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Re: World Cup 6

Post by jonsykkel » 6 Oct 2013, 20:49

wich one was it then=PP
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by culinko » 7 Oct 2013, 01:09

all of them
sorry, had to :twisted:

only enjoyable lev for me so far was 602 :/
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Hosp » 7 Oct 2013, 01:16

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by roope » 7 Oct 2013, 01:46

For me too 602 has been the only one enjoyable enough to hoyl enough to get an actual time relative to my skill level. Pretty much all the others have had max orka annoyage moves that have killed the fun. 606 seems oke fun but with my (non)skills in piping doing the best routes/styles is too much of a pain in the ass so again orka.
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by culinko » 7 Oct 2013, 02:04

i couldn't say it better, roope.

the annoying spots can definitely kill the mood to play the lev, at least for me. it seems like the levs are so overdesigned to include the annoying spots, so the lev seems "harder" for the sake of getting good winning replay, which should not be the main point for the lev being in the cup, because you need to imagine the lev is being played by 100 people. i'm not saying every lev should be like warm up, but deliberately making some spots annoying is not the right way to go (e.g. end in 601, start in 604).
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Bjenn » 7 Oct 2013, 08:57

Yes I mean WCup606 of course. Everything is way too hard, if I will hoyl this level I will spend 95% of hoyltime in first 10-15 seconds of the level, no matter what first shortcut I decide to take. And everything from there is hell.
And Ramone said he will possibly take another pipe event in world cup 6... Just don't, please.

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08:04:40 < Tisk> i guess pies in this lev are just inevitable
08:05:24 < Tisk> if you want to have so hard shortcuts that you don't know
                 which is worth using, then the shortcuts just have to be
                 ridiculously hard
08:06:39 < Tisk> like if the first pipe straight down was obviously doable but
                 just hard there would be no point trying anything else
08:07:01 < Tisk> well maybe it is to some one
08:08:20 <@ville_j> im suar someone can mayke it
08:08:29 <@ville_j> at sure if anyone orka try though
08:08:29 < Tisk> only bad thing it's no fun to play
08:08:36 <@ville_j> yesh
08:10:13 < Tisk> so many possibilities in this lev, too bad they're all hard
08:10:30 < Tisk> even the quite slow easy styles are fucking hard
08:11:03 < Tisk> only the really slow styles are playable :P
08:11:05 <@ville_j> and many mongo places where a minor mistake will get u

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Lousku » 7 Oct 2013, 13:03

This is the pipe event. No second one.
then again i don't know anything
maybe easier not to think abouut alöl things thought than not things thought ... or something..=?

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Bjenn » 7 Oct 2013, 13:37

Lousku wrote:This is the pipe event. No second one.
Are you ramone?

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by ElrondMcBong » 7 Oct 2013, 15:53

Last WC had also an event with ridiculously hard pipe shortcut AND a real pipe lev with apples and stuff^^

Its just a normal lev with many sc's :)

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Igge » 7 Oct 2013, 15:59

The level is equally hard for everyone. Just play the level and do your best, because whining won't change a thing anyway.

Remember, this is the world cup! Just because you've been spoiled by 20 min balle levs doesn't take away from the fact that you have an entire fucking week to play this level. Just do your best (or worst, I don't care), and quit whining.

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Ramone » 7 Oct 2013, 17:19

Igge wrote:The level is equally hard for everyone. Just play the level and do your best, because whining won't change a thing anyway.

Remember, this is the world cup! Just because you've been spoiled by 20 min balle levs doesn't take away from the fact that you have an entire fucking week to play this level. Just do your best (or worst, I don't care), and quit whining.

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by ville_j » 7 Oct 2013, 19:31

luv it when negative feedback is deemed as whining, people should always just lick each other's ass or have no opinion at all <3
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Igge » 7 Oct 2013, 19:40

What I'm saying is people keep complaining about hard levels, when I say there are no "easy" levels in elma, and that every level has the potential to be hard: Hi flyer is hard if you're going for left-first style; Animal farm is hard if you're going for fast octo; This level is hard if you're going for all pipe shortcuts. Heck, I've never even finished Flat Track with the 14.xx style, and I've spent way more time on that lev than I have on this current one. Doesn't that make Flat Track a "hard" level?

Adjust yourself to the level, and play your best with the best style you can manage. Not everyone can do a ramp brutal just like not everyone can do the pipe shortcuts in this lev. That's what elma is all about. Doing the best you can. So fucking go out there and do your best, be it with impsy styles or the regular one.
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by ville_j » 7 Oct 2013, 19:49

Yes I don't think anyone has any trouble understanding that. It doesn't change the fact that I think it is a shit event because it is about pipe shortcuts. Anyways I've been playing it more than 5 previous events so I am fucking going out there and doing my best!!1
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Igge » 7 Oct 2013, 20:12

Yeah, well..

Some hate pipes, and some hate bounces.
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by ville_j » 7 Oct 2013, 20:30

And voicing an opinion is each individual's right and not necessarily whining. Now let's all love each other WOOHHOOO!
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Thundr- » 8 Oct 2013, 02:07

I approve of any level more or less and i am in tune with igge and ramone on the mentality that its the same for everyone, some levels should be hard etc etc here's your chance to see what your skills are made of etc etc, but I can totally understand why this lev kills the motivation for most.

For a non-piper with non existant pipe skills such as myself, i think really narrow and bendy 45 degree pipes, even if they are short, are way way WAY harder than lets say if you compare to the previous pipe events in world cups. Just "trying" to enter most pipes is a true adventure and i get bored and angered of just knowing that this is the EXACT spot i will die 10000000 times.

