#ballelma logs and possible battle stats

User · Post by **User** » 8 Jan 2009, 06:18

hey!

i was wondering if any op or someone has saved any logs from #ballelma channel. we havent had any battle stats since #battle days and it would be entirely possible to create atleast a partial results from the logs. zworqys bot saves logs? those would be obviously the best and most complete ones. i imagine not hard to ask zebra change his program a little to make the stats but in the past when i asked he wasnt that enthusiastic about it, said better just to wait for new version.

been 1.5y or maybe 2 years since the #ballelma started so there is whole lots of stats to be made, of course there has been lots of fake nicks etc but they would provide atleast some info for stats hoylers like me. what do people think about this? want stats as well or just dont care etc.

gimp · Post by **gimp** » 8 Jan 2009, 06:52

yes, i agree, stats would be nice.

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 8 Jan 2009, 07:22

hmm, I could look into that if I first got the complete #ballelma logs from the past 2 years.

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 8 Jan 2009, 14:36

Heh, I had more saved logs than i thought, only missing 23 July - 30 October of 2007.

http://zworqy.com/belma/ballelmalog0rz.zip 8,22 MB zipped, 40,5 MB unzipped

Anyone have those missing days of logs?

btw, MopoBOT saves nothing.

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 8 Jan 2009, 15:12

Jappe wrote:very cool 8o
cant wait to see some stats ~

don't hold your breath.

But I'll make them some day.

Labs · Post by **Labs** » 8 Jan 2009, 15:53

http://up.k10x.net/lzajuybsrodny/logsjulyoct.zip

Maybe some hours missing but most days not.

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 18 Jan 2009, 00:02

I made the stats, enjoy

http://koti.mbnet.fi/zebra/battles.html

More info there.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 18 Jan 2009, 00:12

thank you so much! this is great!

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 18 Jan 2009, 00:24

lol my nickchanges fucks up the stats xD

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 18 Jan 2009, 00:27

but very strange ranking. the bean is 9th but he is not even in top 500 of top players. lol

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 18 Jan 2009, 01:01

Heah, i played maybe 2 days as "The Bean" and got in that top10 =D

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 18 Jan 2009, 01:03

Yea, ignore the rankings. There shouldn't be anything wrong with the formulas but seems that everything we got is weird results...

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 18 Jan 2009, 02:39

Best text file(s) ever

I'm 49th in standing and 99th in ranking

jaytea · Post by **jaytea** » 18 Jan 2009, 03:34

Ã'm first in the rankings for skill, how is that a weird result?

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 18 Jan 2009, 10:54

zebra if you got the energy for it, could you split the stats into weekly (or daily/monthly) segments too so we could get some trends visible, like for example i'd like to see how much my winning % has gone up since 2007 and a graph showing average weekly win% over 2 years would be a really interesting statistic to check.

you could probably come up with a lot of others too, generic and nick-based. like average amount of players participating per week, per month, per specific day of week like 'sundays', most levels designed in a single week/month, average amount of battles per month for every month, etc (think #ranks).

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 18 Jan 2009, 11:12

Antz wrote:zebra if you got the energy for it, could you split the stats into weekly (or daily/monthly) segments too so we could get some trends visible, like for example i'd like to see how much my winning % has gone up since 2007 and a graph showing average weekly win% over 2 years would be a really interesting statistic to check.

you could probably come up with a lot of others too, generic and nick-based. like average amount of players participating per week, per month, per specific day of week like 'sundays', most levels designed in a single week/month, average amount of battles per month for every month, etc (think #ranks).

Sorry but I don't have energy to do that all. But you can do it. You can download the newest mergestats (v.1.

from my page and the log files from this thread and then just split the log files into weekly files and then generate the statistics from each file. All you have to do in mergestats is to import the log file (option 1) and save the result (option 16). The graphs can be harder to make. I guess you have to use for example excel to do that.

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 18 Jan 2009, 11:44

what about podium %

FinMan · Post by **FinMan** » 18 Jan 2009, 11:58

jaytea wrote:Ã'm first in the rankings for skill, how is that a weird result?

Other players.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 18 Jan 2009, 12:59

great stats

will it be updated frequently?

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 18 Jan 2009, 13:01

Pawq wrote:great stats will it be updated frequently?

I won't be updating these stats monthly because (hopefully) Elma Online will be ready soon and have better statistics. But here are the statistics, enjoy.

first events were strange, why were there so many balles with only one player? was this all testing?

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 19 Jan 2009, 04:27

zebra wrote:Sorry but I don't have energy to do that all. But you can do it.

i was hoping you would since i sure as hell am too lazy =D

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 11 Sep 2009, 23:55

zebra, can you make 07-xx when eol gets release?

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 13 Sep 2009, 11:33

i would only like to ask Zworqy to post whole belmal0gg0r till now. i could make stats

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 17 Sep 2009, 01:53

Pawq wrote:i would only like to ask Zworqy to post whole belmal0gg0r till now. i could make stats

http://up.k10x.net/bhrioufbfqkhz/ballelma_09.zip

gimp · Post by **gimp** » 17 Sep 2009, 04:22

ive always wondered, didnt skintor have a site that kept logs for belma, collected a bunch of money to and then kind of bailed out on it. did everybody get their money back?

