Unofficial patch 1.11h

Hibernatus · Post by **Hibernatus** » 17 Jul 2002, 18:03

Hi,
I've just made a patch for elma.exe. I'm sorry, i should have thought about it earlier. It was much easier than making alovolt.exe.
This patch adds the "Merge Replays" function (a bit safer than nitro, and with the randomizer enabled).

And of course it adds the alovolt. You need to run alovoltpatch.exe to change the keys (close elma before patching, otherwise elma.exe will be write-protected).

So now alovolt works under Win98 and you don't have to spread nitro (which helps the cheaters).

What's cool when you use my patch instead of nitro is that you play, beat WRs and merge replays with the same program

And of course i made it with elma 1.11a.

/edit: Final version, with a funny feature for watching replays

http://membres.lycos.fr/realathlon/pv/elma111h.zip

Also, if you want to merge recs you can use this old program of mine:

http://membres.lycos.fr/realathlon/pv/recmerge.zip

And don't forget to play my across lev pack

http://213.237.35.1/acrossdk/

Hmm what could i advertise else?

AloVolt tool for WinXP users who are scared by patches:

http://membres.lycos.fr/realathlon/pv/Alovolt_.zip
51 flowers in a lev to let you make multi-end levs:

http://membres.lycos.fr/realathlon/pv/flowers2.lev

I think that's all, folks.

Have fun

Post by **Abula** » 17 Jul 2002, 18:47

There will come a newer and updated version of this patch which I'll upload to Moposite with a full explanation. So download now only for testing.

Hib: is randomizer really needed (I think it's very useless) if it's about the size of exe. Where are the "Help" and "Demo"? Without those it won't be an official upgrade :/.

dz · Post by dz » 17 Jul 2002, 19:46

link is not working

Dariuz · Post by **Dariuz** » 17 Jul 2002, 21:01

i found this: http://membres.lycos.fr/realathlon/pv/EMRMP_temp.zip

edit: it's works great! good job hib

Hibernatus · Post by **Hibernatus** » 17 Jul 2002, 21:23

hmmm came here to put the link back, but i see it's now useless

i renamed it because abula asked me for a small update.
about the Demo and Help functions :
"Demo" has been replaced by Merge Replays and it's useless. The code is still in the exe though.
"Help" was a cool place for putting my code, so i shrinked it by making an "About" screen instead.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 17 Jul 2002, 21:27

sounds good...
let's try...

Post by **Abula** » 17 Jul 2002, 23:48

Hibernatus wrote:"Help" was a cool place for putting my code, so i shrinked it by making an "About" screen instead.

Please put the help back. In updated readme.txt you will get the credits.

marty · Post by **marty** » 18 Jul 2002, 10:09

its perfect!

bob · Post by **bob** » 18 Jul 2002, 12:03

IT NEVER WANTS TO FUKN WORK FOR ME.....says "I/O error - cannot read zip file when im tryin to extract elma.exe
curse this shit

Post by **SveinR** » 18 Jul 2002, 22:13

Great work Hibernatus!

marty · Post by **marty** » 19 Jul 2002, 02:52

bob wrote:IT NEVER WANTS TO FUKN WORK FOR ME.....says "I/O error - cannot read zip file when im tryin to extract elma.exe
curse this shit

download a newer version. its perfect!!!!!!!

jcl · Post by **jcl** » 20 Jul 2002, 14:12

Hib I keep getting this error message when trying to replay recs:
Recorded file version is too old!

Never seen before patching

Hibernatus · Post by **Hibernatus** » 21 Jul 2002, 23:03

Hi,
This is an update.
Now the alovolt key is disabled when you don't play.
Alovoltpatch.exe is better (checks the CRC and displays error messages).
It would be a final version if i didn't add that new feature (see elma1.11h.txt)...

http://membres.lycos.fr/realathlon/pv/elma1.11h.zip

jcl: Please mail me your .rec file. You'd better mail me when you see a bug anyway.

dz · Post by dz » 22 Jul 2002, 21:31

i guess were all waiting for final version of the patch

Post by **Abula** » 22 Jul 2002, 23:21

dz wrote:i guess were all waiting for final version of the patch

I thought this one was..? Hib will be away one month or something now. Maybe we hear about him before.

