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noobs usually dont know which trick is hard
so my marks of which trick is how hard (1-ez, 10-hell hard)

1. wu - alo style - 2
2. ft - jump over first platform in wr style - 5
- jump over hole - 8
3. tp - start - 5
4. ou - over killers - 2
- fast end - 3
5. uphill - old style- 4
brutal - 6
6. longhaul - taking both apples - 4
- older end - 4
- newer - 5
7. hifly - jump direct - 2
- bounce there (depends on comp) 4-6
8. tag - one turn - 1
- turn after alovolts - 5
- bounce there (hard to say if harder) - 7
9. tunnel - bounce in lod style - 4
- turn at apple at beginning with uphill - 5
- end with newest style (might be faster) - 7
10. steppes - long run - 2
- 15 secs style -3
- 11-12 sec style - 7
11.gravity - new start - 5
- old style end - 6
- new style end - 7
12. islands - old style - 3
- bounce style - 7
13. hill legend - fast turn - 8
- slow turn - 3
- jump over pole - 6
14. loop - beginning - 2
- news style middle - 4
15. serp - big bounce - 10 (tried some...)
- zweq's bounce - 7
- middle bounce - 7 (hard to get them together..)
- raider's hang - never seen (and noone else made it i think)
ok, i'm tired now...someone should continue
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luther says something about harderestest gravity new style - 10
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milagros wrote:15. serp - big bounce - 10 (tried some...)
- zweq's bounce - 7
- middle bounce - 7 (hard to get them together..)
- raider's hang - never seen (and noone else made it i think)
what is zweq`s bounce, what is big bounce what is raider`s hang??? recs plzzz :D
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Post by MiEkk »

I think the "big bounce" would be Toringe's original bounce when he got 55.98, but I have no clue about Zweqs bounce and raiders hang.
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MiEkk wrote:I think the "big bounce" would be Toringe's original bounce when he got 55.98, but I have no clue about Zweqs bounce and raiders hang.
I guess Zweqs bounce is in his 59.37 rec. I`ve seen rec with raider hang too, but can`t find it now. Search in the "New styles? Hoylas please test them" topic.
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please upload the replays so we know better ;)
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Napoleon wrote:please upload the replays so we know better ;)
try the mopo recs, most of tehm are current styles ö
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Post by Abula »

Tisk made the hang style before Raider, let's say about half year before. Well at least I saw the style from him for first time.
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Post by sierra »

Raider hang, i've seen teh, looks harder than Zweq bounce. many people told me this as well.

Steppes 15 sec style = 3??? And you put Gravity Ride start as 5???? if by "new style" you mean the one Cloud did in Cloud&Tor rec pack, then this start is way easier than steppes imo
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i can do steppes old style like 80% under 15, 30% 13.high
it's simply ez
gravity start makes me no troubles, but it feels harder...dunno (maybe 4)
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and where can i find a rec of this hang style?
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Post by MJXII »

I completely disagree with most of those values. I guess different tricks are hard for different people :P
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Post by milagros »

make some values youeself
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Will do but not today :)
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Post by sierra »

oki i'll go for some that at least i know a little about

Apple Harvest brutal - 4
Zig Zag uphill with going up to take speed before - 3
Zig Zag uphill straight over the spike - 6
Ramp Frenzy start - 3
Ramp Frenzy middle shortcut - 2
Ramp Frenzy end shortcut - 4
What the Heck fly straight to pole - 4
Downhill big hang & drop - 6
Enigma killers - 7
He He bounce - 5
Jaws start, fall and hang on last spike - 7
Slalom end bounce - 3

thing is, the difficulty obviously depends on how much u hoyled. i put enigma killers as really tough but i know all the Enigma hoylers would give it like 2/10. Also those who hate ramp frenzy will probably disagree with the values i put for that.
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Post by jonsi »

i can only say that the "bounce"/jump in rampfrenzy is so ez...
i tested it 15 mins ago for first time and now i make it like 50%.
so i rate it like 2-2.5 cuz it isnt so hard it looks like
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Post by Freezen »

Hmm.. guess i should write my opinions as well..
Flat track start: 7 (i just can't make it) :x
Ramp frenzy: 2 start, 5 middle, 3 end..
Downhill start: 3
Downhill Hang: 6
AH bounce: 4
Tricks Abound last apple: 6
Uphill brutal: 4
Tunnel Terror start: 8 (very hard)
I can't make any more, i guess if i play some more of those, the values go down...
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Post by Kopaka »

