We DON'T want a new version of Elma!!

dz · Post by dz » 22 Dec 2004, 17:06

easy for you to say when you haven't played like five years

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 22 Dec 2004, 17:11

people play some sports their whole lives and don't get bored.

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 22 Dec 2004, 17:12

sierra wrote:people play some sports their whole lives and don't get bored.

Ye but this is elma, and here the limit is reached much easier.

Lostsoul · Post by **Lostsoul** » 22 Dec 2004, 18:04

sierra wrote:We still don't need a new version ^_^

You're still saying "we"...

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 23 Dec 2004, 15:12

sierra wrote:We still don't need a new version ^_^

oh yes we do

Crypt · Post by **Crypt** » 5 Jan 2005, 21:03

Umm if you dont like Elma 2 you can still play the original so it doesnt really matter... there will still probably be Elma 1 stuff happening.

Post by **SveinR** » 5 Jan 2005, 23:17

Crypt wrote:Umm if you dont like Elma 2 you can still play the original so it doesnt really matter... there will still probably be Elma 1 stuff happening.

Cause there are SO many Across things happening now isn't there?

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 6 Jan 2005, 01:34

We kinda have an OTHER version of elma now btw.

Wezz · Post by **Wezz** » 6 Jan 2005, 13:56

I dont think, that a Elma 2 would change the game completely, i think that the ones who were great to Elma and Across, still will be greatest to the new one...

But on the other side...It would be nice if it happened that the game was much different, so the new players had a change to play it from the start and get as good as the old ones

But that wont happen, and i dont want a Elma 2!

chux · Post by **chux** » 8 Jan 2005, 16:05

Just think of the differences between Elma 1.0 and 1.2...sach teh difference, not many people complained there. Elma 2 wouldnt be another huge step, but will be noticeable, of course. If we're (Hib

) going to be changing it anyway then why not get official?
I whane see new elma. When I get it I'll be this:

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 8 Jan 2005, 17:21

sure i nat care if it's just some kleine upgrade like Hibs ones. i mean if it's the same sort of change that across was to elma. not because i don't think i could do okay in it, it's a purely sentimental thing; i just like this version.

it's like going up to a guy who has a wife who he loves, and saying "i am going to get you a new wife with bigger tits". sure, the new one might actually be technically better, but because he loves his current wife of course he will say no.

kinghias · Post by **kinghias** » 8 Jan 2005, 17:53

if the guy had his wife for several years it might actually be possible he wants the new girl, at least this what often happens in reality...

i want the new version too despite i like elma as it is

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 8 Jan 2005, 21:21

sierra wrote:sure i nat care if it's just some kleine upgrade like Hibs ones. i mean if it's the same sort of change that across was to elma. not because i don't think i could do okay in it, it's a purely sentimental thing; i just like this version.

it's like going up to a guy who has a wife who he loves, and saying "i am going to get you a new wife with bigger tits". sure, the new one might actually be technically better, but because he loves his current wife of course he will say no.

No actuly it would be more likely to compare this with a boob job, and he isnt forcing this on you just offering.

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 9 Jan 2005, 03:43

do you think guys like Stikkybear and sventurbo felt elma 1 was just 'offered'. nat. when elma 2 comes, Elma 1 dies. there is no question about it.

ELMA PRO · Post by **ELMA PRO** » 9 Jan 2005, 06:41

well hopefully you dont play elma 2 sierra, so we will never have to hear your whining again

veezay · Post by **veezay** » 9 Jan 2005, 07:09

I'm with Abula & SveinR & whoever had similar thoughts. Physics/gameplay unchanged, more stats (a death map would be coal, you could zoom through any level to see the spots where you have died), new internals (among the old ones, both being in their own levpacks) and similar options like there are in 1.2, centered camera, resolutions, VCR-stylish replay viewing. That would truly rok.

Thou I'm not sure whether new internals would breathe any life to the game, old internals are _teh thing_ in any case and nathing's gonna change it. At least if they'd be similar to those added in Elma. They just wouldn't have the right feeling. Or dunno. Maybe teh old ones are already sach hÃ¶yled to teh max noone gives a shit nor bothers to try to improve.

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 9 Jan 2005, 13:19

ELMA PRO wrote:well hopefully you dont play elma 2 sierra, so we will never have to hear your whining again

lol shatefak already. i killed you in that other topic, i don't get it, you keep coming back for more? get off my dick ffs

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 9 Jan 2005, 13:47

sierra wrote:
ELMA PRO wrote:well hopefully you dont play elma 2 sierra, so we will never have to hear your whining again
lol shatefak already. i killed you in that other topic, i don't get it, you keep coming back for more? get off my dick ffs

Well at least now everyone else is on his side, so shatefaq!

