Movie: Elma Done (fairly) Quick v1

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Movie: Elma Done (fairly) Quick v1

Post by skint0r » 19 Jan 2006, 00:51

I think I started planning this right after milagros had made the first version of the pcx dumper, but the project has been on hold for quite some time because I wanted to wait for him to fix the animation bug when turning. He finally managed to fix the bug some days ago and I started working on this again.

It is a movie done in the spirit of Quake Done Quick type of movies, basically a run through Elma as fast as possible using the best publically available recs. I'm sure there is a level or two where someone has a better rec available, but I've tried my best to find the best ones I could, with some help from both Luther and axxu. I'm pretty happy with the results either way, the final totaltime I managed to get it down to is 36:56,80

I initially wanted to do the movie in 40fps, to get as smooth playback as possible, but no matter how hard I tried, I wasn't able to encode it with any codec without getting lag for some reason. I was on the point of giving up the whole thing then, because dumping the pcx of each lev, sorting and converting them to png is a really painful process. I had to start over from scratch with a 30fps movie, I think the results looks alright though.

I've encoded 3 different quality versions on the movie: a high quality 700mb, medium quality 433mb, and a low quality 342mb version.


HQ 700mb: archive.org mirror or filefront mirror

MQ 433mb: filefront mirror

LQ 342mb: filefront mirror
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Post by Xiphias » 19 Jan 2006, 01:48

This sounds just to crazy... Must have taken quite some time to make it.
But can't dl it. To big... would take way to long time.
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Post by Juski » 19 Jan 2006, 07:06

This sounds exciting ;o I'm gonna dload the high quality one =) gonna take a couple of hours but im gonna be in school then -->
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Post by Abula » 19 Jan 2006, 07:19

It's a mega max nice video.
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Post by zworqy » 19 Jan 2006, 09:20

lol @ 36:56 being "fairly" quickly :lol: :P
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Post by dz » 19 Jan 2006, 09:40

Well, it's only 2 mins better than Toringe's all replays. Well, that's quite good anyway. :P

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Post by Lee » 19 Jan 2006, 11:20

you must mean 2 seconds
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Post by klisse » 19 Jan 2006, 12:46

Phuh, Just seen it, one word: Awesome!

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Post by 8-ball » 19 Jan 2006, 13:36

I have always enjoyed watching Quake Done Quick and other speed demos on speeddemosarchive (note the sig ;)) so good job. Downloading HQ.
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Post by teajay » 19 Jan 2006, 13:59

That's a great effort you made there, skint0r. Be sure that I'll be getting it as soon as I get home.

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Post by culinko » 19 Jan 2006, 14:08

i think it is great video, so i'm downloading teh HQ version. really nice work, skint

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Post by MagnusB » 19 Jan 2006, 14:18

That's awesome! Hoping for more great elma movies in the future.

You screwed up the date in the end credits by the way. It says 2005-01-17.

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Post by skint0r » 19 Jan 2006, 14:39

Argh, so typical ;(

And for the curious, here's a little frame comparison between the different quality versions, although it's quite different when watching it as a video, you can at least get an idea about the quality difference between them.
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Post by John » 19 Jan 2006, 15:29

only dloaded some 508 mb or sach then internet crashed and I could only see until double trouble, great video it is tho :*

could u just tell bit more of the process of making it? like what programs u used (especially to add those lines with player and time)
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Post by skint0r » 19 Jan 2006, 15:46

Alrightey. First of all, and obviously, I dumped the pcx files with mila's program, and converted them to .png files. That step isn't necessary at all of course, but it certainly helps to keep the space usage down, specially when you have some ~70000 frames which quickly takes up 10gb as pcx.

I then used VideoMach to import the frames and saved them as an uncompressed avi file. You could use DivX/XviD/whatever directly in this step, but if you're going to work further with the file it's nice to have the best quality possible instead of compressing already compressed files and further degrade the quality.

