World Cup 6

Labs · Post by **Labs** » 10 Jan 2011, 18:42

Dead plan, maybe wc6 will never happen

niN · Post by **niN** » 10 Jan 2011, 21:38

My offer still stands, even though I'm studying now and don't have much time I could do it in the summer I think.

But, abu and px prolly want to do it themselves. I don't know, they should reply in this topic.

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 10 Jan 2011, 21:51

Moposite needs a lot of work still, where's WR statistics for example? I suppose 'they' have at least somekind of priority list

Post by **Abula** » 10 Jan 2011, 22:39

Zweq wrote:Moposite needs a lot of work still, where's WR statistics for example? I suppose 'they' have at least somekind of priority list

http://www.moposite.com/info_moposite_future.php

A raw todo-list. But now we are still fixing minor things of Records and also trying to clean user databases.

Harald Hasch · Post by **Harald Hasch** » 11 Jan 2011, 10:31

there was a world cup 5? damn.

oh wait. i was part of it. you guys scared me for a second. fuckers.

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 18 Jan 2011, 20:05

I see freestyle in the list of dream contests... I tried organizing one two years ago, it ended up with people mongoing and no one was interested. So I'm not organizing it, that's for sure.

Bludek · Post by **Bludek** » 14 Apr 2011, 10:41

I literarly screamed out loud, when I saw new post in this topic. And it's only spam

At least master cup is on. It's very cool too, but world cup is world cup........

Labs · Post by **Labs** » 14 Apr 2011, 16:52

Bludek wrote:I literarly screamed out loud, when I saw new post in this topic. And it's only spam

At least master cup is on. It's very cool too, but world cup is world cup........

Yep, this year would be perfect, new moposite, eol and semi-active staff. Maybe this summer brings wonder.

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 14 Apr 2011, 18:31

Can't we wait till karlis disappears again? Otherwise there would be no competition. :I

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 8 May 2011, 22:58

i think the next year, 2012m is a must for a World Cup
soon World End...

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 12 Apr 2012, 09:09

it's time for a new world cup, perhaps in the autumn. i spoken

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 12 Apr 2012, 11:47

do it zebra!

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 12 Apr 2012, 12:34

me?

ye let's have the last event deadline on 21.12.2012.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 12 Apr 2012, 12:57

who else could do it?

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 12 Apr 2012, 13:28

anyone?

Labs · Post by **Labs** » 12 Apr 2012, 14:28

zebra wrote:me?

ye let's have the last event deadline on 21.12.2012.

Would be awesome, now everything is ready to make one with eol.

snajdig · Post by **snajdig** » 12 Apr 2012, 15:59

Is there any video about 1st 2nd 3rd Word Cups? I couldn' find any. Could anyone tell me who won? I know Mp won the 4th, 5th.

Post by **SveinR** » 12 Apr 2012, 16:19

snajdig wrote:Is there any video about 1st 2nd 3rd Word Cups? I couldn' find any. Could anyone tell me who won? I know Mp won the 4th, 5th.

No video as far as I know, but information on them can be found here:
Levels: http://old.moposite.com/downloads/wcups/levels/
Replays: http://old.moposite.com/downloads/wcups/replays/ (not for WCup 1 it seems)
Results: http://old.moposite.com/downloads/wcups/results/

Dr_Luni won 2 and 3, while BoBBo won the first World Cup.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » 12 Apr 2012, 16:53

zebra wrote:me?

ye let's have the last event deadline on 21.12.2012.

Superb, it's my birthday

and the end of the world

Pab · Post by **Pab** » 12 Apr 2012, 21:35

make topic to encourage EDQ 2

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 13 Apr 2012, 22:09

This fall would be kinda perfect timing for a world cup (in my schedule that is).

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 13 Apr 2012, 23:28

You have to contact px if you want a world cup.

niN · Post by **niN** » 14 Apr 2012, 00:21

This fall MR3 will be also... Anyway I don't think there will be a world cup.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 15 May 2013, 20:19

let's try this again.

Smibu · Post by **Smibu** » 9 Sep 2013, 13:05

IRC realtime channel log for World Cup 6.

