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Theoretical minimum times

Post by Abula » 31 Mar 2005, 22:13

The below times are theoretical minimum times calculated by CandErz's program. The replays will be generated and maybe published later.

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1.  Warm Up              0:14,02  <- to bad the magical limit won't ever be beaten
2.  Flat Track           0:15,01
3.  Twin Peaks           0:17,53  <- must be a new style
4.  Over and Under       0:28,12  <- new style
5.  Uphill Battle        0:19,99
6.  Long Haul            0:30,12
7.  Hi Flyer             0:32,19
8.  Tag                  0:20,61
9.  Tunnel Terror        0:51,13  <- ?!?
10. The Steppes          0:11,55
11. Gravity Ride         0:22,41  <- any ideas?
12. Islands in the Sky   0:20,66
13. Hill Legend          0:15,67
14. Loop-de-Loop         -        <- "runtime error: 23054:652F" by the program, we have no idea why
15. Serpents Tale        0:51,12
16. New Wave             1:26,09
17. Labyrinth            0:54,47
18. Spiral               0:43,91
19. Turnaround           0:36,60
20. Upside Down          0:57,62
21. Hangman              0:14,47  <- seems like Karlis has got it near
22. Slalom               0:39,01
23. Quick Round          0:34,01  <- hm...
24. Ramp Frenzy          0:49,89
25. Precarious           0:24,43
26. Circuitous           0:22,20
27. Shelf Life           0:33,12
28. Bounce Back          0:50,02
29. Headbanger           0:41,65  <- and I thought I got a good time (46 secs)
30. Pipe                 0:32,48  <- so the 0.84 limit doesn't allow the Pipe bounce
31. Animal Farm          1:13,01  <- must be a sweet rec
32. Steep Corner         0:43,18
33. Zig-Zag              0:55,29  <- the program almost crashed in this level
34. Bumpy Journey        0:36,45
35. Labyrinth Pro        2:08,68  <- uuh babe!
36. Fruit in the Den     0:56,29
37. Jaws                 0:52,67  <- er..?
38. Curvaceous           0:28,75
39. Haircut              0:37,76
40. Double Trouble       1:23,45  <- must be the most boring one
41. Framework            0:38,63
42. Enduro               0:46,10
43. He He                0:56,46
44. Freefall             0:11,49  <- Freefall bounce not possible either
45. Sink                 0:32,44
46. Bowling              0:52,61
47. Enigma               0:19,37  <- ...
48. Downhill             0:45,78  <- so Luther got it near to perfect
49. What the Heck        0:36,23
50. Expert System        0:52,17
51. Tricks Abound        0:41,73
52. Hang Tight           0:24,73
53. Hooked               0:17,20
54. Apple Harvest        1:21,12
Someone bothers to count the total time of the times?

Wouldn't it be good idea to publish the Leftalo patch after all this? therwise there is no sense to hoyl anymore.
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Post by teajay » 31 Mar 2005, 22:18

I wonder what program that is. :)

edit: i was so excited I didn't read the part above the quote.

I can't believe there is such a program, wow. Also...does this prog use left alo?

edit2: i just read the news. I'm asthonished. I don't think I could give a clear opinion about this. One thing should be guaranteed, that is: don't spread. But I think you figured that out yourself. :roll:
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Post by Abula » 31 Mar 2005, 22:21

No, it doesn't.
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Post by Abula » 31 Mar 2005, 22:24

Hm, I just compared the file sizes. 9 recs ready now. For example Tunnel Terror replay way smaller than current WR.

Btw, Mopolauta bugging for you?
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Post by teajay » 31 Mar 2005, 22:27

I finally understand the meaning of this. Damn, this is sure interesting, and in the same way dissappointing (warm up f.x)

I am damn curious about tunnel terror and over and under btw. :?

