Balle elma server bug reports

Kale · Post by **Kale** » 10 Jun 2007, 18:05

Please when u make the multiplay mode put it trough ballestart or something; liek u had to choose to start a battle that way.

Also if it is pasibel maybe 2 battles/time would be bettar? For multiplaying and singleplaying, one for each.

Cheers

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 10 Jun 2007, 20:08

2 battles at the same time are useles... it's funnier with more players, so the result will be that when 6 players are online, 3 will play the one lev, and the other 3 the other lev.

more servers do make sense when at least 50 players at the same time!

i would like to have a mode called "bug times allowed" for levls with "collect 18 out of 25" and so on =) can't be that hard to do for mila

Ari · Post by **Ari** » 10 Jun 2007, 20:51

I thought of a new battle mode:

Who has the leading time for longest during the battle. So for example battle length is 10mins, and you have the leading time for 6 mins, then you win. This would make all leading times worth something, and you can't just aim to make the best time on the last minutes. I don't know how well this would work, but it feels like an interesting idea to me. Either along with the winning time competition or on its own. Also possibility to have statistics about that, like "has been leading a battle 60% of the time" or something..

What do other people think about it?

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 10 Jun 2007, 21:04

would be cooler like: battle ends when someone has winning time for 10 mins!

Ari · Post by **Ari** » 10 Jun 2007, 21:18

Lukazz wrote:would be cooler like: battle ends when someone has winning time for 10 mins!

yeah, but maybe for 2 mins or something

that would be cool. have to beat the time quickly or you lose

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 10 Jun 2007, 22:50

milagros wrote:
milagros wrote:1. remove possibility to start qwquu levs
2. 'hide times' checkbox for startballe
3. position in balle in status text
4. ftp to nonblocking http
5. private chat ingame
6. normal multiplaying (also for more than 2 players)
was bored last night when inet crashed so did 2. and 3.

did 1. and 5. (havent test this one cause cant chat with myself)
next version after i do (or fail to do) http download/upload

KD · Post by KD » 10 Jun 2007, 23:04

Ari, Lukazz: great ideas.

I'd like to see veezay's idea, when it's always your last run that counts in the results.

berhabdul · Post by **berhabdul** » 10 Jun 2007, 23:28

we can have milions of battle types!!! that is gonna be great!

DaFred · Post by **DaFred** » 11 Jun 2007, 18:12

mila if you make multiplaying possible is then flagmode possible too?
Would be awesome to play hide and seek for hours

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 11 Jun 2007, 18:19

indeed, or is even flagtag with more than 2 players possible?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 11 Jun 2007, 19:07

flagtag impsy, cant synchronize players, would lag like in eol

Kale · Post by **Kale** » 12 Jun 2007, 01:22

milagros wrote:flagtag impsy, cant synchronize players, would lag like in eol

FAK! @Â½Â§$%â‚¬&

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 12 Jun 2007, 13:10

[13:06] <teh_mila> btw maybe some apple collecting battle might be fun where you have to collect all apples but doesnt have to be in one run
[13:06] <teh_mila> = put apples to some secret area where it is hard to get

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 12 Jun 2007, 19:49

milagros wrote:[13:06] <teh_mila> btw maybe some apple collecting battle might be fun where you have to collect all apples but doesnt have to be in one run
[13:06] <teh_mila> = put apples to some secret area where it is hard to get

Sounds awesome, ez balle in adventure level ^-^

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 12 Jun 2007, 21:47

milagros wrote:[13:06] <teh_mila> btw maybe some apple collecting battle might be fun where you have to collect all apples but doesnt have to be in one run
[13:06] <teh_mila> = put apples to some secret area where it is hard to get

But how do you finish then?

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 12 Jun 2007, 21:57

zworqy wrote:
milagros wrote:[13:06] <teh_mila> btw maybe some apple collecting battle might be fun where you have to collect all apples but doesnt have to be in one run
[13:06] <teh_mila> = put apples to some secret area where it is hard to get
But how do you finish then?

