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px goes to Wacken Open Air 2005 and that's the first week of August (Neste Rally week).
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This topic is best only replied by those who actually can come. All "I might come" is not really of interest. Write instead when you can come. And decide quick to make it easier for us all planning it.

Let me remind you fem04 was a blast and totally successful, I don't see anything that would make FEM05 any worse

The now final preliminary date is set:
11-18th of June

The cottage will cost 805e: which all participants (with a few exceptions) will pay.

We also have to pay a fee in order to guarantee people their places and also to ensure ourselves of who's coming and who's not, this fee is meant for all participants to contribute to in advance. We're talking about a sum of between 15-25e depending on how many people coming (this sum is a % of the total sum you'll have to pay for the cottage, so let's say 20e would probably be approximately 50% )

This fee will be sent to Abula, 10th of February is the date for that.

All right, I have some names which I will tell here, guys I presume (or which I just thought) could come, and you should tell otherwise as soon as possible if I'm wrong:

Norway:
skint0r, t0r, Jalli (other guys please reply to this topic about this)

Sweden:
Luther, Bartek, ramone, oizo, magicman, madman (other guys please reply to this topic about this)

Finland:
axxu, juzam, zweq, mr, dz, tisk, orcc, abula, psy, jokke, karlis, terb0, vender (other guys please reply to this topic about this)

Denmark:
Danish guys could call me, and we could meet up in Gothenburg or wherever and drive together to Stockholm, if you're interested.

Other countries:
(other guys please reply to this topic about this)

So at minimum I presume we'll be about ~20 guys splitting 805e which would be ~40e per person - not much for ONE WEEK stay, if you ask me.

Now, you're free to write up your names. ;p
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would be extra coal to meet magicman, oizo, skint... but duno, i tend to depress on summer cus nating to do and when depress nat feel like meeting total strangers, speak english. its max stress :S. and if i get job then definetly nat cum
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I'm in.
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I will come, only need to get someone to drive me there, but i dont think its any problem.
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That date suits me very well.
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I will come but no idea how long. If I'll get work then I can't be there for week most likely. Who will rent the cottage? Who will bring the tables and chair? mr did last time but he isn't so sure anymore because that would force him to spend there entire week.

Would be nice to get some sponsors, by the way.
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I will come of course
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1) The meeting time is from Saturday to Saturday. That means that people who have only weekends free can't be there more than 1½ days unless they came there twice.

2) Where to get tables, chairs, fridges?

3) Who rents the cottage? No one can say for sure if he will be there for one week. I don't want to take responsibility because I'm not sure if I can come at all.
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I'm coming for the whole week. A place in someones car from Kirkkonummi would be nice though :P
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I just received a letter from the Finnish army, I have revision army training (correct term? kertausharjoitukset in Finnish) 11.-18. June, so unless I switch to civil service I will not be able to come if the FEM date remains the same. However, switching to civil service is also a possibility, I've thought of doing it several times before. If I come, I'll stay probably for a couple of days, a whole week seems too much.
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I'm coming overz if I can get a ride, don't think that's gonna be a problem.
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I'll come, but I have Finnish Championship tournament 9-12 June in Oulainen, so I'll come on Monday or late Sunday night.
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we have some non elma party in finnland (also capo) in july
so we can also go here probably
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Place: Leivonmäki, Rutalahti, near to Jyväskylä
Date: 13.-20. June 2005
Duration: 1 week
Participators: -
URL: http://www.huvila.net/cgi-bin/pager.cgi?huvila=257

The cottage is rent. For next we start money campang and ask sponsors :P.
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that's great. i'm so close to that place i don't think i can miss it. hopefully i can get yoosef to come with me or something, and hitch a ride from him..
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I'll come :P
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How much it costs to evryone if there comes 20
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We haven't made exact calculations of cost per participant. I'll make some kind of list about that "soon" :)

One thing worth noticing is that me or anyone else is NOT RESPONSIBLE for participants in FEM so you are on your own account. This means that people under 18 years need literary authorization signed by parents.
I hope you tell truth of idea of meeting for your parents (for example with these pictures: http://www.otit.fi/~krabula/gallery/vie ... me=album02 ), we really don't want ANGRY parents there ;)
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i will definitely come so count me in
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Timetable

This is just a suggestion which can be modified (please comment here or IRC or something) and will be modified when we see how many people will stay there the entire week. But in the meeting we will follow the final Timetable. Last years one of the biggest problems has been that we never managed to gather people at the same time to cottage to arrange compos etc. So now we make a timetable, print it to A3 and then people will see what's going to happen and when.

13.6. Monday
- Say Hi!
- Setting up computers, network and stuff
- Normal battles

14.6. Tuesday
- 12:00 - 24h total time competition (other people can play battles and that kind of stuff)

15.6. Wednesday
- 22:00 Strange resolution battles
- 24:00 Multi-player battles

16.6. Thursday
- 12:00 Walking battle
- 22:00 3h total time competition

17.6. Friday
- 12:00 - Headbanger battle
- 17:00 - GAA prizes
- 18:00 - Beer battle

18.6. Saturday
- 15:00 - 1h total time competition
- 18:00 Sauna battle (being drunk not allowed)

19.6. Sunday
- 14:00 Reverse keys contest
- 20:00 6 first internal levels contest

Walking battle = we take some 1-2km lap and walk around it. The winner is the one who walks the longest trip (most laps). You are allowed to eat and drink during it. 5mins per hour is for rest.
Headbanger battle = Drive 100 times trough the pipe and save all the replays, this same idea can be arranged in Enigma too.
Foot battle = you drive by your feet, Tisk may get large buttons for this.
Reverse keys contest = as the name says, we play Elma keys reversed.