And what exactly do you guys mean by Ramp Frenzy end?? I can't see anything in the end that is just near as hard as the start..
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my great opinions:
1. Warm Up
- alovolt start - 1
- wall turn - 2
- wall turn 4 buttons - 4
2. Flat Track
- old style - 1
- WR start - 7
3. Twin Peaks
- WR start - 5
- WR style middle jump - 5+1
4. Over and Under
- fast start - 2
- over killers - 1
- fast middle - 3
5. Uphill Battle
- big jump old style - 2
- brutal - 5

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9. Tunnel Terror
- zweq start - 7/8
- bonobo's style - 5
- bonobo's end - 6/7
- middle brutal under \/ thing - 3
10. Steppes
- 27 secs style - 3
- 15 secs style - 4
- 12 secs style - 6/7
11. Gravity Ride
- new start - 4
- end jump - 5
15. Serpents Tale
- old style - 2
- t0r old bounce - 8
- zweq bounce on \ - 9
- fast turn at landing - 7
24. Ramp Frenzy
- WR start - 5/6
- various easy start versions - 1/2
- fast uphill - 3
- middle up-hang - 4/5
- "big jump" - 5
- old style with long hang - 2
33. Zig Zag
- start - 1/2
- ramone brutal+uphill - 8/9
- ramone style finished - 10 (imo the most hardest style)
- plain brutal - 4/5
- fast over spike and uphill - 4/5
- go up before uphill for speed - 5/6 (harder than faster style)
- bounce after spike - 3
- 4th apple in 1:11,xx style - 5
- pipe end - 3
- bounce end - 6/7
35. Labyrinth Pro
- fast start - 2
- middle bounce - 5
- the "lab pro bounce" - 6/7
- fast end/before-end - 4
37. Jaws
- fall and hang on last spike - 4/5
- bounce - 6
43. He He
- start bounce - 3
- loop at left - 4/5
- fast ending - 4
- all in one - 6
47. Enigma
- fast turn - 4/5
- jump high for speed - 1/2
- killerjump - 2/5 (depends on speed)
- bounce - 6/8 (depends on speed)
48. Downhill
- start + fast hang - 3
- luther hang on < - 6
- long hang+fall+succesful landing - 5/6
- fast end - 3/4
51. Tricks Abound
- start - 1/2
- middle - 3/4
- last apple fast - 6
- end hang+flower - 3
54. Apple Harvest
- 2 pass style - 3
- 1 pass style - 5
- start - 2
- hang up - 2
- bounce/brutal - 4
- the rest - 3

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Post by milagros »

tor's bounce 8?
that middle bounce is definitely much easier
here you can the that players who didnt do many of the styles simply don't know what's hard and what's not
in zz there isnt any veery hard part, only hard to do it together
..waiting till tor or zweq write something
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Post by Cloud »

I think 8balle doesn't know which bounce is whose style, the giant bounce directly upwards from the polygon where you hang to is t0r's. Zweq's bounce was the one where he dropped all the way down to the lowest level of the polygon series and then bounced and volted to the polygon above it.

If not so, then you are terribly wrong since t0r's bounce is somewhat like a hundred times harder than zweq's.
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wasnt it t0r who first made wr with "zweqs" bounce and that was from platform right to the / ?
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I'd say that all single tricks are ez after hoyling, but 2 hard styles in a same lev actually makes the trick(s) to 'hell hard' yep. for example upside down hang is bloooody damn ez and the last high jump is llike 50% in training lev, but try to make those in a same ride. eh am i on a sidetracks? well the only single tricks that goes over 5 are like serpents bauns, hang tight wheel comprez(actually wheel compress is hard in any lev, its rare trick so im not very experienced with it), hmm what else, jaws bounce. useless to make a list anyway since there are so few very hard tricks after all. bla bla :P
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Post by milagros »

ok, we can say that the trick with rank 6 is the one that was not made yet :lol:
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Post by psteve »

i think your ranking in your first post is very accurate. i can do all 5's and under except steppes 15s (but will do shortly), and i can't pull of any 6's or over, except once did hill fast turn, got freaked, and didnt know whether to go over pole. got messy.
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