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 17 Sep 2009, 06:11

Mawane wrote:zebra, can you make 07-xx when eol gets release?

yep, i think i can _when_ eol is released.

gimp, it was some early version of elma online and nobody got their money back, it was kinda sad. One day the server just was down and skint0r tried to get the server back up (at least he said he tried) but he couldn't and then he just pretty much disappeared.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 19 Sep 2009, 01:10

what im going to include:
-amount of balles played by particular players
-percentage of won balles
-average position
-average combined position (position/amount of players in every balle)

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 31 Oct 2009, 22:16

without considering varied nicks, v1.0

top10 players sorted by amount of won balles:
1. talli 6380(2010 - 31%)
2. adi 6279(1691 - 26%)
3. jaytea 4407(1579 - 35%)
4. Markku 3753(1567 - 41%)
5. Bjorn 5298(1254 - 23%)
6. Zweq 2412(1181 - 48%)
7. Kazan 3176(1028 - 32%)
8. BoneLESS 3221(1025 - 31%)
9. Smibu 5122(907 - 17%)
10. Kuper 3809(890 - 23%)

top10 players sorted by amount of balles played:
1. Pab 7390(850 - 11%)
2. talli 6380(2010 - 31%)
3. adi 6279(1691 - 26%)
4. barryp 5973(102 - 1%)
5. Lumen 5752(745 - 12%)
6. Bjorn 5298(1254 - 23%)
7. Pascal 5279(138 - 2%)
8. Smibu 5122(907 - 17%)
9. Kingy 4954(401 - 8%)
10. nick-o-matic 4860(273 - 5%)

top500 players sorted by amount of won balles

top1000 players sorted by amount of balles played

to be updated

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 31 Oct 2009, 22:41

from when to when?

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 31 Oct 2009, 22:48

from beginning (somewhere in 2007, will search later) till today 19.00

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 1 Nov 2009, 09:13

he still won the battles, so don't deduct.

31 Balle wins :S

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 1 Nov 2009, 12:37

by the way, should i exclude int balles and own balles wins?

FinMan · Post by **FinMan** » 1 Nov 2009, 12:55

Of course.

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 1 Nov 2009, 12:59

not internal battles, they're still battle wins and everyone else has just as much advantage

FinMan · Post by **FinMan** » 1 Nov 2009, 13:22

They're illegal battle wins. It stands in rules that no internal battles.

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 1 Nov 2009, 14:35

yeah, and remove winners from balle starters

nah, jk

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 1 Nov 2009, 15:26

OF COURSE INTERNAL BATLE WINS SHOULD BE EXCLUDED.

Winning an int battle is like winning an old level. It's just not fair.

Pab · Post by **Pab** » 1 Nov 2009, 17:15

i only remember 7380 where are that other 10?

love this: designers 872 battles

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 1 Nov 2009, 19:16

lol i have had like 50 different nicks.. hard to do my stats

and yes imo you should exclude own battle wins and internal battle wins if you want some "best battler" stats

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 23 Jul 2010, 21:58

zworqy wrote:
Pawq wrote:i would only like to ask Zworqy to post whole belmal0gg0r till now. i could make stats
http://up.k10x.net/bhrioufbfqkhz/ballelma_09.zip

http://zworqy.com/belma/ballelma_09.zip (whole 2009)
http://zworqy.com/belma/ballelma_10.zip (until now)

Pawq wanted teh

Memphis · Post by **Memphis** » 23 Jul 2010, 22:10

maybe don't be a tard and keep one nickname then.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 23 Jul 2010, 23:00

quickly runned old stats program on new log (time 0-now)
here resultsik:
http://up.k10x.net/hcfkkzunabgkf/belmastats.txt
as we have holidays now, maybe ill finally manage to write a decent stats program and to merge all nicks of same guys (at least most popular ones) xd

if someone orka look, % of won balles:
zweq-48
markku-41
jaytea-35
kazan-34
boneless-33
talli-32

its only top100 only above 30 and only basik nicks

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » 24 Jul 2010, 06:24

well, i often just download the lev(not playing at all), and try 2-3times, almost always with result: 0 apples, so ez better stats in EOL

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 24 Jul 2010, 10:59

cool

belma wrote:16. Ded 4807(5 - 0%)

veteran n00b xd

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 24 Jul 2010, 11:42

My first played battle: idk64.lev by hehe on 21.9.2009
First started battle: LousQ01.lev on 27.9.2009

I rembember kabii saying "needs more time" so I rebattled it. Kopaka aborted.

</narcissistic stats nobody cares about>

Thanks very much for those files! Very interesting stuff.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 24 Jul 2010, 14:49

Pawq wrote:http://up.k10x.net/hcfkkzunabgkf/belmastats.txt

kinda uninteresting who played how many battles, would be more interesting to at least know who WON how many.

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 24 Jul 2010, 14:52

Lukazz wrote:
Pawq wrote:http://up.k10x.net/hcfkkzunabgkf/belmastats.txt
kinda uninteresting who played how many battles, would be more interesting to at least know who WON how many.

That's obviously the number in parentheses.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 24 Jul 2010, 14:57

LousQ wrote:
Lukazz wrote:
Pawq wrote:http://up.k10x.net/hcfkkzunabgkf/belmastats.txt
kinda uninteresting who played how many battles, would be more interesting to at least know who WON how many.
That's obviously the number in parentheses.

i know of course, so pls sort the stats by wins.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 24 Jul 2010, 15:24

yea had a version sorting by amount of won balles too but lost it, and dont have the source code to the norm one anymore so cant edit. ill just have to get down to it and write it properly. maybe one day xd ill try to release overall stats for belma when belma is closed. just btw, does registration at eol site equal getting an account? :O was supposed to be closed :s

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 24 Jul 2010, 15:56

Pawq wrote:does registration at eol site equal getting an account? :O was supposed to be closed :s

read here:

milagros wrote:btw if someone hasn't noticed :
[14:12] *** Jappe2 changed the topic to: ELMA ONLINE | Register here: http://elmaonline.moposite.com/ and pm kopaka in mopolauta for playing rights

means: if you don't pm kopa and he gives you playing rights you have an account but you won't be able to do anything.