Golden Apple Awards 2009

Post by **SveinR** » 27 Jan 2010, 15:50

nick-o-matic wrote:I so hate this rookie-definition. I really think like this:
nick-o-matic wrote:You should use also some common sense instead of just one single absolute rule in the definition of a rookie. (......) Actually I think there should be the best improver-prize instead of the best rookie-prize.
Like you should be allowed to play elma a bit even for quite a long time but if you really start playing more and becoming rapidly better in 2009 there should be the possiblity to nominate you the 2009 rookie or improver or whatever. In the current system if you apper to the scene for example in June or July its impsy rookie prize which sucks.

Well, I can agree with this to an extent, but remember that the Rookie award doesn't have to go to someone because of their playing skills. An Improver award seems to favor playing over, for instance, level designing or contributions. But such an award will definitely be up for discussion next year.

I do think it's possible to be a contender for the Rookie award if you join the scene in June/July, for some. So then you get the dilemma (if we allowed 6 months prior to the period as opposed to 3 months): Should we nominate this person for the Rookie award now, since he is certainly qualified for it, or should we rather wait to next year so he may have a better chance of winning?

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 27 Jan 2010, 16:05

And then someone will join in May this year, and people will complain about that, then 2011 someone will join in April etc. What's the point in drawing a line if you're gonna stop obeying it every time you feel like it? And what's the point in the rookie award if you don't draw a line?

Perhaps we should hold a poll over the next week or so, in which people can vote over how long of a period they think the rookie category should extend? The result of the poll would be taken into consideration when preparing the next GAA.

As for this year, I think we should stick to the line we drew.

And I'm trying to be completely neutral in this matter. Would there have been such a discussion had there been some semi-unknown random kuski who had been excluded? I don't think so. And I have nothing against Nekit, quite the contrary in fact. However, I still think we shouldn't bend the rules just because they happen to affect someone we like.

Costya · Post by **Costya** » 27 Jan 2010, 16:43

Igge wrote:However, I still think we shouldn't bend the rules just because they happen to affect someone we like.

On the contrary, i see that the aim of this ceremony is to reward that people who we like. And if the rules contradicts with the will of the scene its not a good rules.

Let's dont play in ceremonial trial juge processes with their strict rules. Let's dont play in democracy like it was in Manderlay film.

In fact there is no need in strict rules. Registration data is not a good evidence that someone entered the scene exactly in that period.
Example. One person could be regestered at April but he dont play elma since registration. But in a half a year he becomes realy be active in the scene, but according excisting rules he can't be chosed as a rookie of the next year under any circumstunces, however common sence say us that he could.
In this tricky cases scene will decide. I see three mechanism of it.
1) On the step of nomination someone rises the question of legitimity. Some oldfags should be eliminated on this step.
2) On the step of voting this type of persons will recieve less amount of points because that part of community thinking that this person is nonlegitime will not vote for him
3) Finally jury who are represent honorable trustable and clever part of scene add some pros or cons points of him.
If he won, so he deserve it.

Costya · Post by **Costya** » 27 Jan 2010, 18:19

one more question for jury.

Why period of GAA09 was defined from December 16th 2008 to December 31st 2009

The deadline of submitting scene suggestions was 17 November last year. So till that time community couldn't suggest any new candidats. Why this year period was taken started from 16 December? Where the month is gone?

Do jury really could chose Nekit as progressive kuski last year? I doubt.
But why jury denies the right of community chose nekit this year who perfectly fits into 3 month range? (17 november - 3 months = 17 august, that earlier then his registration on elmaclub)

Pab · Post by **Pab** » 27 Jan 2010, 19:05

i wanna be rokie again, put me

Post by **SveinR** » 27 Jan 2010, 19:56

Costya wrote:one more question for jury.

Why period of GAA09 was defined from December 16th 2008 to December 31st 2009

The deadline of submitting scene suggestions was 17 November last year. So till that time community couldn't suggest any new candidats. Why this year period was taken started from 16 December? Where the month is gone?

The Second step (the jury's nomination process where the canditates to each category is chosen) for GAA08 ended December 16th 2008. The jury can choose candidates that are not suggested by the community, so notable events occuring from 17 November to 16 December were taken care of for GAA08. Likewise, for GAA09, the deadline for the community suggestions was 16 December, but the jury has taken the entire year (up to 31 December) into consideration. Nothing is lost here.