Crypt · Post by **Crypt** » 3 Feb 2005, 04:42

Your right, people will start getting bored of Elma and will want something new. If there isnt a new version then there might be no scene.

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 3 Feb 2005, 10:07

That would be a fair conclusion if the elma scene was fading away. Unfortunately for the sake of your argument, the elma scene has never been growing faster than right now. Maybe when it begins to get smaller and quieter then your theory will become more applicable.

dz · Post by dz » 3 Feb 2005, 14:15

Crypt wrote:Your right, people will start getting bored of Elma and will want something new. If there isnt a new version then there might be no scene.

The problem against your theory is that the gameplay is very close to perfect. There isn't need for anything new to the gameplay. I would like to see new internals and alot more features in the options, replays and so on. They are the main thing to be improved. I want a new version with improvements on these factors.

Crypt · Post by **Crypt** » 6 Feb 2005, 02:42

Yes so do I, I dont want anything really changed gameplay wise, just other stuff like I want to be able to play against ghost rides. I think one things for externals could be bananas and stuff tho which would be one thing for gameplay.

Ruvio · Post by **Ruvio** » 15 Feb 2005, 05:07

I agree with dz

Rasken · Post by **Rasken** » 15 Feb 2005, 16:38

I agree with dz too

dudek · Post by **dudek** » 19 Apr 2005, 00:46

I think that current Elma doesn't deserve to be quitted by teh kuskis. And that's what would happen after releasing teh some new version imo.

Crypt · Post by **Crypt** » 19 Apr 2005, 01:22

WE DO WANT ELMA 2, SO ALL SHATEFAK

dudek · Post by **dudek** » 19 Apr 2005, 03:11

Maybe you should get calm at first, before you write a comment, shouldn't you?

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 19 Apr 2005, 03:41

dz wrote:
Crypt wrote:Your right, people will start getting bored of Elma and will want something new. If there isnt a new version then there might be no scene.
The problem against your theory is that the gameplay is very close to perfect. There isn't need for anything new to the gameplay. I would like to see new internals and alot more features in the options, replays and so on. They are the main thing to be improved. I want a new version with improvements on these factors.

Yes quite agreeable, almost like another 1.xx version rather than a 2.0

a new game altogether WOULD ruin the scene as we know it, just look at how many acrossing legends have quit, only a really small number survived the transition

Crypt · Post by **Crypt** » 19 Apr 2005, 03:52

I like seeing new people

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 19 Apr 2005, 05:58

I don't on some occassions. . .

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 19 Apr 2005, 19:00

I don't really know why you all complain about an Elma 2...

I don't see anyone who was angry at Halo 2 ?!

Post by **SveinR** » 19 Apr 2005, 19:32

The_BoneLESS wrote:I don't see anyone who was angry at Halo 2 ?!

Hm, well, that's quite a bad comparison as Halo is a game that can actually be finished.

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 19 Apr 2005, 19:35

I guess you mean this : Make an Elma 2 with a story mode !

twipley · Post by **twipley** » 19 Apr 2005, 22:01

Cool

In Halo 1 (I played a few times back then) I used to kill only with grenades, but after Halo 2 came out the dual-guns function ruined my play...

That's maybe that I learned to bounce in Elma, lol. I also tried of getting the higher death-mark, it's kinda hard you know when someone is shooting you and you have to hide and to throw some well calculated explosion-position grenades. ouch.

Post by **SveinR** » 19 Apr 2005, 22:23

Jeu, maybe. But don't proceed a further Halo discussion, please

CMc · Post by **CMc** » 19 Apr 2005, 22:25

I just hope that the new Elma will have limited graphics just like this one. Otherwise we won't be open to using our imagination and creativity. Just look what we did with the very few pictures we have. We made Sky pic into water for example. Imagination and creativity is what makes Elma so great and seperates noobs from very experienced level designers.

twipley · Post by **twipley** » 19 Apr 2005, 23:13

It's bounce-talking...

Whatever you do, please keep the elasticity! This is what makes its charm.

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 20 Apr 2005, 00:31

I think the game should have a story mode based on Rez' cartoon and this way, we might find out how the story ends...