Sauna battle wanted? How about IRL Elma? There are two bicycles...

Also we will make some nice FEM05 levels before the meeting and they can be played when you have extra time.
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drive thru HB pipe 100 times?? that could take some hours for most ppl, nej?
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sierra wrote:drive thru HB pipe 100 times?? that could take some hours for most ppl, nej?
The compo finishes when one player has done it.
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and yes, you don't have to participate to all compos :). Also just suggest some non-Elma contests. And for people who are not keen about playing I'm pretty sure that there are always people up to just drinking beer and chilling.
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There is one fun contest that me and jaytea often used to play, called 5-minute internal contest. We did it 1v1 but i guess you can have any number of players, especially since u all got own computers. the idea is simple; pick any level (we usually started with Warm Up) and play it for 5 minutes, just seeing who gets best time. i think this especially would be max interesting to see how quickly the great players can get good times.
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BarTek wrote:Yea i am travelling all the way to finland from sweden to drink some beer...
And talk with people they see everyday in IRC. Some people may do that. And that's ok.
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For example, I want to socialise more this year, spent facking long time playing battles last fem :X
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indeed is: maybe u meet your first friend there?
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40e

Update: 45e now because the deadline was on 20. April 2005.

What
Pay 40e to 143935-105351 Pekka Tahkola (foreigners must use IBAN: FI64 1439 3500 1053 51 SWIFT: NDEAFIHH, street address: Männikönkatu 3 A 9, 33820 Tampere, Finland) so that we have recieved your payment before the 20. April 2005. Note that the transfer may take even a week when it's done from abroad.

Why
We still need almost 800e (even after skint0r's donation) to cover the cottage price, tables & chairs, ketchup etc. We won't be able to arrange the meeting if we don't get enough money beforehand. Also your entrance is 100% sure, if you make your payment by the deadline. If you can't decide in time, you might still be able to participate (if we have room), but after 20. April the price is 45e.

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Even if you would cancel your participation, we will not return your entrance fee, so think twice before transferring the money. If after FEM we have money left, having covered all the expenses, we will deal out what's left over to all participants, unless you wish to donate your share for Moposite (hint hint). The lenght of your stay doesn't affect the attendance price.


Ps. all participants aged under 18 years have to print a contrary (which will be made later by us) and get it signed by his parent and snail mail it back.
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OK, I paid a couple minutes ago.
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whats up with all the bureaucracy? :roll:
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just a way to get things worked out, you have to count on something...
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Can mr or abula send that letter to me in post?? I dont hav printer :( If u can ask my address in #battle or RavenWK@netti.fi :)
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i think i will come to the meeting but i wont stay in the house. i wont pay money either, or eat your food, or use your computers. just wanna see your stupid face!
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Apply me to teh list! I'm coming :)
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J-sim wrote:whats up with all the bureaucracy? :roll:
ye kinda crazy... down here we invite the 16 year olds (enil, napol, epp kop) and then drink them under the table.. no parents involved, only beer :)
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Well, there might be a chance of getting inflicted with the law. And then some people are sooo dead. :?
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And what if one of the parents get mad?
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Underage kids and alcohol? What next, a white glove and a silicone nose?
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parents are mostly mad already. but it's easy to talk with them, just be friendly and be confident you did nothing wrong and they wont do anything.
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I wan't to come, but I can't, because of my age and I'm worst player ever...:D
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If you didn't hear yet we are having problems with money. Still 280e missing, more prepays needed! Otherwise no cottage :/.

Yet, GAA04 prizes are almost ready and they will be given for the winners in FEM05. Come and get yours.
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http://www.rutasenlomamokit.com/mokit/tuulikannel.htm - more pics of the cottage.

Uno tournament + other carg and board games could be non-elma activities. http://www.pagat.com/invented/uno_vars.html

mr has set a server where will be running http and irc servers. Also all the pictures must be uploaded there so we can keep some track of them.

We have found a place to rent chairs and tables - good. The biggest problem is that we lack an extra fridge. And that people haven't prepaid enough.
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The weather in Sweden should give you somewhat good idea what to wear. A bit before FEM some Finnish guy can probably inform guys from abroad of weather forecasts. FEM03 was held a week earlier than this FEM will be, so you could also see these pictures.
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well, just paid the entrance fee. now i've no excuses and i can't let that money go to waste. will be interesting to see everyone else who's coming.
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If any of fem participants wants to play consoles, tell now.
I might bring my gamecube, if there just are enough players.
So, if wanna play gc, tell who will play, and what games you wanna play.
I can bring super smash bros melee, mario kart and mario party 5
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I har teh bart and i think our skills are pretty liek same if u hev played it max also,only problem is teh that 2nd can get red shells and other good stuff and 1st gets coins so u can´t even block those red shells anyway 8)

so it´s pure luck who wins if teh skills are pretty liek same.
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