Elma Online site: Plans, Ideas, Changes

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 31 Jul 2010, 14:52

i think on the main page, both shirts should appear after multiballe in lastballewinner place

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 31 Jul 2010, 16:30

Pawq wrote:i think on the main page, both shirts should appear after multiballe in lastballewinner place

They do. Maybe one didn't have shirt uploaded if they didn't.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 31 Jul 2010, 16:49

suar, noob me

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 2 Aug 2010, 00:34

hmm i think finish count there
http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=ranking&points=exp
is wrang, most guys >1000 exp

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 2 Aug 2010, 02:50

it said "Ramone & talli qwquu033 00:31,52" on the site in the latest finishes list and it seems to be internal
all other internals seem to be fine

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 2 Aug 2010, 10:37

how are team rankings count? not sum of all team's players' points? :S

edit:
http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=battles&b=271
again a pair is there 2 times, two maxes this time

and as you can see i'm 1st, even 2 times.
but here i'm 2nd -.-
http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=players&k=Pawq
and also i'm 1st there in zapel001.lev, while i was 8th, last. -.-
imo multi results should count in ranking tab in player's pages and in rankings... and i think that those who win multi themselves (like zweq & zweq) should get 2 times more points

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 2 Aug 2010, 12:48

Pawq wrote:how are team rankings count? not sum of all team's players' points? :S

edit:
http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=battles&b=271
again a pair is there 2 times, two maxes this time
and as you can see i'm 1st, even 2 times.
but here i'm 2nd -.-
http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=players&k=Pawq
and also i'm 1st there in zapel001.lev, while i was 8th, last. -.-
imo multi results should count in ranking tab in player's pages and in rankings... and i think that those who win multi themselves (like zweq & zweq) should get 2 times more points

double times is bug on server so nothing I can fix

I don't agree on the rankings thing, the main ranking should only be normal single player battles

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 2 Aug 2010, 12:51

then there should be another multi ranking :>

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 3 Aug 2010, 00:43

will it really be that way? that only normal battles will count for the normal results? =(

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 4 Aug 2010, 01:35

would be cool to have records for crippled with more than one
like this http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=stats ... el&nobrake (not existing link btw

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Madness · Post by **Madness** » 4 Aug 2010, 15:14

It would be awesome if there was a possibility to upload state.dats on teh site somewhere, so it would include all those times into the database.

Or the better even would be to connect this with moposite tables somehow with an automatical upload of state.dats + somehow get current times from moposite into the database... so the eol statistics would be basically complete, and we could view all those times, stats in EOL, without the need of opening any site. o/ Quite science fiction maybe, but that would be perfect... xD

Polarix · Post by **Polarix** » 4 Aug 2010, 15:36

Madness wrote:It would be awesome if there was a possibility to upload state.dats on teh site somewhere, so it would include all those times into the database.

Or the better even would be to connect this with moposite tables somehow with an automatical upload of state.dats + somehow get current times from moposite into the database... so the eol statistics would be basically complete, and we could view all those times, stats in EOL, without the need of opening any site. o/ Quite science fiction maybe, but that would be perfect... xD

+1

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 4 Aug 2010, 16:29

Polarix wrote:
Madness wrote:It would be awesome if there was a possibility to upload state.dats on teh site somewhere, so it would include all those times into the database.

Or the better even would be to connect this with moposite tables somehow with an automatical upload of state.dats + somehow get current times from moposite into the database... so the eol statistics would be basically complete, and we could view all those times, stats in EOL, without the need of opening any site. o/ Quite science fiction maybe, but that would be perfect... xD
+1

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 4 Aug 2010, 16:44

I guess times and statistics on EOL site are only from EOL because of antixiit. If you allow state.dats from some other source, there's a possibility of cheated shiat in EOL statistics.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 4 Aug 2010, 17:02

What lousq says is the main reason we are not doing that.

One thing we could do however, and something that I've thought about for some time, is to make the new records on moposite that combines the old times from moposite, state.dat upload and times from EOL. For example it it updates once a week and copies new times from EOL aswell as adds the times that has been uploaded from state.dats throughout the week.

Once EOL internal page is done (planning some seasonal stuff ect.) it would be max ez to code this, just using the same structure and code.

Polarix · Post by **Polarix** » 4 Aug 2010, 21:10

Can't we just have a person that checks for cheating?

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 4 Aug 2010, 21:30

How to detect cheating in state.dat? :S

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 4 Aug 2010, 21:44

Just don't cheat ? :O
Eventually ez ban xiitors for good.

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 4 Aug 2010, 22:12

like on elastomania.ru, could ask user to upload rec and state.dat, so there would be confirmation of times and suspect times could be watched by mods or only admins. I know it's not everybody that saves his internal records tho. anyway, i think stats.elastomania.ru was fine too and as moposite records, could ask rec if suspect time

trew · Post by **trew** » 5 Aug 2010, 11:12

Mawane wrote:like on elastomania.ru, could ask user to upload rec and state.dat, so there would be confirmation of times and suspect times could be watched by mods or only admins. I know it's not everybody that saves his internal records tho. anyway, i think stats.elastomania.ru was fine too and as moposite records, could ask rec if suspect time

Agree.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 5 Aug 2010, 12:10

agree too, and i think that wrs should be there

no way to xiit there

and then some kinda announcement when a wr is beaten :> (both single and multi)

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 5 Aug 2010, 23:54

Watching replays online is a very cool feature, but doesn't work with multi recs. I guess you knew this already..?