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Post by Jalli » 31 Mar 2005, 22:28

Well, teamICE have a few secret styles in the making. under 55 tunnel terror wouldn't be that hard if it wasn't for one certain trick...
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Post by Orcc » 31 Mar 2005, 22:32

Enigma max lolz :lol:
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Post by Abula » 31 Mar 2005, 22:34

That 0.84 limit is a bit questionable. We can think more of it... For example many normal Lab Pro bounces are out of limits due to that value.
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Post by teajay » 31 Mar 2005, 22:36

Milagros has a bounce check thingie, doesn'te he? Maybe you could add that value, if it is compatible with this program?

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Post by Juski » 31 Mar 2005, 22:37

Enigma is already beated by stini, but wa his bouce to buggy?'

And hang tight is possible much faster, darm got 24.77 and it is to improve the hang part by 0,05 and the end, with a almost bugged bounce you can get like 24,5x.
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Post by Abula » 31 Mar 2005, 22:40

Well, the bounces are very hard... as I said some normal (at least normal earlier) bounces seem to be bug ones now. Maybe Hang Tight is one of those levels.
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Post by Abula » 31 Mar 2005, 22:45

35:39,37 (including Loop-de-Loop current WR time)

Thanks to terb0.
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Post by sierra » 31 Mar 2005, 22:51

very enlightening

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Post by MJXII » 31 Mar 2005, 23:01

;/ for the next 3 years people will continually come back to this topic and be all 'omftehg what teh but teh...' ..is it really worth it?

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Post by devin » 31 Mar 2005, 23:03

ive been checkig this topic like every minute and every post mentioning [beep] has been deleted, including mine and strangers, and this one! hehe

hi abula

quite the popular topic i must admit :P
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Post by teajay » 31 Mar 2005, 23:04

Anyone have an idea why loop couldn't be driven? I am not so sure about the trustability of this program now. :?

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Post by infected » 31 Mar 2005, 23:05

why delete my post? :X
becouse i was right? :D
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Post by Ky.Jelly » 31 Mar 2005, 23:08

i aint saying shit about it too tomorrow, but for now, well done Luther, almost perfect ;p
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Post by CaeZar » 31 Mar 2005, 23:12

of cuz infected ;)
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Post by ribot » 31 Mar 2005, 23:35

if these times are all possible it's probably not the lowest. very interesting to see replays though. probably fm will see them.

questions:
use it vsync?
i dont think that a downhill rec can be as perfect as warm up. downhill is a very hard level, so the error there must be bigger.
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Post by Tocho » 31 Mar 2005, 23:39

Karlis WR is very near on 21/ Hangman :)
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Post by ribot » 31 Mar 2005, 23:52

request: total time, and time compared with wr. i dont know the wr times damned it.

then, where is the discussion..probably you wont release them..it will make the serious players mad..still there are more ppl who want to see it..democracy sweet
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Post by Dynamo » 1 Apr 2005, 00:38

very cool...i believe this...its like religion or something...it seems farfetched at first but if u believe then its possible...and if its never done, the players arent good enough :P
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Post by Crazy » 1 Apr 2005, 00:42

As for nat ruining and destroing ppl's dreams u should wait before uploading any recs. Many kuskis do believe they will make a WR one day!Still it would be sooo Cool to see those recs thoug it will take away all the mystecism of Elma. For all those who have hoyled till their eyes bled and there hands were nothing but raisins, nat funny when mr Russian spreads his prog :X

And for Karlor and Luth, quite max times u have :*
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Post by Luther » 1 Apr 2005, 00:53

most interesting thing I've read in a long time, seems reliable imo, the "loop-dilemma" was especially interesting though

Enigma btw ;DD, seems like Stini found a bug in teh system, didn't he? Or was it a bug in the level??


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28. Bounce Back 0:50,02
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Post by MadMan » 1 Apr 2005, 00:54

Can it calculate times and make replays on external levs too?