Probably when you've gotten all the hidden apples you touch the flower, which is also hidden? :O

Lee · Post by **Lee** » 13 Jun 2007, 08:38

my belma randomly stopped working. what do i do when i get 'SetDisplayMode (setresdd) did not succeed!' in error.txt?

edit: ok, randomly works again now

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 13 Jun 2007, 10:37

u har bad resolution :/

Kale · Post by **Kale** » 13 Jun 2007, 10:42

milagros wrote:[13:06] <teh_mila> btw maybe some apple collecting battle might be fun where you have to collect all apples but doesnt have to be in one run
[13:06] <teh_mila> = put apples to some secret area where it is hard to get

Sounds really coal, like we used to have those 'battles' in bs9 where were many many hard secret areas and everyone tried to get them all

sounds very interesting.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 15 Jun 2007, 13:14

zworqy wrote:
milagros wrote:[13:06] <teh_mila> btw maybe some apple collecting battle might be fun where you have to collect all apples but doesnt have to be in one run
[13:06] <teh_mila> = put apples to some secret area where it is hard to get
But how do you finish then?

by taking last apple

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 15 Jun 2007, 13:17

things for next version (which are not done yet) :
1. fix bug with clearing top10 - no idea why it doesnt clear sometimes
2. if you finish and die at the same moment, time should be taken (if it's not 1st frame) - very unprobable situation but already happened once
3. i will prolly add bugtimes accepted checkbox
4. link to lev/rec in irc
5. http stuff instead of ftp
6. add flag for starting balles for users which will be default off for new registered users

some other version
1. apple collecting balle
2. multiplaying

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 15 Jun 2007, 13:19

Kale wrote:
milagros wrote:[13:06] <teh_mila> btw maybe some apple collecting battle might be fun where you have to collect all apples but doesnt have to be in one run
[13:06] <teh_mila> = put apples to some secret area where it is hard to get
Sounds really coal, like we used to have those 'battles' in bs9 where were many many hard secret areas and everyone tried to get them all sounds very interesting.

the onyl problem is that rec will prolly not be saved/uploaded, cause there can be more

DaFred · Post by **DaFred** » 18 Jun 2007, 16:01

Dunno if this ez to do or useful but I would like it to see the time in elma

Maybe if you press "C" for Clock there will be shown the time under the lvlrecord or the elmatimer. Or maybe in the middle.
I would like it but maybe others not or it is to hard to do.. no problem

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 18 Jun 2007, 16:08

DaFred wrote:Dunno if this ez to do or useful but I would like it to see the time in elma
Maybe if you press "C" for Clock there will be shown the time under the lvlrecord or the elmatimer. Or maybe in the middle.
I would like it but maybe others not or it is to hard to do.. no problem

put a clock on your wall or buy a watch

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 18 Jun 2007, 16:29

an applecounter/timer of other players while spying them.

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 18 Jun 2007, 19:17

A possibility to enter a reason for abort would be good

dz · Post by dz » 19 Jun 2007, 10:15

Guys why are you posting in 'bug reports' thread? It will only make mila's life harder trying to seperate fancy new feature suggestions like "ingame clock" and the actual bug reports, that has to be fixed.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 19 Jun 2007, 11:48

Arr, now you mention it.

I'm sorry, milagros ;(

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 25 Jun 2007, 09:41

I was playing at my parents house again and we have adsl and NAT there. I found out that the connection gets somehow the slower and slower to update things the longer it has been up. I can see others and they are not slowed down or anything, but the battle results and battle status text are getting slower and slower to update.

This means that when the battle ends, it doesn't recognise it, the text '0.00 minutes left' -text just lingers there. It was a problem when I won a battle and I didn't see the 'you won the battle' text at all, so I couldn't upload my rec.

However, I found out a solution. By pressing F12 just before the battle ends, the connection somehow refreshes itself and then i can see the battle texts and all the stuff normally and see when battle ends. So it's not a problem anymore, as long as I remember to press F12. I just have to press it when i'm not riding a good time because I found out that I won't get my time to results if I press F12 while I'm driving (the start and the end are played with different connections).

I don't know if anybody else has the same problem but I think it's the NAT which is causing this. Maybe mila could explain what happens there.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 25 Jun 2007, 13:25

no idea

KD · Post by KD » 25 Jun 2007, 21:25

Routers can slow down when many connections are made, but i guess it is not that case.