However I know what dz meant. Alovolt doesn't work for him anymore. Or what, dz? I get internal errors when trying to play Circuitous or Shelf Life. Only those levels.

Mick · Post by **Mick** » 23 Jul 2002, 05:28

it works perfect for me, all levels are fine. i have win 2000 pro though :\

eyals · Post by **eyals** » 26 Jul 2002, 20:26

sorry everything works but no volts are happening in using winME.

Hibernatus · Post by **Hibernatus** » 27 Jul 2002, 04:43

dz, Abula, eyals. You are all wrong. This patch works perfectly.
I guess dz didn't update alovoltpatch.exe, and eyals used alovolt.exe instead of the patch.

Well anyway, here is the final version.

http://membres.lycos.fr/realathlon/pv/elma_1.11h.zip

Read the TXT! I wrote a big one this time.
I'm going on holidays for 3 weeks (from Monday), but anyway i didn't plan working on it anymore.

dz · Post by dz » 27 Jul 2002, 05:48

ohh gotta try

mine was just after i formatted computer it didn't work, had to install it again (not much work though). otherwise, its working great. it's only i feel like the alovolt is little delayed compared to what i did by hands occasionally.. i cant get to ramp frenzy hole anymore, even i do it excactly like before..

dz · Post by dz » 27 Jul 2002, 06:06

and sometimes when i watch a replay to learn some difficult part, i press key just like i actually were playing.. so now i gotta press other keys since normal are for rec controls, just popped to my mind, i dont care, hehe

Hibernatus · Post by **Hibernatus** » 27 Jul 2002, 06:12

Hmm, i'm glad i came back to read this thread, because i *must* reply to your post dz...
The "delay" can be calculated, depending on the processor you have. lets see... about 1Âµs? Hmm i think your problem is that the alovolt key is too far from your finger... You just need to get used to it.

eyals · Post by **eyals** » 27 Jul 2002, 09:43

I didn't use alovolt.exe i used elma.exe!

MJXII · Post by **MJXII** » 27 Jul 2002, 23:34

Wow Hib you're the greatest (now it works in w98)

I'm still using ctrl to turn and space for alovolt

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 28 Jul 2002, 06:29

i want to complain hibernaut : i such at using alovolt key

~

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 28 Jul 2002, 11:07

i suck too
i pressed those keys just in time, now i don't

dz · Post by dz » 29 Jul 2002, 20:35

delay can be calculated ?
alo key is to far from finger ?
what's for dinner mom ?
-spaghetti sweetie

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 30 Jul 2002, 01:48

delay is delay, dz is an acrobat with sense of nanoseconds, what u tork!

Post by **SveinR** » 31 Jul 2002, 21:20

Abula wrote:There will come a newer and updated version of this patch which I'll upload to Moposite with a full explanation. So download now only for testing.

Hib: is randomizer really needed (I think it's very useless) if it's about the size of exe. Where are the "Help" and "Demo"? Without those it won't be an official upgrade :/.

You haven't done this yet, but is it 100% legal to use anyway?

DYW265 · Post by **DYW265** » 31 Jul 2002, 21:26

i miss the randomizer. if you eat or drink something and canÂ´t play itÂ´s great to just start the randomizer and relax a bit. itÂ´s like a movie you donÂ´t have to do anything just enjoy

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 31 Jul 2002, 21:49

yeah, i like randomizer because when i drank too much (now too) i like watching replays

Post by **SveinR** » 31 Jul 2002, 23:05

Well you can still use it on the old elma.exe, no?

If you didn't screw up and deleted it

Post by **Abula** » 1 Aug 2002, 03:46

SveinR wrote:If you didn't screw up and deleted it 8O

No problem this either because you can always download the elma.exe again of all patches (1.0, 1.1, 1.11, 1.11a and 1.11h).

jcl · Post by **jcl** » 1 Aug 2002, 09:53

How about a pause function implemented in the patch? It's annoying to use softice when I have a phone etc. and I don't want to screw my good run...

Post by **SveinR** » 1 Aug 2002, 14:17

Now that would be cheating

dz · Post by dz » 1 Aug 2002, 16:12

agreed

Toaster · Post by **Toaster** » 1 Aug 2002, 18:51

Then you can press pause, and look at a map or somthing... or maybe it's not cheating, i dont know...