Costya · Post by **Costya** » 27 Jan 2010, 20:13

SveinR wrote:Nothing is lost here.

opinion of community is lost

nick-o-matic · Post by **nick-o-matic** » 27 Jan 2010, 23:17

SveinR wrote:...but remember that the Rookie award doesn't have to go to someone because of their playing skills. An Improver award seems to favor playing over, for instance, level designing or contributions.

Hmm, before I actually thought it's particulary about the player's skills.

SveinR wrote:I do think it's possible to be a contender for the Rookie award if you join the scene in June/July, for some. So then you get the dilemma (if we allowed 6 months prior to the period as opposed to 3 months): Should we nominate this person for the Rookie award now, since he is certainly qualified for it, or should we rather wait to next year so he may have a better chance of winning?

I think you shouldn't think the first appearance in #ballelma logs, nor lauta registeration date, but some approximate date from which the player has really became active and jury could think that date with common sense. And the strict limit (previous year's August or whatever) should be for this date.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » 30 Jan 2010, 00:36

I will vote tomorrow.

Labs · Post by **Labs** » 30 Jan 2010, 10:25

http://teamspeed.milleniumlist.info/video/43.html

If someone want check online (without download) my new He He style. (43x55822)

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 30 Jan 2010, 10:29

Mawane wrote: mawane says:
VJAY!
gimme vjxb3b33 winner rec and i MIGHT vote for you in lev category

Since he asked in such a nice way, here are some:

http://zworqy.com/up/files/vjx3b33_243Chi.rec that is the winning replay when balled.

vjx3b33cp.rec already exists, please rename your file!
(Stupid zworqy, oki I rename)

http://zworqy.com/up/files/vjx3b33ga.rec this is better time and style made my Chip after balle.

http://zworqy.com/up/files/vjx3b33vj.rec this is same time same style with Chip, driven by me.

Now everyone who wants to see these, must be Maw and vote for me )

Post by **SveinR** » 31 Jan 2010, 22:40

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Post by **SveinR** » 31 Jan 2010, 23:50

The date and time of the final show has been settled: Sunday February 7th, at 20:00 EET (GMT+2). It will take place at #gaa on IRCnet.

Post by **SveinR** » 1 Feb 2010, 23:27

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Post by **SveinR** » 2 Feb 2010, 20:22

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Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 2 Feb 2010, 20:36

I believe that Rookie category should be replaced by improvement category. Someone, not necessarily someone who just joined, has proved outstanding amelioration should qualify for it. That means, if, in 2010, I lower my TT to 39 and drive one WR, I would be a candidate; if, in 2010, someone joins the scene and bursts a 41 TT out of no where (like Kiiwi did this year), he would be a candidate; if, in 2010, Thorze stop acting like a mongo and becomes a figure of respect, he would be candidate.

Wouldn't that be a better category than 3-month-prior Rookie one?

Post by **SveinR** » 2 Feb 2010, 20:41

Bismuth wrote:Wouldn't that be a better category than 3-month-prior Rookie one?

It could be a good category, but as I said earlier:

SveinR wrote:Well, I can agree with this to an extent, but remember that the Rookie award doesn't have to go to someone because of their playing skills. An Improver award seems to favor playing over, for instance, level designing or contributions. But such an award will definitely be up for discussion next year.

roope · Post by **roope** » 2 Feb 2010, 20:43

What if someone new is already max good in something? it isn't improving fo sho

Kiiwi · Post by **Kiiwi** » 2 Feb 2010, 21:12

I think this is a pointless debate, since it's obv been discussed almost every year and nothing's been resolved. So i think we should go along with what the "higher up's" decide, ofc reasonable argument's should be considered to be taken into account in describing rookie (if ever should sach arguments surface

)....Otherwise the whole category will be a line drawn on water like now and ppl are unconfident in their opinions, voting process suffers due to confusion caused by the fuss and half of the good candidates will be kicked out because standards change in middle of process.

Post by **SveinR** » 2 Feb 2010, 23:25

The deadline for submitting your votes has passed!

