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Here we can collect the recommended FPS for all internal levels, so you don't have to ask every time in EOL which FPS is good for some int.

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 01: MAX
02: 30
03: MAX
04: 600-999
05: MAX
06: HIGH
07: MAX
08: 100-99
09: 500-999
10: 300-400
13: 300-999
15: HIGH
16: MAX
17: 300-999
18: LOW (MAX fps for end) 
19: 250-999
20: 300-999
21: 250
22: 300-999
23: 400
24: MAX
25: 30-999
26: 300-999
27: 250
28: 250-999
29: 450
30: 80-300
31: 60
32: MAX
33: 350-999
34: 100
35: 500-999
36: 300-999
37: 600-999
38: 600
39: MAX
40: HIGH
41: 600-999
42: 300-999
43: 200/MAX (200 fps for mid wr-trick, MAX for the rest)
44: 75
45: 75
46: 500-999
47: (Bugbancers, 100)
48: 500-999
49: 500-999
50: MAX
51: 500-999
52: LOW (hard good end-bounce with LOW fps though)
53: 250-999
54: 350-999
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05: Max, glide not possible without enough fps
07: Same as 05
27: 100-200 I think to be able to get through hole
31: 60 fps for WR-style
44: I use 30, but not sure why. Seems better grip and more ez to fly far.
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Some FPS values for levs, that I know with high certainty are optimal or close to optimal in 2017.

02 - 30
04 - 45
07 - 999
15 - 45
31 - 60
34 - 100
44 - 30
45 - 72-75
52 - 999
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72fps for 45int rocks if i remember correct, orka check.
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Last time i checked, int 45 rocked with 75 fps, but that was with my old monitor. I can't get as good starts now with my new, maybe i just suck now =o
And about int29 max fps is obviously possible for pipe entry and better for the whole level with grips, just take a look at GRobs style for entry, it'v very convenient.

45 - 75 fps
29 - max
03 - high
06 - high: I think more possible to get good end bance
10 - less than 200?
13 - high/max
15 - high fps for any style
17 - any fps works good from 200-max
22 - any fps from 300-max imo
24 - max
40 - high
43 - any from 200-max works, 200: easier with wr mid-style. max: faster start bounce and faster wr mid if you can make it.
47 - any fps you feel comfortable with =D low for bugbance, like 100
50 - high
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From memory 130fps is sick pro for int27
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Haruhi wrote:From memory 130fps is sick pro for int27
Why is that? you want as high fps as possible normally for convenient play and good grip anywhere (especially for the start bounce), 250 I would recommend any person.
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What about WU?
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why not high fps for the steppes? i always played it with max fps.
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01 - MAX (old style)
02 - 30 fps
03 - MAX
04 - 40-300
05 - MAX
06 - 500-999
07 - 400-999
08 - 100-999
09 - 500-999
10 - 300-400
11 - 200-345
12 - 300-999
13 - 300-999
14 - 60 or MAX
15 - MAX (old style)
16 - MAX
17 - 300-1000
18 - 30-50 (end is easier with higher fps)
19 - 200-999
20 - 300-999
21 - 30-999 (start is easier with higher fps)
22 - 200-999
23 - 400
24 - MAX (start is easier with lower fps)
25 - 100-999
26 - 300-999
27 - 350
28 - 200-999
29 - 300-450
30 - 86
31 - 60
32 - MAX (start is impsy with low fps)
33 - 350-999
34 - 107
35 - 500-999
36 - 300-999
37 - 600-999
38 - 600
39 - MAX
40 - 600-999
41 - 300-999
42 - 300-999
43 - 180-220
44 - 75
45 - 75
46 - 500-999
47 - 97-105
48 - 500-999
49 - 500-999
50 - MAX
51 - 500-999
52 - LOW (end-bounce is easier with high fps)
53 - 51
54 - 300-999
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Good post Madness, except that it was bad because you don't explain the certain values, like Pipe - 86 fps?? wateh. Maybe good value for your comp setup and monitor but you have to make it more general for the people.
Also why do you add the internals that have been written already without explanation for the new fps value?
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5 years of testing.
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Lukazz wrote:why not high fps for the steppes? i always played it with max fps.
I think it's easier to brutal with lower fps, you get down the head more close to the ground easier.
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Pipe is completely ok with 300 fps + torrent running in background ;). 80-300 drivable. Anything over makes minor difference.
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fps setup is overrated
except levs like 02, 05, 27, 31, 39, 45 (most of them mentioned by for example zweq) where is does reasonable difference, for most of the levs its just a 0.0x difference, useful only when you go for some hoyla wr (otherwise ez MAX fps best for playing)
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all people getting the 27fps wrong imo

anything under 350 is too low and u'll bang ur head if u get good speed for the hole.
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milagros wrote:[...] useful only when you go for some hoyla wr (otherwise ez MAX fps best for playing)
MAX fps makes the bike quite inflexible and volting a bit slower, for instance with max fps I miss the apple after doing alovolt at the left pole in Gravity Ride pretty often, also I've noticed I can't do fast Headbanger start with max fps at all, and brutals are slower as well. Thus I think max fps isn't much better overall. Maybe better to learn play with. :)
Kiiwi wrote:all people getting the 27fps wrong imo
anything under 350 is too low and u'll bang ur head if u get good speed for the hole.
You're right, I had tested this quite a long time ago with slower style. Just tried some fps values now and 350 seems indeed better for WR-style, because it slows down the passage through the hole a bit and makes the drop on the polygon much faster.
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Madness wrote: 38 - 600
8O I can't spinnik and get the apples with that high fps, not enough stretch!
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I can agree with int 12 madness, but I can do 29 fine with max fps but not every try, it's harder yes. And with max fps you generally can make better bounces and higher brutals, and those are used pretty commonly in todays battle levels so I play with max fps because it's best imo.
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Madness is right about the flexibility in gravity ride. The headbanger pipe entry is essentially the same issue, at least it used to be. I'm not very familiar with the new high speed start. However, something like 107 in bumpy is complete bullshit. Do you have any idea how much you actually have to do testing to prove one fps value is better than another? in a höyl lev? I would say at least 5 hours for each value, and still, it would be next to impossible to distinguish the difference. I can understand 80-120, we both know the start, the way it is now(well, you could do it differently), requires an fps somewhere around 100, but I dont understand 107. It's simply impossible for a human to prove 107 is better than any adjacent values.