An alternative to using VideoMach is Avisynth, but it's a bit more complicated tool, I'm not going to explain the usage of that since it's a bit hard. Definitely something to learn if you're going to do some more advanced video work though.

Anyway, I then opened up those uncompressed avi files in VirtualDub and used a filter called subtitler to overlay the level name, time and nick. Then you just save with whatever codec you like.
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Post by petsen » 19 Jan 2006, 16:36

very nice contribution skint0r... dl'ing the 700mb now sach excited to see it :)
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Post by Dariuz » 19 Jan 2006, 17:13

seeing this topic when joining #across means theres something interesting topic on lauta, but omg, i couldnt have thought it was THIS awsome!
great job on making the movie. currently downloading the 700mb one, cant wait untill its done
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Post by Lukazz » 19 Jan 2006, 18:11

hm, i'm sure it's great, but i don't have so much traffic, maybe i manage to download the LQ version at the end of the months
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Post by Marvin » 19 Jan 2006, 20:37

Nice work. Will you submit this to Speed Demos Archive aswell?

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Post by danitah » 19 Jan 2006, 22:42

Kinda nice, have to give credit to all teh great kuskis for driving these recs, and skint0r for putting them together. And finally some game movie with good music! i recommend this to all who has not yet downloaded.

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Post by teajay » 19 Jan 2006, 22:49

I just watched the movie. Really impressive to see it all in a row. Once again, really nice work to put it all together skiant. You got my everlasting love. :)

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Post by yoosef » 20 Jan 2006, 00:08

very nice job. i like it very mucho.

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Post by wwwDotcoM » 20 Jan 2006, 00:20

what can I say, it is MAX

Downloading teh 700mb version, really can't wait

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Post by Dynamo » 20 Jan 2006, 00:40

Hmmm..I'm gonna download the big version...seems very cool :P

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Post by SveinR » 20 Jan 2006, 00:50

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Post by sleap » 20 Jan 2006, 02:09

well done! though i must say, i at first though you.. did it all alone :D
meaning: starting game and playing it in 36:xx:xx 8O :roll: :)


only thing that i found a bit irritating was that the pics arent moved to background.

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Post by skint0r » 20 Jan 2006, 02:14

Marvin wrote:Nice work. Will you submit this to Speed Demos Archive aswell?

/ Martin, from the Quake done Quick team
Well the thought behind making the movie was to perhaps get it distributed and watched by more than just the people in the scene, something to show people that don't quite get what Elma is about or whatever. The movie isn't really much news to anyone here, I guess most people has seen most of the recs already.

But I probably won't submit it there, SDA seems to have so many rules and criterias for movies, and I'm just too lazy to write and explain everything. If anybody else would like to try and submit however, be my guest.
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Post by skint0r » 20 Jan 2006, 05:48

sleap wrote:well done! though i must say, i at first though you.. did it all alone :D
meaning: starting game and playing it in 36:xx:xx 8O :roll: :)


only thing that i found a bit irritating was that the pics arent moved to background.
Yes, I know. Unfortunately mila did the patch with the 1.11hb (?) version where the option of moving pics to background isn't available.
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Post by ciph » 20 Jan 2006, 09:06

downloading HQ, thx Fenris. :)
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Post by dz » 20 Jan 2006, 10:23

Very cool, too bad the date is fucked. But who gives a shit, that's just something to laugh about. :)

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Post by milagros » 20 Jan 2006, 12:57

skint0r wrote:
sleap wrote:well done! though i must say, i at first though you.. did it all alone :D
meaning: starting game and playing it in 36:xx:xx 8O :roll: :)


only thing that i found a bit irritating was that the pics arent moved to background.
Yes, I know. Unfortunately mila did the patch with the 1.11hb (?) version where the option of moving pics to background isn't available.
the patch is made on the first version of 1.2 (not public I think) where there isn't this option but there is change resolution and zoom option..
i'm lazy to remake it to 1.2 :roll:
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Post by aavv » 20 Jan 2006, 13:06

dame, well done. nice to have this when last few months i've had less than a couple of hours of elma per week due to lack of time and place to play teh. <3

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Post by teajay » 20 Jan 2006, 18:31

Who cares if the pictures aren't in the background?
If you want to show a guy a movie about elma he needs to see the true version of it.