Pab · Post by **Pab** » 3 Feb 2010, 22:07

waj didnt vote xd

Juish · Post by **Juish** » 5 Feb 2010, 15:33

damn! i been so busy with starting college i didnt notice third step happened :S

niN · Post by **niN** » 5 Feb 2010, 16:18

I'm 80% sure I won't have internet access on the sunday. Good luck to all though!

Post by **SveinR** » 6 Feb 2010, 01:52

The results of the Fourth step

Here follows the top 5 in every category, as voted by the community (listed in alphabetical order).

01. INTERNALIST
Jarkko
John
Kazan
Raven
Zweq

02. EXTERNALIST
adi
BoneLESS
GRob
Kazan
NightMar

03. BATTLER
adi
Kazan
Markku
talli
Zweq

04. ROOKIE
Ecchi
kabii
Kiiwi
Mielz
Thunder

05. DESIGNER
barryp
igge
Mawane
Pab
Ramone

06. TEAM
EPO
HHIT
MiE
SPEED
WNO

07. WR
05. Uphill Battle: 19,79 Jarkko #301
07. Hi Flyer: 28,32 Zweq #302
15. Serpents Tale: 51,50 talli #298
28. Bounce Back: 48,86 Zweq #302
31. Animal Farm: 1:12,41 John #298

08. STYLE
John/AnpDaD's New Wave
Kazan's Sink middle
Raven's Labyrinth Pro middle turn trick
talli's Serpents Tale
Zweq's Hi Flyer (new higher brutal style)

09. REPLAY
07. Hi Flyer: Not finished (07zwoot7.rec) Zweq
29. Headbanger: 43,26 Bjorn
35. Labyrinth Pro: 2:14,32 Zweq
ChainPII.lev: 19:11,69 adi
TEH04.lev: 39,82 BoneLESS

10. LEVEL
BC412.lev Total Banana by Ramone
ChainPII.lev Chain Pie II MPFKBJKZB by Mawane et al.
Ram772.lev First Fucking Finish by Ramone
TEH03.lev Barely Touched by igge
vjxb3b33.lev Poseidon by Ville_J

11. CONTEST
Banana Cup 4
JoPi levelpack
MawCup
First Finish Cups
TEH Cup

12. CONTRIBUTION
Kopaka: Working on the new Elma Online site, made the Open Source Automated Cup Website, updates Kopasite, organized TEH Cup, GAA jury member
Pawq: Updates the Best Internal Total Times (under 40 minutes) list and the list of the best Professional Replays
Smibu: Made the Level Manager and Replay Manager programs, did belma and ALE fixes
SveinR: GAA organizer, Multi WR updater, Mopolauta admin
zworqy: Maintaining the belma server

13. ACHIEVEMENT
John: Being the first to break the 36 minute limit in total time, continues to be on the #1 spot
Mielz: Improved his total time greatly, from 46:xx to 38:xx in less than a year
talli: Got 36 TT, pulled off and got WR with legendary Serpents Tale style
zaraptor: Got his first two WRs on the same table (#302)
Zweq: Got TT under 36 mins, got 36:41,75 in 24 hour TT, continues to get great WRs with new styles

14. SITE
Elasto Mania Stats Compare
Elma Online
Kopasite
Mopolauta
Zworqy's site

15. ART
Coc0k: 300 AVR Parts 1 & 2
igge: CETcast series and other movies
Jappe2: His movies
Mawane: mawrap
Pab: APipe levels and How to make APipes video

Pab · Post by **Pab** » 6 Feb 2010, 04:23

Excuse my ignorance but whats TT of Zweq?

Zweq: Got TT under 36 mins

i think Total Times updates are diferent from WRs Table at paprika site ¿?

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 6 Feb 2010, 16:26

http://mopolauta.moposite.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5992
35:55,28

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 7 Feb 2010, 18:15

#GAA in less than 40min! it starts then!