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 6 Aug 2010, 00:06

LousQ wrote:Watching replays online is a very cool feature, but doesn't work with multi recs. I guess you knew this already..?

i asked coco to work on it and he answered me:

Coco wrote:salut, je regarderai ça fin août... je suis en vacances pour le moment et mes sources sont à mon boulot

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 6 Aug 2010, 00:10

elma community is french obv

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 6 Aug 2010, 01:40

I think there's a greeting in there. Also talking about the source and some moment.

I'm pretty good at French!

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 6 Aug 2010, 04:23

Coco wrote:salut, je regarderai ça fin août... je suis en vacances pour le moment et mes sources sont à mon boulot

translation: "Hey, i'll take a look in late August... i'm on vacation for now and the source files are at my workplace (job)."

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 6 Aug 2010, 17:56

coco having boring job?

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 6 Aug 2010, 18:58

fixed the problem with positions on personal page

positions graph working now aswell

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 6 Aug 2010, 22:42

Not sure if this is a bug but when you Select Randomize Theme the page gets refreshed twice so there are two theme changes when you click Select.

edit:
Maybe make it possible to add info on teams? or have some stats?

Looks kinda dead here: http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=players&t=NK

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 6 Aug 2010, 22:42

I think everything with wins and rankings is fixed now. That means no known bugs for now :)

I don't see anything wrong with randomize theme, works fine for me and no double refresh.

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 6 Aug 2010, 22:45

only double refresh when i click the select button.. dunno why.. using FireFox 3.6.8

edit: wtf.. sometimes double sometimes single refresh

lol

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 6 Aug 2010, 22:47

Are there no stats on multibattles? like best pairs and multiwins?

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 6 Aug 2010, 22:57

unfortunately no

Kopaka wrote:Plans
Make sure all themes have all needed stuff
Make sure times are shown and hidden as should be
Make sure levs can be downloaded or not as should be

i think these could be considered as bugs for now

and maps of some levs are still wrong, like this
http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=battles&b=222

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 8 Aug 2010, 13:30

Someone could finish all ints so I know if TTs work, there's also combined multi tt now, so some multitimes would be good aswell.

trew · Post by **trew** » 8 Aug 2010, 17:41

Kopaka wrote:Someone could finish all ints so I know if TTs work

someone should start 24h tt battle then

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 8 Aug 2010, 21:31

There's a bug on the site. There is currently a battle goign on with Hidden Times mode but you can see the times online. http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=battles&b=514

another bug? I've tried to watch several replays online.. they all see to work but this one didn't. http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=replayonline&b=514

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 8 Aug 2010, 23:10

thats because he played the level before it starts, so its uploaded

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 9 Aug 2010, 08:43

Phlaim wrote:
Kopaka wrote:Someone could finish all ints so I know if TTs work
someone should start 24h tt battle then

24htts are not battles, they are started individual for each a player

times thing I know about, you can see them other places too, it's on the list

try the watch online again now, does it do the same? worked for me right now, there might be some fuckup when more ppl watch at same time, I'll fix that later

trew · Post by **trew** » 9 Aug 2010, 11:14

Kopaka wrote:
Phlaim wrote:
Kopaka wrote:Someone could finish all ints so I know if TTs work
someone should start 24h tt battle then
24htts are not battles, they are started individual for each a player

so if I finish all levs in 24h I will get a 24h tt?

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 9 Aug 2010, 12:27

Phlaim wrote:
Kopaka wrote:
Phlaim wrote:
Kopaka wrote:Someone could finish all ints so I know if TTs work
someone should start 24h tt battle then
24htts are not battles, they are started individual for each a player
so if I finish all levs in 24h I will get a 24h tt?

No, you ask someone who have 24htt rights to start one for you, and then you see info about it under battle line.

Tigro · Post by **Tigro** » 9 Aug 2010, 14:57

What the HECK?
pls do something with this...

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 9 Aug 2010, 15:24

Not a bug, Tigro. All battles count in your best row, but only normal battles count in your number of wins. It is kinda confusing.

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 9 Aug 2010, 16:11

Yes it is. How does it come that special battles count into the Best Battle Winning Row ?
Special battles are mostly for fun, not requiring any skillz or inventing any styles, so either don't count them anywhere on teh site or just eliminate them for good.

Lee · Post by **Lee** » 10 Aug 2010, 07:56

Atleast change '1 WINS' to '1 WIN'

Polarix · Post by **Polarix** » 10 Aug 2010, 17:32

I haven't orkad to research, how is point-calculations done with special balles like FT?

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 10 Aug 2010, 20:23

Polarix wrote:I haven't orkad to research, how is point-calculations done with special balles like FT?

Same way as others

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 11 Aug 2010, 13:50

Some statistics of who has spent in EOL the most of time all together would be interesting.

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 11 Aug 2010, 21:54

http://elmaonline.moposite.com/?s=battles&b=618

Look comments.. i tested maximum lenght of comment and this is how it looks like on my comp. Firefox 3.6.8

niN · Post by **niN** » 11 Aug 2010, 21:56

because you didn't have a space there. I don't think it's design fail, but maybe kopa should not allow such long words in there

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 11 Aug 2010, 21:57

ah ok makes sense.. let me try with normal words

edit: still bug