Are people born with Elma hÃ¶yling skills?

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 6 Sep 2005, 19:00

Do you think (some) people are born with hÃ¶yling skills, or is it just a question of practice?

I'm pretty sure some ppl have hÃ¶yling skills from birth and some don't, that's the only reason i can think of for why I'm not better than I am after all those years of Elma practice.

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 6 Sep 2005, 19:01

I don't think anyone is born with the talent...

But some are born with the passion of elma

Ramzi · Post by **Ramzi** » 6 Sep 2005, 19:01

i heav skills to cook eggs ,max ez

Nobody heav skills to elma from birth.I think if u r playing longer and longer then u are better.

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 6 Sep 2005, 19:14

not elma skillz, you might be born with hÃ¶yling skillz in other words you might be a person that have easier to commit to very unspecial things like elma =) or just passion and some kind of geometrical thinking

crazyevildude · Post by **crazyevildude** » 6 Sep 2005, 19:17

Hmm...You could be born with naturally faster reflex which would help. Maybe more natural patience would help with hoyling. But Patience is probably a more to do with enviroment and upbringing than genetics.

But I suppose to a certain degree some people are naturally able to become more skilled at it.

Olliz · Post by **Olliz** » 6 Sep 2005, 19:35

You might have the "nintendo thumbs".. And you might have realized that some people are better than you, even if you pick the game. They just are better playing videogames! The reflexes, position of fingers on the controller, all matters. And the passion of course.

twipley · Post by **twipley** » 6 Sep 2005, 23:19

I was good at games, usually, but this game, when I saw it, I knew it was my type of game

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 7 Sep 2005, 09:21

FFS! This is overlapping very much with an article I wrote for moposite that Abula hasn't published yet.

If anyone's interested I might as well upload it now then, here it is

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 7 Sep 2005, 12:17

I believe some ppl have more talent for elma than others, ofcourse this can be because they have talent/skill for some other things like mentioned above.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 7 Sep 2005, 15:09

its' not about hoyling skill, it's about skill beeing patient
and i've got it
i can play one lev for weeks without even finish it without getting angry
it has nothing to do with 'elma skill' which i don't have (or atleast far from those best ones)

CMc · Post by **CMc** » 7 Sep 2005, 20:35

I think some can be born with the skill for elma. Some guys just understand the physics of the bike, whichs make them natural at it. (Toringe, Zweg...) for example. Not sure if they were born with it, but it sure seems like it.

Napoleon · Post by **Napoleon** » 7 Sep 2005, 21:22

no people are definitely not born with skilz

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 8 Sep 2005, 20:23

@Sierra: I couldn't open it, I don't have word or perfect. Abula once said to me that he will update no elma stuff until maintenance work is finished. That's why the looong delay. Ask abula for details.

I think it's especially the dedication for a game. You can be talented but not have the patience to practise. Competing with other friends sure helps.

And then you have these other critical things. We are almost all born with two hands and ten fingers. But some have taller than others. Or thinner. All these things in mind, you shouldn't forget the last factor. That is spare time. Being social or not. That kind of stuff.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 8 Sep 2005, 21:28

i hav passion of teh elma

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 9 Sep 2005, 09:02

can i add that the title of this topic doesn't really make sense... "hÃ¶yling skills" is a confusing term, since hÃ¶ylÃ¤ power and raw skill are separate entities. What is "hÃ¶yling skill"? The ability to play a lot? Anybody can hÃ¶yl. On the other hand virtually nobody can have pure Elma skill.

I think people aren't reading my article :/

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 9 Sep 2005, 09:04

double post

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 9 Sep 2005, 09:04

triple post :)

lauta was fucking up ok sorry

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 9 Sep 2005, 10:07

sierra wrote:can i add that the title of this topic doesn't really make sense... "hÃ¶yling skills" is a confusing term, since hÃ¶ylÃ¤ power and raw skill are separate entities. What is "hÃ¶yling skill"? The ability to play a lot? Anybody can hÃ¶yl. On the other hand virtually nobody can have pure Elma skill.