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 7 Feb 2010, 21:07

sax gaa, i didn't win

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 7 Feb 2010, 21:43

yey, updated my sig :)

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 7 Feb 2010, 22:04

logs plz <3

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 7 Feb 2010, 22:09

Pab · Post by **Pab** » 7 Feb 2010, 22:52

damn ramone, ez pwnage

Post by **SveinR** » 8 Feb 2010, 23:37

Golden Apple Awards 2009

Time: February 7th 2010, 20:00 EET (GMT+2)
Place: #gaa for the show, #across for talk

Jury: BoneLESS, igge, Kopaka, Markku, Raven and SveinR

GAA winners:

01. Internalist - Zweq
02. Externalist - adi
03. Battler - Zweq
04. Rookie - Mielz
05. Designer - Ramone
06. Team - WNO
07. WR - 05. Uphill Battle: 19,79 Jarkko #301
08. Style - talli's Serpents Tale
09. Replay - 07. Hi Flyer: Not finished (07zwoot7.rec) Zweq
10. Level - ChainPII.lev Chain Pie II MPFKBJKZB by Mawane et al.
11. Contest - Banana Cup 4
12. Contribution - Kopaka: Working on the new Elma Online site, made the Open Source Automated Cup Website, updates Kopasite, organized TEH Cup, GAA jury member
13. Achievement - John: Being the first to break the 36 minute limit in total time, continues to be on the #1 spot
14. Site - Zworqy's site
15. Art - Jappe2: His movies
16. Community Award - Kopaka

How the winners were decided:
For the 15 regular awards: The community gave two votes to its top candidate, and one vote to its second-highest candidate. The jury members had one vote each, and a jury member could not vote for himself (but he could choose not to vote). In the case of a draw, the candidate ranked highest by the community won.
For the Community Award: Here the community's votes decide everything.

The community votes: (when there are an equal amount of points, the one with the most 5-pointers is ranked higher, if same amount of 5-pointers then the one with most 4-pointers, etc.
I have only shown the top5 here.)

01. INTERNALIST

97 Zweq
71 John
53 Kazan
39 Raven
30 Jarkko

02. EXTERNALIST

96 adi
64 BoneLESS
49 NightMar
45 Kazan
33 GRob

03. BATTLER

90 Zweq
55 Kazan
45 Markku
35 adi
35 talli

04. ROOKIE

86 Mielz
50 kabii
46 Kiiwi
40 Ecchi
29 Thunder

05. DESIGNER

58 Ramone
57 igge
52 Mawane
39 Pab
39 barryp

06. TEAM

55 WNO
52 EPO
44 MiE
35 SPEED
31 HHIT

07. WR

82 05. Uphill Battle: 19,79 Jarkko #301
76 07. Hi Flyer: 28,32 Zweq #302
49 31. Animal Farm: 1:12,41 John #298
43 28. Bounce Back: 48,86 Zweq #302
36 15. Serpents Tale: 51,50 talli #298

08. STYLE

67 talli's Serpents Tale
42 Zweq's Hi Flyer (new higher brutal style)
32 Raven's Labyrinth Pro middle turn trick
30 John/AnpDaD's New Wave
24 Kazan's Sink middle

09. REPLAY

52 07. Hi Flyer: Not finished (07zwoot7.rec) Zweq
38 ChainPII.lev: 19:11,69 adi
31 29. Headbanger: 43,26 Bjorn
26 35. Labyrinth Pro: 2:14,32 Zweq
22 TEH04.lev: 39,82 BoneLESS

10. LEVEL

33 ChainPII.lev Chain Pie II MPFKBJKZB by Mawane et al.
24 Ram772.lev First Fucking Finish by Ramone
17 vjxb3b33.lev Poseidon by Ville_J
13 BC412.lev Total Banana by Ramone
13 TEH03.lev Barely Touched by igge

11. CONTEST

48 Banana Cup 4
48 TEH Cup
35 First Finish Cups
29 MawCup
22 JoPi levelpack

12. CONTRIBUTION

62 Smibu: Made the Level Manager and Replay Manager programs, did belma and ALE fixes
50 Kopaka: Working on the new Elma Online site, made the Open Source Automated Cup Website, updates Kopasite, organized TEH Cup, GAA jury member
44 Pawq: Updates the Best Internal Total Times (under 40 minutes) list and the list of the best Professional Replays
29 zworqy: Maintaining the belma server
25 SveinR: GAA organizer, Multi WR updater, Mopolauta admin