Toaster · Post by **Toaster** » 1 Aug 2002, 19:20

Hib.. can you make a multiflower level with only 10 flowers? just so i can put other objects on the lev...

(or can you change the object maximun to 100 ? (or somthing))

can you put the replay name on the display when watching replays. (If the replay is on random, you don't know who is driving...)

jcl · Post by **jcl** » 1 Aug 2002, 22:21

As I said, it is already possible to pause elma by SoftIce or a similar program. I just want that everyone have this possibility... I am using SoftIce to pause elma for more than a year now and never thought it as an opportunity to cheat. Just there are times, when you want to pause, not necessarily when you drive good, but when you play a huge lev and don't want to start over...

Post by **SveinR** » 1 Aug 2002, 23:12

I would consider pausing a huge Cheat, with a capital C.

Mick · Post by **Mick** » 1 Aug 2002, 23:13

i would even put in a capital H, E, A and T. big ass chetz0ar

Toaster · Post by **Toaster** » 2 Aug 2002, 03:52

Then... pause in elma is not cheating... if everyone..can doo it....

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 2 Aug 2002, 09:38

what's so huge about it? i like new features

MJXII · Post by **MJXII** » 2 Aug 2002, 12:21

Pausing will take the thrill of it out a bit i think... the point is, you're 2 minutes through laby pro, you've been going so fast and you're sweating like hell, and you have to keep going... ohh, the adrenaline! A pause option is a terrible idea.

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 2 Aug 2002, 16:38

i dont see a pause function as an advantage if u play normally, basically it can save u when u r disturbed from real life happenings. mobile phone games have pause, and when i play snake it's usually hard to get into the rythm when i resume, but bla blabl u get the deal or whatever fuck your mama

MJXII · Post by **MJXII** » 2 Aug 2002, 21:09

If you introduce a pause function it makes it easier for people to create a "save game" thing, if you know what i mean. people will find a way to make the computer remember the position... i reckon.

jcl · Post by **jcl** » 4 Aug 2002, 15:48

It's already possible to save your games with right software. I don't think a pause function helps someone any more, coz usually you have to freeze the application to save anything.

ps.: I never tried to save game, just think it's possible

dz · Post by dz » 24 Aug 2002, 13:29

what are the limits of making a new patch ?

i mean, if we look at the topic "elma 2 wishlist", theres "some" things that could be useful

Hibernatus · Post by **Hibernatus** » 24 Aug 2002, 18:41

New version available.
2 keys for braking (ask Karlis why)
1 alias for Esc

http://membres.lycos.fr/realathlon/pv/elma111h.zip

Ideas i got/heard about:
- Speedometer: Very good idea. Maybe it's impossible, maybe it's easy (depends on how the time display was programmed).
- Auto-save best rec: Possible, but not a priority.
- Pause: I think it's a cheat.
- Filtered replay list for each lev (play a replay from the menu where you choose "Play again", "Replay", etc.): Possible, but requires too much space in the exe file.
- Left alovolt: Would be fun, but i'm afraid WR updaters wouldn't see it every time they check a rec, so i won't make it because it could become a cheat. Anyway, it may be a hard patch to make.

You have to know two things:
- I don't know enough about exe files to expand them. And since elma1.11h is almost full (backward replay takes a lot), any of those features would need a new exe or removing another function.
- I don't play elma and i don't have much spare time. So, because of a lack of motivation, don't expect me to work on a new patch soon.

If someone has the skills and the time to make a new patch or improve mine, feel free to contact me and i'll help you.

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 24 Aug 2002, 19:12

how about making folders possible for the levs? think it's better and easier than viewing recs for a lev

dz · Post by dz » 24 Aug 2002, 19:47

yay so its the size of exe file, which means not many more features coming

after quick test it works, though i would like to have faster backward replay, since backwarding is almost any time just a mean to look something again, and u want to get to it as quickly as possible

Unofficial patch 1.11h

Unofficial patch 1.11h

hi

Thats right it's cheating.. or...

Hmm...can you ???

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hmm...

Elma 1.11h Karlis edition