Zaraptor = Toringe ??

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Zaraptor = Toringe ??

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Ok before you guys get mad I'm not really serious with this topic it's more of a fun brainteaser sort of thing. Before you write off the question at all here are some very interesting pieces of evidence to suggest it is true...

1) zarapTOR. TORinge. some kind of secret clue he set up for us to follow?

2) zaraptor comes from same hometown as MJXII. there are thousands of towns in England, and yet so few elma players. what are the chances that 2 guys with TT under 42 would both be from same town? Even MORE interesting is that Toringe is really good friends with MJXII, so he would probably know the name of this town very well.

3) Tor was out of the scene for a while. Zaraptor didn't send his times to moposite either. Same week that Tor comes back and does 3 WRs, zaraptor does like 40 new times or something?? Coincidence !!??!?!!?

4) zaraptor is extremely fucking good. he has battleskills much greater than you would expect from somebody who has played for such a short period of time. these skills, however, would easily be demonstrated by Tor.

5) zaraptor has not met up with MJXII even though they apparently live like 15 mins away from each other. when you consider how rare it is for UK kuskis to even exist, surely he would pounce on the opportunity?

6) maybe MJXII asked Tor to set up phantom nick to make sure i don't become UK #1 ?

7) maybe Tor set up phantom nick to get lazy MJXII to improve quicker?

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8) Maybe you're paranoid? 8)
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ye and maybe Sierra really is Jaytea ;SSSS
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Post by teajay »

haeh...most likely. Just as dmd = toringe = zweq like some noob thought long time ago, =)

You know what, maybe I'm fakenickening too, and is my massive amount of postage only due to a depressive bartek. :roll:
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Post by J-sim »

how did zarapTOR battle in #battle while toringe was at his parents and didn't have internet access?

why does this seem like some lame promotional stunt for yourself, to mention that, besides from zaraptor, you would be UK #1?
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J-sim wrote:why does this seem like some lame promotional stunt for yourself, to mention that, besides from zaraptor, you would be UK #1?
actually not true. MJXII has better tt than mine, but it is possible that one day i will beat him.

Some more points to consider:

How many times have the two of them been photographed in the same room together? I think none.

Both are pretty much quiet guys in scene i.e. rarely IRCing, rarely on lauta, never ever bangoing.
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You're toying with us. :wink: You want us to give annoyed reactons to your lousy, faulty statement.

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Holy hotdog buns batman! He's totally right! :P
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Toringe = Zaraptor = Balász Rózsa 8)

And ye, I´ve noticed he´s a very skilled player in battle and it´s not very common to see a 'rookie' making so good times in few months...
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Post by MJXII »

Sierra: do us all a favour and stfu :?

btw, as regards #6: There has never been any danger of you being UK#1. If zaraptor wasn't there I would have sent in my times more often to keep you from being the best :wink:

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Ok before you guys get mad I'm not really serious with this topic it's more of a fun brainteaser sort of thing. Before you write off the question at all here are some very interesting pieces of evidence to suggest it is true...
So i don't get why some guys even get annoyed this was very funney to read.
how did zarapTOR battle in #battle while toringe was at his parents and didn't have internet access?
Were you ever at his parents and see him not have acces to internet?? That would be perfect opportunity to get new IRC adress.
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Post by The_BoneLESS »

Actually, zaraptor ain't that new...maybe to the scene but i remember he was in all OoK! contests and made some serious times in them...that was maybe a year ago, don't really remember

Pretty sure zaraptor is just very talented and improves pretty fast, just like you Sierra... you could be zaraptor too 8O
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im really pro that whane 'start again' being n00b and working way to teh topz. guess which 1 :wink:



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Im secretly bartek....which means i must be t0r
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In Fact I'm The Seventh Son.

Maybe zaraptor = bartek = toringe = dynamo = abula = dz = sierra = juski = psy = mjxii = psteve = jonsi = jsim = luther = ramone = magicman = nostrada = madman = ciph = jeppe = tura = px = balazs = Bill Gates??! 8O

Who had ever thought that?
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There's no way nostrada is in that equsion cause nostrada=Memphis

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i couldnt agree more with J-sim.
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Another thing... When I arranged LOS CUP 2 about a year ago, there were 10 rounds. zaraptor only participated in the first round, and t0r only participated in last round! Coincidence? I think this: not.
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omg zaraptor mix of zamppe and toringe, ZArapTOR, dunno what that RAP means but it might be something hiphoprelated...
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John wrote:omg zaraptor mix of zamppe and toringe, ZArapTOR, dunno what that RAP means but it might be something hiphoprelated...
:lol:

John came up with the solution.
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yoosef wrote:i couldnt agree more with J-sim.
well maybe you and him should both fuck off out of my thread and suck each other off
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sierra wrote: rarely on lauta, never ever bangoing.

maybe they nat whane be so mongo as yuo
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John wrote:omg zaraptor mix of zamppe and toringe, ZArapTOR, dunno what that RAP means but it might be something hiphoprelated...