13. ACHIEVEMENT

82 Zweq: Got TT under 36 mins, got 36:41,75 in 24 hour TT, continues to get great WRs with new styles
80 John: Being the first to break the 36 minute limit in total time, continues to be on the #1 spot
46 talli: Got 36 TT, pulled off and got WR with legendary Serpents Tale style
38 zaraptor: Got his first two WRs on the same table (#302)
33 Mielz: Improved his total time greatly, from 46:xx to 38:xx in less than a year

14. SITE

40 Zworqy's site
40 Elma Online
36 Elasto Mania Stats Compare
34 Mopolauta
26 Kopasite

15. ART

49 Jappe2: His movies
36 Mawane: mawrap
28 Pab: APipe levels and How to make APipes video
25 igge: CETcast series and other movies
23 Coc0k: 300 AVR Parts 1 & 2

16. COMMUNITY AWARD

16 Kopaka
14 nick-o-matic
14 milagros
10 Pab
8 Zweq

Some stats:

Most votes for one candidate went to Zweq for Internalist, Mielz for Rookie, talli for Style, Banana Cup 4 for Contest and John for Achievement: They got 7 votes each (one vote away from the highest amount possible).
Least amount of votes for a winning candidate went to Zworqy's site for Site: It got 2 votes, and was drawn with two other sites (the decider was the amount of 5-pointers from the community).
Most 5-pointers from the community in the Third Step went to Mielz for Rookie, with 15 5-pointers.
Most votes for one candidate from the community in the Third Step went to adi for Externalist, with votes from 22 people.
Most points for one candidate from the community in the Third Step went to Zweq for Internalist, with 97 points.
There was a draw in two categories: Designer and Site. The number of community points was then of course the decider.
Zweq won the Internalist and the Battler awards for the third years in a row.
adi for Externalist, Ramone for Designer and Kopaka for Contribution won their awards for the second year in a row.

Speeches:

Start speech:

[19:01:00] <SveinR> 20:00 EET Greetings, welcome to the 7th annual Golden Apple Awards!
[19:01:09] <SveinR> This channel is +m so only operators and voiced people will be able to talk, use #across for free talk. Stupid nick changes will result in a ban.
[19:01:19] <SveinR> The are 16 categories and five candidates in each category. The candidates have been chosen by the jury and the community, click here for more info: http://mopolauta.moposite.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6552
[19:01:27] <SveinR> The jury consists of six members: BoneLESS, igge, Kopaka, Markku, Raven and SveinR
[19:01:34] <SveinR> The winners are determined by community votes and jury votes. In the event of a tie, community votes matter.
[19:01:46] <SveinR> If I get disconnected and won't come back for an hour, the show will be postponed to the same time tomorrow.
[19:02:08] <SveinR> -----------------------------------------------------
[19:02:30] <SveinR> Ok, so with the formalities under way, we move on to the first category of the evening!

01. Internalist, Zweq

[19:06:32] <SveinR> Zweq does not seem to be present
[19:06:53] <SveinR> apparently he's hanging out with juzam somewhere :)
[19:07:20] <SveinR> Well, congratulations to him anyway, it's certainly well deserved

02. Externalist, adi

[19:11:07] <adi_MiE> Thanks! This is my second win in this category, and last time I didn't prepare a speech because I didn't belive I could win. Anyway, last year was pretty special to me since I got a new cool team, so I'd like to thank my teammates nick-o-matic, roope, Koopa, Bliz, -Nico-o and Dead One.

03. Battler, Zweq

[19:15:57] <igge> Who, unfortunately, is not present at the moment
[19:16:10] <igge> A well deserved win though

04. Rookie, Mielz

[19:19:49] <Mielz|EF> Thanks! Im glad i won my first GAA :) Id like to thank to team EF and all people who helped me a lot, especially Morgan and Bjorn. Without their help it would be much harder for me in the beggining in the scene. Thanks again!