I personally think these narrow but short pipes are the most "boring" in all of what elma has to offer because it abruptly halts the run or kills it. When people play long cruise FF battles and there is an unexpected trap or death spot people get REALLY mad right? Its the same concept here i believe. Narrow pipes = deathspots and it kills playability and ruins the pace. Such things provoke anger.

Challenge factor/Difficulty factor, such things are all in order here. Fun factor? I think there is where most people fall short. This level will most likely be the most boring one i'll ever play and certainly the most painful. When you force yourself to do something that isnt fun and something that is painfully hard at the same time, of course people will complain about it. Doesnt mean that anyone is "wrong", but doesnt mean its the cups/levels fault either or anyones fault for that matter. It is what it is, and its the same for everyone so now we're back at the beginning with that mentality again, so thats why i still approve of this level.

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Igge » 8 Oct 2013, 07:41

I'm sure pretty much everyone felt the same about KingCup 02. That pipe was so hard only dz managed to finish with it, and that's what makes the level such a legendary one. The thing is you don't have to finish with the pipe shortcuts if you don't want to, or if you feel you're unable to. All they do is they're just there teasing you.

But still, you know the sense of satisfaction you'll feel when you actually do finish...
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Hosp » 8 Oct 2013, 13:14

I don't approve of these levels since they're simply just not good. Add Zweq levels and I will be happy. (probablyxD)
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by zebra » 8 Oct 2013, 14:42

The WCup606 lev is actually quite interesting. I spent whole night spectating there and what I noticed is that my wheels rotate all by themselves! I didn't press anything during the whole 20 hour spectating session and here is the result:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/zebra/snp00048.png
Instantly after restart the situation is this:
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Ramone » 8 Oct 2013, 15:47

coal!

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I like the fact that you stand in start and dont fall left or right.
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Kopaka » 21 Oct 2013, 21:32

http://elmaonline.net/statistics/cups/4/detailed detailed standings including points if you remove the worst, get to it by clicking detailed link in the top

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Post by zebra » 23 Oct 2013, 12:15

How is it possible that Juski got 0.5 points from the 7th event? :)
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Tigro » 23 Oct 2013, 15:55

thats probably a numeric fail, as both Juski and PETA had same time (32,49), but PETA gained 1 point, Juski got 0,5 points. Hilarious is, that Juski is ranked higher than PETA, even he has less points than him :D
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Kopaka » 25 Oct 2013, 22:01

Csaba interview was added yesterday in case you haven't noticed.

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Mawane » 26 Oct 2013, 01:57

oh sweet, i thought he wouldnt answer
i wasnt expecting he had bigger plans for his level :(
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Kopaka » 27 Oct 2013, 16:17

Remember deadline in 40 mins, send replay on http://elmaonline.net/statistics/cups/4

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Kopaka » 17 Nov 2013, 16:41

Remeber deadline in 20 mins and upload replay on http://elmaonline.net/statistics/cups/4


Seems to be an occasional bug with apple counting in the replay on the site, if you have wrong number of apples please let me know before deadline if you can.

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Dynamo » 17 Nov 2013, 18:51

I had 33 apples in my rec and eol counted 35...checked event standings and I wasn't there. Not that it makes a huge difference but I'm missing out on 19 points :(
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Madness » 17 Nov 2013, 19:09

This is a World Cup, how dare you even consider sending in an unfinished replay??!
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Memphis » 18 Nov 2013, 21:13

Dynamo should get the 19 points for sure and surpass Madness in the overall standings.

Madness, how dare you quite wcup half way through with your team doing so well. Any Speed members playing now or were you the puppet master? :)
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Kopaka » 18 Nov 2013, 22:59

All missing results from last event has been fixed.

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Memphis » 18 Nov 2013, 23:12

Thanks Kopaka. Guess it won't be 19 points anymore but probably more like 18.5. Approx how many players this bug happen to Kopaka?
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Kopaka » 19 Nov 2013, 00:20

Was around 10, some with an already better time, some with a worse already in results and some not in at all before.

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Re: World Cup 6

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Memphis wrote:Dynamo should get the 19 points for sure and surpass Madness in the overall standings.

Madness, how dare you quit wcup half way through with your team doing so well. Any Speed members playing now or were you the puppet master? :)
I dare because I don't have a computer. And my team is doing very well I guess, it's just moved on to Internals. :D
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by nick-o-matic » 20 Nov 2013, 12:25

Madness wrote:
Memphis wrote:Dynamo should get the 19 points for sure and surpass Madness in the overall standings.

Madness, how dare you quit wcup half way through with your team doing so well. Any Speed members playing now or were you the puppet master? :)
I dare because I don't have a computer. And my team is doing very well I guess, it's just moved on to Internals. :D
You got so fed up to elma that you sold your PC? :S

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Madness » 21 Nov 2013, 20:28

Nah, never been fed up with Elma, just moved away.
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by gimp » 25 Nov 2013, 00:12

My time didn't show up in results, 49,59. Checked after I sent and it was in "My Times".

Maybe got disconnected?
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by abruzzi » 25 Nov 2013, 09:49

kopaka jebana sraka stupid buggish site, next time pass wcup to zworqy
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Boomer » 15 Dec 2013, 12:11

When event 14 interviews?

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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Orcc » 15 Dec 2013, 23:11

Max grats Kazan, now back to driving wrs everyone!
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by umiz » 16 Dec 2013, 21:15

Really amazing Kazan!
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Re: World Cup 6

Post by Hosp » 18 Dec 2013, 06:42

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