the vast amount of people who belong to it.

maybe also: "Best new levelpack made of levels previously held as battles, with the packs level-amount being between 50 and 80"?

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Post by teajay » 3 Oct 2004, 09:42

Best Swedish, Finnish, Danish, English Kuski maybe?

and anyway, I think bob stated all. :wink:

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Post by ville_j » 3 Oct 2004, 14:07

I hope I will be THIS time nominated in Best Levmaker category...

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Post by veezay » 3 Oct 2004, 22:29

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Re: Golden apple awards 2004

Post by psteve » 4 Oct 2004, 03:20

My suggestions for awards:

Best kuski
Most improved kuski (greatest tt improve for <1hr)
Best battler
Best cup driver
Best new WR
Best new rec
Best new level
Best elma-related website

suggestions for judges: (assuming judges can vote for themselves, which I think they should)

Abula, SveinR, John, Karlis, BarTek, dz, milagros, and I like the suggestion of guys like Kopaka, BoneLESS, and Zworgy.
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Post by bob » 4 Oct 2004, 06:54

- battle designer (quality of battle levels)
- battle contribution
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Post by Zweq » 4 Oct 2004, 08:50

Antz wrote:hmm, so you were not allowed to vote for yourself, ok...

how about this as a category: "Biggest amount of high quality battle levels made by a person not currently very active in elma scene due to his/her army service" ?

i think that'd be a good category, mostly because of the vast amount of people who belong to it.

maybe also: "Best new levelpack made of levels previously held as battles, with the packs level-amount being between 50 and 80"?

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Post by Bonobo » 4 Oct 2004, 09:32

Abula, SveinR, dz, psy, terb0, cyre, Nostrada (?), Jeppe (?) - should be a jury with wide knowing about the elma scene.
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Post by Napoleon » 4 Oct 2004, 11:55

yep dz should be - and some like Bonobo said, and antz ;>

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Post by Juble » 4 Oct 2004, 12:43

you should pick a jury on there experience in different area's
example: cyre(battle type awards)... to dz,psy (level awards), Abu and SveinR(scene awards)....etc...

They don't have to be those people, its just a suggestion, its up to them if they choose to do it. :D

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Post by SveinR » 4 Oct 2004, 14:13

What noone of you have mentioned yet about the jury, which is kinda odd since last time we had big discussions about it, is how many from the jury should be from the nordic countries contra people from the rest of the world.
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Post by Juski » 4 Oct 2004, 16:20

SveinR i dont think that relevent as lnog as the judges are objectiv, and does not choose guys they know or from the same country.
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Post by 8-ball » 4 Oct 2004, 16:22

Yes I will have lots to choose from same country. lol.

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Post by chux » 4 Oct 2004, 23:31

When you do "Best kuski" stuff, dont just do it on tt...tt isnt everything...
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Post by bob » 5 Oct 2004, 05:01

iob, onla, megerle and terb0 should be on jury.
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Post by 8-ball » 5 Oct 2004, 15:35

then expand on:

best internalist
best extarnalist
best battler
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Post by XTC » 6 Oct 2004, 00:10

you should ez have a nomination for the "lifelong, doing no good kuski who never achieved anything and still terrorises the scene" :D

i vote for me my and myself 8O :lol:
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Post by dz » 6 Oct 2004, 08:55

Hmm... glad to hear some of you would pick me as a jury and I'm sure it would be great fun but unfortunately I simply don't have time to do that at the moment. :cry:

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Post by Zweq » 6 Oct 2004, 09:28

well i just hope it wont go like this: 't0r or zweq, they're quite equal, but t0r is nicer, ez t0r'.
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Post by Boomer » 6 Oct 2004, 12:00

I'll cry like a baby, if BarTek, ramone, or dz, isn't in the jury... :wink:
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Post by Napoleon » 6 Oct 2004, 12:59

nah nat bartek

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Post by teajay » 6 Oct 2004, 18:12

I think you will suit fine actually.

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Post by BPM » 6 Oct 2004, 19:24

I think aavv should be named for TT improvement. No portuguese kuski had ever heard of him and suddendly he appears on the tables, out of nowhere with something like 42:xx,xx TT.

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Post by Napoleon » 6 Oct 2004, 19:40

well, many kuskis does that i think
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