ELMA PRO · Post by **ELMA PRO** » 20 Apr 2005, 01:00

Crypt · Post by **Crypt** » 20 Apr 2005, 01:27

no BoneLESS has good idea, elma pros idea bad

AusDerReihe · Post by **AusDerReihe** » 21 Jun 2005, 01:44

it is quite amusing to read that people don't want a new elma because of THEIR feelings. the fact that the creator sells his game for money, that maybe HE would LIKE to create a new version to earn more money, seems to slip everyones mind.

"hey! ID software, Ubisoft Games, Rockstar Games! don't make sequels! don't think you have the right to do serious work and earn money! think of ME, i might lose some cred in the community!"

people need to understand that software that you have to pay for exist for one reason, and one reason only, to generate income. it is the foundation of bussiness. someone supplies, you pay. the only reason developers listen to users is to keep them using their product, it's called customer loyalty.

i fully respect the level of expertise that the elite elma players represent, but this game is not a result of their expertise, their expertise is a result of this game. stop whining, it only makes you look stupid. 90% of all forums online consist of whining, that is, the forums related to games. what's the average word count on any given post/reply on any given game forum out there? 5? 6?

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 21 Jun 2005, 12:16

congratulations, you just boosted the average by a huge 0,0000000001%
*clap*

but dude has a point there
even though balazs is developing elma 2 in his free time which isn't that much and not working on in as a full time job as the price he sets for elma doesn't give that much income as most of people just warez elma, only the most loyal go and pay him. i'm not loyal, therefore i don't have any influence in the fact that elma could probably be 3d or not come out at all.

Lasall · Post by **Lasall** » 21 Jun 2005, 14:17

AusDerReihe wrote:it is quite amusing to read that people don't want a new elma because of THEIR feelings. the fact that the creator sells his game for money, that maybe HE would LIKE to create a new version to earn more money, seems to slip everyones mind.

"hey! ID software, Ubisoft Games, Rockstar Games! don't make sequels! don't think you have the right to do serious work and earn money! think of ME, i might lose some cred in the community!"

people need to understand that software that you have to pay for exist for one reason, and one reason only, to generate income. it is the foundation of bussiness. someone supplies, you pay. the only reason developers listen to users is to keep them using their product, it's called customer loyalty.

i fully respect the level of expertise that the elite elma players represent, but this game is not a result of their expertise, their expertise is a result of this game. stop whining, it only makes you look stupid. 90% of all forums online consist of whining, that is, the forums related to games. what's the average word count on any given post/reply on any given game forum out there? 5? 6?

It's only a hobby for him. He could work on a opensource project if he wants to as well.

Wezz · Post by **Wezz** » 21 Jun 2005, 15:14

Yes! Besides, ur point would be 100% true if it was any other game you e.g. find in the stores like GTA and so on, but this is way differently; this is a small shareware game, and if you look at interviews with him, he seems to be saying heÂ´s glad some people still play the game, and he is developing a new version, itÂ´s kinda more liek RK said;
itÂ´s a hobby

AusDerReihe · Post by **AusDerReihe** » 21 Jun 2005, 18:08

i know my post doesn't really apply to this game, i was just maing a point. and yes, he probably could work on some open source project, but he doesn't. he is making a game. a low price on elma doesn't necessarily reflect that it is a hobby, it could simply be that he doesn't value his own work very much.

it's sort of clear in that he said he's glad people even still play the game, while we on the other side think it's an amazing game that we play for hours. IF he had the ability to limit piracy and predict elma's success, in my opinion, the game would have cost more.

twipley · Post by **twipley** » 21 Jun 2005, 20:25

In response to kuiva's article on mopolauta, I have thought the following and emailed to Balazs:

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hi, I know this sounds ridiculous, 
but it would be cool if you permit the free distribution of the game, cuz' the way to addict people to this game is by showing them good replays, usually done with the help of the full version, and hence this would give you more cash, I think, please correct me if I'm wrong, or contact me your thoughts!

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I still have some income from the game and the shareware version is there for the purpose of evaluation. Thanks for the suggestion.

Staar · Post by **Staar** » 28 Jan 2006, 15:31

I agree with sierra and Karlis

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 28 Jan 2006, 15:59

ye im not fond of a new version either, i just hope the rumour of elma2 being released 02.02.06 is a lie..

Wezz · Post by **Wezz** » 28 Jan 2006, 18:59

Ez thats nat truu, balazs said in email nat long ago as i said that sometimes he make more, sometimes less, and he wouldnt mention any dates.
To me that doesnt sound like its going to get released about 5 days

John · Post by **John** » 29 Jan 2006, 03:35

how did elma get released? acrossers got any info in advance or it just 'suddenly' came?

We DON'T want a new version of Elma!!

Am I that bizarre...