When it comes to doing nonxiit wrs, most of the time it's about playability and consistency, for that you pick any fps that you're familiar with, any fps you have used for a long time, unless there's some special tricks or whatever. I implied those on my last post. When it comes to doing tool assisted wrs, you'd want to use 30fps, because there's a lot of errors, which I like to call "randomness", you might suddenly win a lot of time like 0.05.
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Zweq wrote:[...] However, something like 107 in bumpy is complete bullshit. Do you have any idea how much you actually have to do testing to prove one fps value is better than another? in a höyl lev? I would say at least 5 hours for each value, and still, it would be next to impossible to distinguish the difference. I can understand 80-120, we both know the start, the way it is now(well, you could do it differently), requires an fps somewhere around 100, but I dont understand 107. It's simply impossible for a human to prove 107 is better than any adjacent values. [...]
Nobody can prove that one fps value is better than another, all these values I've written are based on my own experience and might not be good for everyone. But anyway, I think 107 fps is hell good. xD
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i feel like only experts of the given said level are able to actually contribute to this topic and even then its hard to say it will work for someone else, but i guess that's why they are recommendations eh? might i suggest that next to the times you put who made the recommendation?

i have hoyled 21 more than most people here on several different fps counts, dont play it at 30-100 cause its simply too hard to do the start right. i find the best is generally between 150 and 350, so lets just say 250 for the sake of needing one answer.
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I'm not trying to be more dickhead than I already am, I'm just saying it sounds odd having some definite 86 or 107 value as a "recommendation" on levels that dont have any mongoing between two edges (animal farm, sink). Who is going to find such a recommendation valuable? yes it really bothers me :D
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yeah these recommendations dont matter much unless your going for wr or something. for example i can get low .4x on hangman with any fps if i wanted to, but to get .3x times i think paying attention to the fps is vital. even then i dont think i could tell a difference between 155 or 161 at all though, just know that you should definitely not play it under 100.
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43: 200/MAX (200 fps for mid wr-trick, MAX for the rest)
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43 is fastest with max fps, also mid part. The thing is that you get out of the "loop" faster with max fps, so you maybe earn 0.1 or so.
But it's higher probability you fly further before you are going to make the longjump over the gap, then you will not get as good jump. But ofc you can get the perfect loop so you don't fly any further than usual but it's very hard, you have to time alo-volt correctly and enter with correct angle. So pro fps for 43 imo is max.
This is my experience of the level anyway. Labs what have you tried/experienced?
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Hehe is oki with any fps i guess, but mid is much EZer with 100 fps. But you can't use 100 if wanne good run cause of bad bnc then on start part. With 200 fps you can get mid too but will be all random, so sometimes it will be ok, sometimes very bad, but you can get good bnc in start with it at least. If you set the fps bigger than 300 then you get nice bnc part but mid is still random and at least i can't get other parts smooth, i must say it will be like if you going in a rink at the brake parts. I play with 210 fps :*
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Pab wrote:
43: 200/MAX (200 fps for mid wr-trick, MAX for the rest)
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Zweq wrote:I would say at least 5 hours for each value, and still, it would be next to impossible to distinguish the difference.
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Ves wrote:Or 5 minutes with hourglass.
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how does FPS make difference in int02?
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I think low fps makes you spin faster(?). or something like that xddd
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i don't think its caused by that, because otehrwise you would turn and throttle if you needed faster spinning
but yeah, start can be done faster with 60fps or less
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I have managed to do deds 02 start with gas/brakes/turns and what not. I understand why it is faster but I can't really explain it, but you get better spinspeed with it after the combo is done, more spin than if you would just gas+turn. Pretty amusing.
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did you use 30 fps too?
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i did 14.66 with 31fps :)
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Lukazz wrote:did you use 30 fps too?
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for int15 - 100 fps?
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15 - as high as you can and still get first apple consistently. I used 40 or 45, cant quite remember which one, so i get apple 95%+. Can use 60-100, but getting the first apple gets harder the higher fps you go, and becomes impsy at some point.
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There's an alternative style for int15 also which makes first apple easier, for anyone who doesn't want to use that 60 fps or less. I think it's like 0,2 slower or so, can't remember really. http://www.recsource.tv/r/wvlmedfhcy
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Zweq wrote:Some FPS values for levs, that I know with high certainty are optimal or close to optimal in 2017.

02 - 30
04 - 45
07 - 999
15 - 45
31 - 60
34 - 100
44 - 30
45 - 72-75
52 - 999
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i was trying different fps in int15 and for me was:

60-80 fps very bad for 1st apple
100 fps - 30% apple take
90 fps - 60% apple take

so for me 90 is enough oke
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I donno imo the higher you get in serp, the worse it gets. You somehow get faster 2nd apples with very low fps. You also somehow fly further in the end the lower fps you got. But maby I'm just a nab shit
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