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Post by Maala » 20 Jan 2006, 22:17

Inorix (formerly jcl) uploaded the HQ video to his site, link: http://harleqin.elte.hu/~joe/temp/EDfQv1-HQ.avi
hmm, hope this iz nat a bad thing.
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Post by wwwDotcoM » 20 Jan 2006, 23:20

Would you please upload a recs pack (except teh mopos of course)

I whane especially zweq's LH 30:90 and NW 1:26:xx, there are also some more I don't have (and maybe not only me)

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Post by Jazka » 20 Jan 2006, 23:45

Yes I would also like to see them if it's possible to show them... It should be because they are public recs... :roll:
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Post by sleap » 21 Jan 2006, 00:03

tijsjoris wrote:Who cares if the pictures aren't in the background?
If you want to show a guy a movie about elma he needs to see the true version of it.
erm....bla.
first off: i care. though it is very nice work, i would have liked to see the driver or wheels all the time.
second: it is NOT the true version anyhow. as you may noticed, the bike is centered, very likely the resolution changed and at least downhill forced to ground/sky.
further:why would he has to see it in original? if he would like to start playing afterwards, it would be a shame to let him play version one.

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Post by teajay » 21 Jan 2006, 09:16

Hmm, I see your point.
But still it would've been a bit dull if you made the movie with LoFi graphics.

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Post by Juski » 21 Jan 2006, 09:20

Not LoFi it would be enough with pictures in the backround only.
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Post by teajay » 21 Jan 2006, 09:23

Juski wrote:Not LoFi it would be enough with pictures in the backround only.
Blah, I think I forgot what my point was. Let's stop this bullcrap.

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Post by Kopaka » 21 Jan 2006, 11:10

Fourth dl try, 99% done. Sach looking forward :D.

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Post by berhabdul » 21 Jan 2006, 13:05

too big for me :[

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Post by onlainari » 21 Jan 2006, 16:03

Nice! Taking a cup of hot tea and lay down on a bed and start watch a show of skill that Elasto Mania can give was really great experience.

For me this format worked to detach from being a player or viewing it as a training guide or being a judge of the skill. It felt more like a show Elasto Mania is able to create. Watching this video I came up with opinion on which levels are most genious. Curvaceous and Zig-Zag being the biggest, but almost all levels max colourful \o/ Just have to exclude boringness of Warm Up at first though :)

The amount of skill and tricks that I don't personally master (43.3x.xx my total time) was countless, and I first thought this is the reason I can view it like I viewed it. After this I came to conclusion, that it was because of the state of mind. I started to watch the video as a show, and it worked nicely.

I liked the music, it fit in for me, and I was feeling like I would liked to have known the artist name and the song title when a new song started, but probably skint0r thought, that it is unnecessary. It is a little ruiner, if someone wants to watch it without the audio, so maybe it is better this way. I was happy to see the song list in the end texts. :)

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Post by Cloud » 22 Jan 2006, 10:10

Just amazing skon0r, nothing else to say. 8)
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Post by berhabdul » 22 Jan 2006, 12:16

ehhh :( downloaded in 98% and then sucked...

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Post by zworqy » 22 Jan 2006, 12:59

dz wrote:Well, it's only 2 secs better than Toringe's all replays. Well, that's quite good anyway. :P
That's LOL now :D

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Post by Lasall » 22 Jan 2006, 14:08

Because some people have problems with the download, I made a very low quality version (I hope skint0r won't become angry). :oops:

61,7 MB, WMV9 Codec, very fast
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Post by Lukazz » 22 Jan 2006, 16:26

i knew most of the recs, but quite nice!
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Post by rad » 22 Jan 2006, 19:26

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Post by Ky.Jelly » 23 Jan 2006, 03:39

damn skint your max, ez put on ftp ttm :p
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