Harald Hasch · Post by **Harald Hasch** » 26 Jun 2007, 12:50

i have the same problem

i alwazs thought it was due to lag

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 26 Jun 2007, 14:19

seems like udp is ok but tcp connection sax, no idea where that lag comes from

nick-o-matic · Post by **nick-o-matic** » 27 Jun 2007, 09:36

Sorry if this bug is reported before but I've got some problems with my characters that are made with the shift key in belma chat. For example if I press shift+6 I get "^" though I should get "&" in my keyboard.

skint0r · Post by **skint0r** » 27 Jun 2007, 09:45

Not really a bug per se, Belma just uses US keyboard layout internally.

nick-o-matic · Post by **nick-o-matic** » 27 Jun 2007, 13:39

Those stupid americans isn't it enough that they've those stupid barrels and inches and 110V electricity

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 27 Jun 2007, 13:54

I never got why people should use other than US keyboard, until I found out about the finnish language. However, what's the deal in using other settings for fuckers like > & and @ and $ and < and { and Â½Â¾€Â¼‘?

niN · Post by **niN** » 28 Jun 2007, 20:45

Eye, Is it possible yo fix this router issue? I connect through my moms pc, in other words that pc is the router, so I cant do port forward. Any other ways to soulve this?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 28 Jun 2007, 22:04

if you dont have router, it should work without port forward

niN · Post by **niN** » 29 Jun 2007, 09:37

milagros wrote:if you dont have router, it should work without port forward

Dude, I just said... my moms pc works as a router for me...

DaFred · Post by **DaFred** » 29 Jun 2007, 10:18

So play on your moms pc

niN · Post by **niN** » 29 Jun 2007, 11:54

DaFred wrote:So play on your moms pc

no thank you

isn't there any way?

KD · Post by KD » 29 Jun 2007, 12:19

If it works as a router you can also set portforwarding on it.

dz · Post by dz » 29 Jun 2007, 13:52

KD wrote:If it works as a router you can also set portforwarding on it.

Yea that's most certainly sure, but that's so oldschool sharing a connection via another computer that I really cannot help you with that. I remember some stuff from win98.

niN · Post by **niN** » 29 Jun 2007, 14:30

KD wrote:If it works as a router you can also set portforwarding on it.

explain please, Dont you need a router brand in able to portforward it?

dz · Post by dz » 29 Jun 2007, 14:42

niN wrote:
KD wrote:If it works as a router you can also set portforwarding on it.
explain please, Dont you need a router brand in able to portforward it?

No, that's not the case here necessarily. The belma traffic goes to the computer that is acting as a router. You should setup that computer to forward that traffic (belma ports) to your computer.

niN · Post by **niN** » 29 Jun 2007, 14:48

dz wrote:
niN wrote:
KD wrote:If it works as a router you can also set portforwarding on it.
explain please, Dont you need a router brand in able to portforward it?
No, that's not the case here necessarily. The belma traffic goes to the computer that is acting as a router. You should setup that computer to forward that traffic (belma ports) to your computer.

Oh, okay. I get the problem now. I only need some info of how I could soulve this. Could someone tell me how to forward the bulma ports to my comp? Thanks guys

dz · Post by dz » 29 Jun 2007, 14:55

Well first we should know what kind of setup there is actually.

1. What kind of inet connection you have?
2. Do you have any kind of modem, or other network device, before the connection gets in the computer acting as a router?
3. What operating system and version is there on the computer acting as a router?
4. What is the IP-address of the computer acting as a router? What is the IP-address of your computer?
5. If you possible know, how is the computer acting as a router been set up? Is it normal Windows "Internet Connection Sharing" thing?

niN · Post by **niN** » 30 Jun 2007, 20:44

I've got a question: What are the belma ports? I mean, when I try to port forward I get to this screen where it says I need to write the ports of the TCP and UDP. (picture).

So could anyone help me?

Oh and btw dz I assume you forgot to answer my pm

?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 30 Jun 2007, 20:57

should be enough to forward udp port 4461