05. Designer, Ramone

[19:29:07] <Raven|> Ramone doing some real life at the moment, so let's hear his speech later.
[...]
[20:16:43] <RamoneTAP> I would like to thank all who voted for me.
[20:16:50] <RamoneTAP> And as long as I keep enjoying elma I will keep making levels.
[20:17:01] <RamoneTAP> Levmaking comes more natural to me than playing lately.
[20:17:09] <RamoneTAP> Since I make much levels quite fast Belma and me seems to be the perfect wedding.
[20:17:17] <RamoneTAP> Otherwise all levels just stays unplayed on my computer.
[20:17:27] <RamoneTAP> So once again, thanks to all who voted for me.
[20:17:34] <RamoneTAP> Also, great thanks to mila and zworqy for Belma.

06. Team, WNO

[19:36:24] <John--> On behalf of whole WNO (I guess) I'd like to thank you all for this award. The 3 of us remaining in the team has now stuck together since fall of 2003, about 6½ years. Let's hope we stick together a few years more... Thanks!

07. WR, Jarkko

[19:43:31] <Jarkko^> Thanks, I don't know what to say.

08. Style, talli

[19:50:10] <Raven|> talli is footbagging so he's not here right now :(

09. Replay, Zweq

[19:57:00] <Kopaka> another one for zweq, congrats

10. Level, Mawane

[20:02:03] <Mawane> :o
[20:02:03] <Kopaka> congrats Mawane
[20:02:03] <Mawane> This is the first time that a pipe wins a Lev category
[20:02:25] <Mawane> I would like to share this award with all levmaker
[20:02:25] <Mawane> Mawane, Pab, FinMan, Koopa, BarryP, Jappe2, Kopaka, Zebra and BoneLESS
[20:02:39] <Mawane> and thanks to all who participated, hope you are ready for Chain Pie 3
[20:02:51] <Mawane> That's all :)

11. Contest, team TAP

[20:10:43] <RamoneTAP> Seems zebra went offline...
[20:10:55] <RamoneTAP> anyway, zebra was the brain behind Banana Cup.
[20:11:08] <RamoneTAP> He had worked on ideas for this cup in his head for ages.
[20:11:27] <RamoneTAP> Then when it came closer to accually make it. It was me and Zebra who made most levels,
[20:11:55] <RamoneTAP> with this we had great fun. My first good teamexperiece.. we tested ideas and levels for hours
[20:12:05] <RamoneTAP> and days, over and over again.
[20:12:15] <zebraTAP_> bananacup won?
[20:12:23] <SveinR~> yeh :)
[20:12:23] <Kopaka> yes
[20:12:23] <igge> yes :)
[20:12:35] <zebraTAP_> thanks, elma scene has a good taste :)
[20:12:52] <zebraTAP_> fear of the banana comeback, the banana cup 3 :)
[20:13:12] <RamoneTAP> So, planning and hosting Banana Cup with zebra was one of best times I had with elma all these years!
[20:14:34] <zebraTAP_> yep it was great time
[20:14:35] <RamoneTAP> So, great thanks! Really appreciated!
[20:14:50] <RamoneTAP> Im glad best contest won!

12. Contribution, Kopaka

[20:24:35] <Kopaka> Thank you!
[20:24:56] <Kopaka> two years in a row :)
[20:25:32] <Kopaka> I don't know what to say, I just love elasto mania and keep doing all this stuff because of it :)
[20:26:18] <Kopaka> cheers to everyone else out there who does stuff like website, contests, cups, levels, ect. ect. who makes this scene what it is!

13. Achievement, John

[20:32:48] <John--> Thanks! It was a great feeling going under 36.00 in the early morning of June 29th after being "stuck" on 36.0x for so long, I guess I can consider this feat the greatest thing I've accomplished in the scene. It's pretty amazing how Elma is always developing. Every so-called impossible limit through the years has been broken so far and although I don't see myself or anyone else going under 35 minutes anytime soon it will most likely happen one day. It fe
[20:34:03] <John--> It feels like a new internalwave has evolved recently with a bunch of exciting players. Only time will tell what they will be capable of doing. Thanks again, I appreciate it :)
[20:34:06] <John--> :p

14. Site, Zworqy

[20:42:32] <zw0r> OMG! I'm so happy! I haven't prepared anything, but I would like to thank everyone who used my site and voted for it.
[20:42:42] <zw0r> *takes a bow*