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 9 Sep 2013, 22:11

very cool! exactly what we need for eol during balle
I tried to search for "29."

gonna add date time stamp as well for the search results? possible to read more lines before and after the searched keywords?

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 9 Sep 2013, 22:13

also is your bot (you) present there all the time? seems not

Smibu · Post by **Smibu** » 10 Sep 2013, 07:49

abruzzi wrote:also is your bot (you) present there all the time? seems not

No, it all depends on the uptime of the uni's Unix machine. I may get disconnected sometimes, but it doesn't happen too often.

Mawane wrote:gonna add date time stamp as well for the search results? possible to read more lines before and after the searched keywords?

Date stamps - ye, it's probably possible. Read more lines - just click a line to see the surrounding lines of it.

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 16 Sep 2013, 20:10

i was just randomly looking old mopo when i found http://old.moposite.com/contests_world_cups_5.php

look at the win times of the events. i tried to compare with current wcup, and now we have so far: 13s, 59s, probably 1:4x. do you think the current trend won't discourage more people? i like hoyla levs, but this message is not about me, nobody wants to play a cup with 50 people. i know that the first event has always had the most participants of the whole cup, but do you really think adding longer levels right now is the right choice? (i know next one probably won't be longer, but...) the last level was roughly under minute lev, i really didn't expect longer one being the next. i mean, we haven't seen some 30-40s cruise multistyle levs yet (most common in previous wcups), i thought we would see them right from the start. the goal is to make the most people play (since this is probably the last elma cup, folks!) and to pick the most quality levels (personal preferences differ, so i won't comment on good/bad levels). i'm not saying ppl share my opinion, that's why i want to hear other opinions too.

so, what are your opinions about the levels so far?

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 16 Sep 2013, 21:10

it's only the 3rd out of 15 levels, really hard to say anything yet. i don't think the next lev will be 4 mins long.

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 16 Sep 2013, 22:07

you clearly haven't read the whole post.

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 16 Sep 2013, 22:27

if you judge a level by the wintime you obviously dont know elma.

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 16 Sep 2013, 22:33

so, instead of other opinions, all i got is "you don't know elma" or "i don't think the next lev will be 4 min". what was i thinking when making that post. grats.

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 16 Sep 2013, 22:39

the levels are so far overmade and overchosen, i don't know where are these 30-40s brilliant multistylish levs either

Labs · Post by **Labs** » 16 Sep 2013, 23:29

I dont like over 1 min levs either, but most levs will be probably over 1 mins. 30-50 secs levs best i think, hopefully there will be some (5?) of that too. Also, there is annoying places in 3/3 levs which need luck (first lev ->end, second lev -> hang+bnc, third lev->in play), they should not be there, but what can we do against it is nothing, just play and get an ok time.

bamilan · Post by **bamilan** » 17 Sep 2013, 09:49

Labs wrote:I dont like over 1 min levs either, but most levs will be probably over 1 mins. 30-50 secs levs best i think, hopefully there will be some (5?) of that too. Also, there is annoying places in 3/3 levs which need luck (first lev ->end, second lev -> hang+bnc, third lev->in play), they should not be there, but what can we do against it is nothing, just play and get an ok time.

Even if levs are luckbased, top players got into top10 in both rounds passed.
Luck levs just helps the weaker players to get a better position. (and ofc if you are pro and cant do the trick you can easily fall behind)

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 17 Sep 2013, 10:59

no luck needed anywhere yet. maybe slightly in event1 because of over 1 second airtime. nothing like compared to bowling or downhill 5+ sec airtimes where minimal difference in speed / angle before airtime makes big difference in where you land and how, if anything can be called luck in elma then over 5 sec airtimes (and bug bounces too of course)

Thundr- · Post by **Thundr-** » 18 Sep 2013, 16:47

Not quite sure i follow your thought process on this Labs, to me it seems you are confusing "high/higher difficulty on certain tricks in contrast to regular cruise" with "luck based tricks". Sure any hard trick benefits from luck more than just riding plain on a flat surface without any conflicting obstacles because all you have to do is gas, but doesnt mean that luck is a requirement in any regard.