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Post by The_BoneLESS » 1 Apr 2005, 01:07

Abula wrote:Btw, Mopolauta bugging for you?
Yeah, mopolauta was :wink: buggy :wink: for :wink: me :wink: too :wink:
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Post by Dynamo » 1 Apr 2005, 01:42

so cool..... :wink:
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Post by Crazy » 1 Apr 2005, 01:43

Just realised one thing :/ This CandErz has been around for a while, I think. Some month ago someone uploaded a 2.11.xx rec of Lab Pro run on a polish site.
--> http://vk0.dk/vkprivupload/tfiaxkpe/35x21127.rec
Guess it was kinda same prog that made this rec :? Still it's some awsome piece of shit to watch!
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Post by Luther » 1 Apr 2005, 01:56

ha ha april april
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Post by Dynamo » 1 Apr 2005, 02:11

i dunno if abula will care or not but he just gave me a pm asking me to watch some of the crazier recs (those were the ones he 'generated' first) to confirm the times for him because he doesnt want to be deprived "entirely" of the mystery

so i watched 5: Laby pro, Over and Under, Fruit, Haircut, and Headbanger.

omfg to every rec but extra respect to haircut.

if u wanna get 37.xx u gotta have a LOT of patience with the killers...oh man its sooooo tight...lost for words
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Post by The_BoneLESS » 1 Apr 2005, 02:30

Dynamo, have you been payed by Abula to say that ?!

Cause if not, give me those recs, now ! :wink: :D 8O
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Post by Dynamo » 1 Apr 2005, 02:52

nope, he said since im not that good of a player but know enough about bugs and what not that i would be, 'a suitable candidate'.
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Post by MiEkk » 1 Apr 2005, 02:52

lol, april fools, took me like 5 min to figure out. but yah, had me convicned for a bit
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Post by Jake » 1 Apr 2005, 04:21

this wasn´t as good fool as elma2.0 <--u still had to try to download it anyway,right? :D =/
took like 3 secs to realize that this is april fool,somehow the russian kuski ruined it :P

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Post by Eklectro » 1 Apr 2005, 06:39

omg aril fool :)
i beleived during 2 mins while looking to times then tought to last one :)
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Post by veezay » 1 Apr 2005, 06:51

maybe Abula should've uploaded some badly-driven recs as the "generated ones" hi hi ¨=)

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Post by TUBLATANKA » 1 Apr 2005, 08:18

]I'M SURE THIS IS ANOTHER APRIL JOKE FROM ABULA AND PEXI. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

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Post by culinko » 1 Apr 2005, 08:33

abula fooled us with teh caltulating prog?

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Post by sierra » 1 Apr 2005, 09:23

lol @ the people who fell for it
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Post by 8-ball » 1 Apr 2005, 09:32

rofl when i saw a news item in April 1st i was already almost sure it is an april fool :D
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Post by milagros » 1 Apr 2005, 10:08

ez april fool:)
anyway some of the times are beatable
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Post by Oleg » 1 Apr 2005, 10:57

There is NO Russian player with this nick.
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Post by Dyrox » 1 Apr 2005, 11:20

Dame you Abula! :D
Some days ago I thought that you are always making an April fool.
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Post by milagros » 1 Apr 2005, 12:28

much more interesting would be if px updates 'wr table' with new 54 wrs made by some unknown russian player
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Post by magicman » 1 Apr 2005, 12:59

.sdgds sach u got me ABDULLA.... sach u woudlnt have gone public with this =)
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Post by Zweq » 1 Apr 2005, 13:26

SACH LETS TRAVEL 5 YEARS TO FUTURE, PUBLSIH EM!!!111111 WHen i read further this thread i see the sad truth :(
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Post by Lukazz » 1 Apr 2005, 13:48

and i was so happy, i really wanted to see 51 on tunnel terror!
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Post by Jonas » 1 Apr 2005, 14:08

so which of those times do you guys think can be beaten?...I think both Hangman and Freefall can be beaten :)
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Post by zworqy » 1 Apr 2005, 14:23

I wasn't fooled this year either
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