Vsync control on next version?

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Vsync control on next version?

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Hey, I was just thinking that could you guys make some thing that you can turn vsync on/off ingame. It seems like that if you have vista you cannot turn vsync off unless game has option to do that. That would pretty much help all vista users and other guys who cant turn vsync off.
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mila surely would have skills to do it if he studied about it, but rather: don't use vista
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it's relatively pointless to add this, as Vsync doesn't take effect until you restart the program.
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SmaXa wrote:Vsync doesn't take effect until you restart the program.
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SmaXa wrote:it's relatively pointless to add this, as Vsync doesn't take effect until you restart the program.
he just said it doesn't work on vista at all?
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Zweq wrote:
SmaXa wrote:it's relatively pointless to add this, as Vsync doesn't take effect until you restart the program.
he just said it doesn't work on vista at all?
Vsync on Vista is supposed to be switched by prog, not by driver.
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Ves wrote:
Zweq wrote:
SmaXa wrote:it's relatively pointless to add this, as Vsync doesn't take effect until you restart the program.
he just said it doesn't work on vista at all?
Vsync on Vista is supposed to be switched by prog, not by driver.
what prog would u recommend?
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Pawq wrote:what prog would u recommend?
The game itself I mean. RivaTuner and aTuner just change driver options, but on Vista driver options cannot affect on vsync.
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I concur! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make this! I will be SO SO SO happy!
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And would it be fair? I've always thought that many would consider this a cheat. And i kinda agree, because you get adjustable physics, which is quite impsy to get without that kind of patch. And maybe it will be just another step to getting a game, which allows things that were impossible in original elma.
p.s. btw it's megaeasy to code, according to one guy i know.
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imo changing vsync in-game is one of these things not to be implemented.
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wait... weren't we talking about changing fps in the middle of a run, or was that just me?
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hexeditor wrote:wait... weren't we talking about changing fps in the middle of a run, or was that just me?
nobody was talking about that, everyone just about in-game changing vsync so vista users could play with vsync off, which, atm, is pretty hard :evil:
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Would be nice, since currently I've got to play Uphill Battle on my other computer with elma 1.0 and merge states after.
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Bis why not just move the stats from belma folder, then move back? 8O
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hello mr and mrs stupid, we are not talking about changing vsync in-in-game. just changing it in belmaconf or in some menu inside elma, so that it's posible to play with vsync off on vista.
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actually if you were on topic, you SHOULD be talking about vsync control In-game.
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try reading the first post again smaxa geez...
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p00 wrote:Hey, I was just thinking that could you guys make some thing that you can turn vsync on/off ingame.
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SmaXa wrote:
p00 wrote:Hey, I was just thinking that could you guys make some thing that you can turn vsync on/off ingame.
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try reading the next sentence

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p00 wrote:It seems like that if you have vista you cannot turn vsync off unless game has option to do that.
...? This is kinda irrelevant to the alternate points you and i made?
J-sim wrote:hello mr and mrs stupid, we are not talking about changing vsync in-in-game. just changing it in belmaconf or in some menu inside elma, so that it's posible to play with vsync off on vista.
SmaXa wrote:actually if you were on topic, you SHOULD be talking about vsync control In-game.
i agree it was relevant to the discussion that was happening, but that discussion was off-topic.
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smaxa... the deal is that microsoft made an error in vista so you can't change vsync off from your display driver but only inside applications. a fix for this is what p00 is addressing in his first post. an option to force a vsync change inside of elma, so that people with vista can get the benefit of using vsync off. any talk about real-time vsync changing in-game is what is "off-topic". do you get it now? i don't think i can explain it much better.
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It Doesn't really matter, and this is my last post on this matter, but J-Sim, the topic was not "Can we have V-sync control in Belma folder somewhere?" it was "can we have V-sync control in-game?"

anything about Vista was completely Irrelevant.
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you are funny smaxa :beer:
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