15. Art, Jappe2

[20:49:27] <Jappe2> fuck you
[20:49:34] <Jappe2> i really have nothing to say
[20:49:44] <Jappe2> during the past year i have grown to hate this scene
[20:50:06] <Jappe2> and the total inability of the people in "power" to do anything to this mongoness, the scene has gone to hell
[20:50:19] <Jappe2> so fuck you all idiath cunts
[20:50:34] <Jappe2> there was this blissfull time when i couldnt really care if you guys died or not
[20:51:00] <Jappe2> but nowadays im hoping many of you would just die a horrible painfull death
[20:51:51] <Jappe2> there are few exceptions of course, like kopaka etc
[20:52:20] <Jappe2> also i enjoy trading child porn with ramone, he always has the kinkiest stuff
[20:52:26] <Jappe2> ok im done now

16. Community Award, Kopaka

[20:54:39] <SveinR~> The Community Award goes to a kuski who by the creation and public release of his Automated Cup source code and website, first used on his own very successful cup, has led to an explosion of new cups and made life easier for a lot of cup organizers.
[20:54:49] <SveinR~> His site, which he has maintained for many years, has grown to become the biggest site for external contests in the scene. In addition to his own levels, it includes a wealth of levelpacks by others.
[20:55:01] <SveinR~> Soon the Elasto Mania world will see the release of Elma Online, and a large part of the scene will then revolve around something this guy has been working on for a long time: The Elma Online site.
[20:55:10] <SveinR~> This is a guy who for many many years has contributed to the scene and made the experience of being in it that much better. His contributions certainly has not gone unnoticed, thank you very much and congratulations...
[20:55:19] <SveinR~> Kopaka!

[20:55:45] <Kopaka> thank you everybody who voted!
[20:55:51] <Kopaka> and to sveinr for the nice speech :*
[20:55:58] <SveinR~> :*
[20:56:56] <Kopaka> I hope everyone will enjoy the EOL site once it's released
[20:57:30] <Kopaka> please feel free to contact me for any wishes/bugs ect. for the EOL site so we can make it as good as possible :)
[20:57:57] <Kopaka> I feel like I've kinda neglected kopasite lately, but I have some big plans there once eol is released :p
[20:58:28] <Kopaka> thanks again, I hope we can all enjoy this scene for many years to came, as the last 8 years that I've been here has been great! :*

End speech:

[20:59:30] <SveinR> This brings us, after about 2 hours, to the close of the Golden Apple Awards 2009!
[21:00:12] <SveinR> We hope you enjoyed it, and again congratulations to all the winners, well deserved awards to you all :)
[21:00:40] <SveinR> Thanks to all who voted
[21:01:11] <SveinR> We hope to see you again in about a year, for now, good night!

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We will meet again in a year, hope you enjoyed it! Many thanks to all who voted and participated and to the jury members :)
And once again, huge congratulations to all the winners!

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 9 Feb 2010, 10:15

SveinR wrote:12. CONTRIBUTION

62 Smibu: Made the Level Manager and Replay Manager programs, did belma and ALE fixes
50 Kopaka: Working on the new Elma Online site, made the Open Source Automated Cup Website, updates Kopasite, organized TEH Cup, GAA jury member
44 Pawq: Updates the Best Internal Total Times (under 40 minutes) list and the list of the best Professional Replays
29 zworqy: Maintaining the belma server
25 SveinR: GAA organizer, Multi WR updater, Mopolauta admin

wtf is this, why did kopaka win??

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 9 Feb 2010, 11:14

Getting the most votes from the community means you get 2p. Even if someone gets 100 votes from the community, the Jury's vote can still cancel that out.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 10 Feb 2010, 11:13

and the jury who like kopaka makes him win, no offence kopa but thats annoying.

roope · Post by **roope** » 10 Feb 2010, 12:08

Yes, it does appear that most of the jury members are friends of Kopaka. But well, who isn't?

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 10 Feb 2010, 12:17

Breaking elma scene news! Conspiracy! Corruption!

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 10 Feb 2010, 18:10

i should have won anyway so wtf are you talking about

Labs · Post by **Labs** » 10 Feb 2010, 19:12

milagros wrote:i should have won anyway so wtf are you talking about

Nah, you will win next with eol