This proves he's nat teh zweq or t0r, i'm sure it's sierra, who would suspect him if he accused himself of stoping from being Uk #1
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sierra wrote:well maybe you and him should both fuck off out of my thread and suck each other off
What's wrong, sierra? :(
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skint0r must be t0r too
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He's a UK in UAE
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zweq
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OtorK wrote:zweq
abula
ramone
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OMG, your right. Zaraptor has stolen DNA from all those Kuskis in order to become the ultimate Höyla. :o
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Wow Bartek........butchered....that's all there is to say :o

btw does neone know why there was like 150 guests on mopolauta a few days ago?
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Isn't it quite easy to figure out? if zaraptor is from uk and t0r from norway, just check IRC host adresses. 1-2-3 and you see he's nat t0r.

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lol @ noobs crying in my topic. yea i said noobs, you guys are fucking noobs at thinking. go read the first line of what i said, why don't you.

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Sierra, you are taking this game to serious.. yeah, I know what you wrote up there ^, but it isn't bad to be the 2:nd best UK Kuski ore even the 3:rd best... :roll:
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when do mods enter this and ban cuz of disturbing/offensive language? Sierra doesn't use a language that fits in here. I've seen Abula delete texts that has been less offensive.
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Boomer: I think you misunderstood what he said...
Crazy: You are overreacting....




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Juski wrote:Boomer: I think you misunderstood what he said...
Crazy: You are overreacting....
Yeah, but none have got angry, imo. Except Sierra. I agree with Crazy, though. At least he could be given a warning.
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Boomer wrote:
Juski wrote:Boomer: I think you misunderstood what he said...
Crazy: You are overreacting....
Yeah, but none have got angry, imo. Except Sierra. I agree with Crazy, though. At least he could be given a warning.
He do not take this game seriously, he did this as a joke not to blaim toringe from him not being 1st in UK.
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Maybe you should all stop guessing how others are feeling. I know zaraptor found this funny. And why should Toringe care at all, zaraptor and I are both nobodies to him. You act as though this is a direct insult to both of them; frankly, it's more of a compliment. And anyone who genuinely thinks I care about my placing in the UK tt table obviously doesn't know me very well.
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sierra, I find your analyse interresting, but nothing more. And nobody should think it's true; it's, in it's form, purely hypothetical.

sierra didn't prove this for himself, so we shouldn't be affected by his unproved thesis. he just illustrated the various points for peepz who wanted to know more about his (...unprobable, or whatever) hypothesis

actually, he has been insulted the first, as far as I can know, but it's true he tried to put on the more points he could (trying to pursue his thesis), even if some (perhaps) weren't of any clear evidence.


anyway, I just wanted to clear things out. maybe I even misunderstood some points.



Briefly, I find every thought interesting, and I think people should continue writing them so that it keeps ... you know, the scene, us ... alive

Edit: What was that first post? You know, fatigue isn't an excuse.
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you're right; nothing's serious, not even the fact that we posted at the same time. maybe I talked too much (oops). j ust look at the clock you see 12:34 too often!

Edit: That second post wasn't even better. Maybe I should stop commenting all my previous posts; I got a life, after all.
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nice jaytea
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so...what book/site did u take that out of?
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Dynamo wrote:so...what book/site did u take that out of?
omg..HOW U KNOW? i wanted ppl to think i freestyled it but now youve exposed me
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thanks jaytea for the info, even though it was totally irrelevant, just like 95% of the posts in this topic :lol:
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tijsjoris wrote:haeh...most likely. Just as dmd = toringe = zweq like some noob thought long time ago, =)
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i thought luther was an anti-social dweeb who spends his life hoyling for times zampper makes with ease, and i thought you were some reject aussie whose parents sent to the other side of the world to get away from you
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I heard some rumor that zaraptor use to wear the "lusekofta"... is that a clue.. :)
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Sincerly, lord jordan11.

But the main question here is 't0r = zarapt0r ?'
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