I think people aren't reading my article :/

Over the years, "hÃ¶yling" has lost it's original meaning for me, "playing lots and lots".

Now it simply means "playing elma", so hÃ¶yling skills = Elma skills.

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 9 Sep 2005, 10:43

zworqy wrote:
sierra wrote:can i add that the title of this topic doesn't really make sense... "hÃ¶yling skills" is a confusing term, since hÃ¶ylÃ¤ power and raw skill are separate entities. What is "hÃ¶yling skill"? The ability to play a lot? Anybody can hÃ¶yl. On the other hand virtually nobody can have pure Elma skill.

I think people aren't reading my article :/
Over the years, "hÃ¶yling" has lost it's original meaning, "playing lots and lots".

Now it simply means "playing elma", so hÃ¶yling skills = Elma skills.

Wow... just... wow. I give up, not even gonna try anymore

dz · Post by dz » 9 Sep 2005, 11:16

zworqy's signiature wrote:<Fihlvein> another case of zworqy-is-always-right closed i guess

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 9 Sep 2005, 11:21

Not at all what I meant

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 9 Sep 2005, 11:59

I was just explaining the title, it's just my opinion, not (necessarily) the absolute truth.

Edit: I edited my previous post, hopefully less presumptious and condescending now.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 9 Sep 2005, 21:15

I think, now I read sierra's article on moposite, clearly states the difference between hÃ¶yl and skill.

It was a clear text to read, well formulated, not confusing. Certainly you have a good feel for retaining one solid writing style.

And although indeed there were a lot gaps filled with speculation, it could contain the answer of why zworqy lacks "Elma Skill":

Physically you aren't able to repeat a good sequence of buttons flawlessly, and mentally you don't have the skill to calculate alternative sequences on the fly.

But that's what I think.

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 10 Sep 2005, 15:51

this is a stupid topic.

some ppl are born with greater latency for doing things. but the greater reason for achievement is based on action. you need to actively try the best tricks until you make them. even better result if you think it's fun or inspiring to do it. lest elma.

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 10 Sep 2005, 20:04

not born with teh, find another excuse, zworgy

Jeppe · Post by **Jeppe** » 12 Sep 2005, 03:01

i have no skill

i mast play 24/7 to accomplish something t0r and zweq do in few triez.

CMc · Post by **CMc** » 12 Sep 2005, 04:30

BarTek wrote:I knew when i was little i had certain ease to complete various games while my friends didnt. So i guess i hame "skill" in that area wich involves eye-hand cordination and so on...

Elma is just one of the games, i wonder if those who are good players (tor zweq etc) are good in drawing or music perhaps? Maybe the ability to make most use of the "creative" brianhalf benefits the playing. I think so, maybe dunno.

Doesnt matter if you have calculating talent for styles and so on, you must in the end be able to make those tricks yourself.

But for the sake of this thread lets turn the tables and ask yourself this instead; why are some ppl just better at drawing than others? Much easier to answer, something we all came across in our younger lifes, and something we can relate to. Yet no direct answer there to be said, so why should we even think we can solve the "elma skill" topic?

Nicely said BarTek, sooo deep.

twipley · Post by **twipley** » 12 Sep 2005, 07:31

what teh. "eye-hand" coordination and physical skills... that's bull *&$@

that's the psyche, more precisely the imagination, and that's all the skill it takes. you got to think ahead of your bike to find the way

that measures with the use of external levels

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 12 Sep 2005, 09:56

BarTek, with calculating styles sierra meant the ability to do certain harder parts in a level more often, just because the brain can calculate the actions quicker.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 12 Sep 2005, 11:00

i think it's about psychic
those guys which are better and used to do more wrs don't get that much excited and stay calm after making hard part
i can say that i would have bowling wr a few times if i don't miss some apple but the fact is that if i take all of them and i'm also fast enough i would fuck up it almost for sure
ye, i'm noob