603 - luck in play? how does that even register as an argument on any scale or chart. Id say this level is a rather complicated cave cruiser with many possibilities, but certainly not for the lucky man only. There are many spots where a mistake can easely cost you 1-2s, and the answer is that you need more trainlev/saveload training/and live hoyling to make every part a bit more consistent, that and your own skill, not more luck

Labs · Post by **Labs** » 18 Sep 2013, 20:45

603 - in play -> it means it's in play, so i don't tell any lucky spots there.

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 19 Sep 2013, 09:50

I think very nice levels so far. This 3rd event is a little bit gay though ^^
Imo just hoyl. Stop whining, start winning. Same level for everyone, same conditions. The ones who have advantage is always the better players.
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Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 19 Sep 2013, 15:32

Thats right bjenn! And thats how a winner talk!

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 19 Sep 2013, 16:16

I don't think the levs have been that bad, but I hev not liked them. The first one was ok though I definitely think there was sum luck factor at the end. The second lev hang apple was the deal breaker for my, stoped playing after figured u gotta do it. This third lev is too long and needs ridiculous amount of time to get event a slightly decent time so I'm out again. All in all ive lost my interest to do well in this cup, but I'll definitely be playing and sending in each event, and following teh progress intensively ofc!

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 19 Sep 2013, 17:15

ramone wrote:Thats right bjenn! And thats how a winner talk!

of course the top players will have good results in each event. but you need to see the greater picture of how many people will actually play the next rounds.

Thundr- · Post by **Thundr-** » 19 Sep 2013, 20:37

I dont consider myself of higher skill than ville for example, and i found 2nd level fat hang really gay at first as well, but after hoylage and figuring out exact moves and angle and stuff with merging in recs and whatnot it became really ez. Like always nailed it if i knew that speed and angle was good. Could even "fail" a little, like going a bit too far into apple before breaking and going forward etc and still survive the hang. Much easier than top right apple which doesnt even have any hard tricks, i still had most problem with that one in particular getting a good push and speed after taking it. 90% of all runs were lost there for me and a possible and a 1.01 run could become a 1.02-1.03 just due to that place alone.

Point being this was absolutely not at all by any miniscule chance something that had anything to do with luck. It was tricky, like maybe tricks abound tricky where you need perfect moves and figuring out how to do them to get a good swing and break. That requires planning, testing and merging, or just raw skill, not anything else.

If people drop out for something like that it really makes me sad :/

nick-o-matic · Post by **nick-o-matic** » 27 Sep 2013, 09:34

Are there any plans for the WC6 video already? I think somebody should already start making it - for two reasons. Firstly, it would then be finished quickly after the last event has ended. Secondly, in that case the video could catch the atmosphere of the each event better. I mean if you make the video of the 1st event 4 months after it, the maker of the video is affected by rest of the events and might emphasize different things.

Some suggestions for the video:
-many merges
-try to get kuskis true shirts to the recs
-show top15-20 of each event and also the total standings after each event
-include as many players as possible, even from nab kuskis you could include cool 5sec long parts
-include secret area stuff
-plese include a lot of background information and comments and relevant news after and before each even (like that "Jeppe chooses to resign" and "where is Luther" in WC5 video)
-could include screenshots from lauta posts etc
-could record #WC6 and #across when results are being published and put highlights

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 27 Sep 2013, 11:23

nice idea nom, let's get it going keep STOKEd

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 27 Sep 2013, 11:23

Ez full movie plot, 4h material total!
No but I like your thinking nom =) But I wouldn't want any merges in the video, only show full win ride, and maybe parts of others rides.

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 28 Sep 2013, 15:52

I dotn like merge in videos and especially not parts of recs. parts of recs is like wtf?

Top10/20 standings between each event would be cool. But I reall think vid is winrec and thats that.

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 28 Sep 2013, 16:54

I think a merge in a level like 603 between spef and adi would be awesome. So equal with so different styles. Just use it wisely, and probably best to use jon's merge program.

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 6 Oct 2013, 18:11

And I thought wc605 would be the worst level in cup.
I. WAS. WRONG.